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[enormousmoonboots]

Another thing to take into account is that biotics eat two to three times more food than the average person. Kaidan and any other human biotic on the ship is probably going to meet with some kind of 'accident', no matter how hard they try to enforce discipline.

And Joker will never be allowed into the gene pool because of his Vrolik's Syndrome.

[DXLelouch15]

and im sure Javik will bust out a jetpack out of nowhere and be like **** this im outta here

[casedawgz]

How do we know the planet they crash on has food that HUMANS can eat? Maybe its a perfect candidate for turian/quarian colonization and all the humans will starve to death.

[enormousmoonboots]

The fact that the ending video has a human with a human child implies we're in levo-country, baby.

It also implies discipline is breaking down if they can't actually remember your name correctly any more.

[Stokie Stallion]

What the ending doesnt tell you in a yagh planet and a future dlc will have you playing an alamo type defense mission where you last has long has possible untill you all fall. leaderboard included

[Chuvvy]

DXLelouch15 wrote...

and im sure Javik will bust out a jetpack out of nowhere and be like **** this im outta here

Christ, I completely forgot the only Prothean was on the Normandy, so now he's stuck in the middle of no where. What a waste.

[Blacklash93]

Guldhun2 wrote...

Ah, the politically correct wonder train has arrived. All aboard!

Ah, looks like the anti-correctness police have arrived, too. Hide your logic and facts!

Seriously, unless this planet contains both types of food (which is highly unlikely), Tali and Garrus are screwed. Also, sex isn't mandatory for reproduction in humans. Artificial insemenation doesn't take Mass Effect Fields if they need the genetic diversity. The sad part is that Steve and Sam are most likely Forever Alone.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 01 mars 2012 - 08:43 .

[WeWant]

How my Shepard will feel when eating Garrus.

[Dark Specie]

Slidell505 wrote...
Christ, I completely forgot the only Prothean was on the Normandy, so now he's stuck in the middle of no where. What a waste.

How very true. No peaceful retirement to the Hanar homeworld for you, Javik! But at least, he and Liara'll have plenty of time to work on that book...

[Confused-Shepard]

What about Wrex and the squadmates from Mass Effect 2? They shouldn't be on the Normandy
If it's only Liara, Vega, Ashley/Kaidan and the Alliance crew then .... HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Feel bad for Chakwas, Joker and EDI though.

[AdrynBliss]

Sweet jiminy cricket... People are saying this is bad that is bad, this is just horrible and so on. Ya know what? that's the POINT! you are SUPPOSED to feel the way you do about their situation.
The fact that dextros will most likely starve to death is horrifying and its supposed to be, the fact the gay crew mates may have no choice but to mate against their will is terrible and it's meant to be. These are horrifying realities of the situation.
You wanted shep to live? well be careful what you wish for kids because you got your wish.
Your gut twists up at the thought of the ending? after all they've been through this is their reward? you are ment to feel they way you do about it.
Think about it, this video game, this peice of fiction is what is producing that visceral response.

Would I of liked an ending where everyone lives happily ever after? you bet but do I understand the freaking genius behind this ending? yes indeed I do. I apologize if this offends but you don't have to 'like' the ending, but if you can't accept it then you just don't 'get it'.

[Whatever42]

AdrynBliss wrote...

Sweet jiminy cricket... People are saying this is bad that is bad, this is just horrible and so on. Ya know what? that's the POINT! you are SUPPOSED to feel the way you do about their situation.
The fact that dextros will most likely starve to death is horrifying and its supposed to be, the fact the gay crew mates may have no choice but to mate against their will is terrible and it's meant to be. These are horrifying realities of the situation.
You wanted shep to live? well be careful what you wish for kids because you got your wish.
Your gut twists up at the thought of the ending? after all they've been through this is their reward? you are ment to feel they way you do about it.
Think about it, this video game, this peice of fiction is what is producing that visceral response.

Would I of liked an ending where everyone lives happily ever after? you bet but do I understand the freaking genius behind this ending? yes indeed I do. I apologize if this offends but you don't have to 'like' the ending, but if you can't accept it then you just don't 'get it'.

Exactly. We should have harsh endings. All of these are totally unrealistic. We should only have 3 endings, where the Reapers destroy all life. However, you get to choose how all life dies. You can nuke the planets yourself, sparing people the horror. You can throw your own life away in a futile attack against the Reapers. Or you can join with the Reapers and horribly transform people into husks.

[Darth Malice113]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

AdrynBliss wrote...

Sweet jiminy cricket... People are saying this is bad that is bad, this is just horrible and so on. Ya know what? that's the POINT! you are SUPPOSED to feel the way you do about their situation.
The fact that dextros will most likely starve to death is horrifying and its supposed to be, the fact the gay crew mates may have no choice but to mate against their will is terrible and it's meant to be. These are horrifying realities of the situation.
You wanted shep to live? well be careful what you wish for kids because you got your wish.
Your gut twists up at the thought of the ending? after all they've been through this is their reward? you are ment to feel they way you do about it.
Think about it, this video game, this peice of fiction is what is producing that visceral response.

Would I of liked an ending where everyone lives happily ever after? you bet but do I understand the freaking genius behind this ending? yes indeed I do. I apologize if this offends but you don't have to 'like' the ending, but if you can't accept it then you just don't 'get it'.

Exactly. We should have harsh endings. All of these are totally unrealistic. We should only have 3 endings, where the Reapers destroy all life. However, you get to choose how all life dies. You can nuke the planets yourself, sparing people the horror. You can throw your own life away in a futile attack against the Reapers. Or you can join with the Reapers and horribly transform people into husks.

^^This.
 
Why you ask. Because it actually makes sense.

[enormousmoonboots]

AdrynBliss wrote...

Sweet jiminy cricket... People are saying this is bad that is bad, this is just horrible and so on. Ya know what? that's the POINT! you are SUPPOSED to feel the way you do about their situation.
The fact that dextros will most likely starve to death is horrifying and its supposed to be, the fact the gay crew mates may have no choice but to mate against their will is terrible and it's meant to be. These are horrifying realities of the situation.
You wanted shep to live? well be careful what you wish for kids because you got your wish.

First off, Shep living has nothing to do with this happening. They are independent events.

Your gut twists up at the thought of the ending? after all they've been through this is their reward? you are ment to feel they way you do about it.
Think about it, this video game, this peice of fiction is what is producing that visceral response.

Bro, this visceral reaction is disappointment and shame. Lots of fiction produces that reaction in me. For example, Twilight.

Would I of liked an ending where everyone lives happily ever after? you bet but do I understand the freaking genius behind this ending? yes indeed I do. I apologize if this offends but you don't have to 'like' the ending, but if you can't accept it then you just don't 'get it'.

The 'genuis' of this ending is that your choices don't matter in the slightest. The 'genuis' of this ending is that literally everyone you give a **** about will be either dead or living in a horrible Lord of the Flies situation. It's not 'deep', it's just awful, not to mention totally unfitting with the rest of the ME universe.

In Mass Effect, you really do have the ability to save everyone. You can try, and be rewarded. You can build the galaxy you want to live in. Optimism and hope are important themes. This is just...lazy. Lame. Childish. Grimdark. 40k is more optimistic than this.

[Xaijin]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

I love this whole "oh noes, they're going to starve to death!" thing everyone's got going.

The new world is symbolic for a new beginning, a clean slate without the Reapers. It's a big, fat metaphor, and assuming everyone is doomed shows a seriously lack of creativity and/or optimism.

I mean, jeez, it's not the crew hasn't been through tougher stuff.

No, they haven't. The only ending that allows survival for all is synthesis. There are limits even to even handwavium.

The best part would the that it's an opposite chirality planet, which means everyone but Tali and Garrus are boned. That's almost dark enough for the rest of the ending.

Modifié par Xaijin, 01 mars 2012 - 09:06 .

[Eradyn]

I feel horrible for the women on board the Normandy, no matter their orientation. Forced to procreate or guilted into it...either way, it's ****ed up.

[Chuvvy]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Guldhun2 wrote...

Ah, the politically correct wonder train has arrived. All aboard!

Ah, looks like the anti-correctness police have arrived, too. Hide your logic and facts!

Seriously, unless this planet contains both types of food (which is highly unlikely), Tali and Garrus are screwed. Also, sex isn't mandatory for reproduction in humans. Artificial insemenation doesn't take Mass Effect Fields if they need the genetic diversity. The sad part is that Steve and Sam are most likely Forever Alone.

You do realise that whether they thumb it in, or use a cup and some jergens, you're getting the same genetic material from the same guy right? There's 50 people, artificial insemenation doesn't mean ****.

[PlumPaul93]

Eradyn wrote...

I feel horrible for the women on board the Normandy, no matter their orientation. Forced to procreate or guilted into it...either way, it's ****ed up.

It's a game bro.

[WeWant]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

In Mass Effect, you really do have the ability to save everyone. You can try, and be rewarded. You can build the galaxy you want to live in. Optimism and hope are important themes. This is just...lazy. Lame. Childish. Grimdark. 40k is more optimistic than this.

Virmire, Rachni, Save the council, Rewrite the geth, keep the base...

Mass Effect is about tough choices.

Cry me a river.

[Blacklash93]

Slidell505 wrote...
You do realise that whether they thumb it in, or use a cup and some jergens, you're getting the same genetic material from the same guy right? There's 50 people, artificial insemenation doesn't mean ****.

I realize that. They're just gonna need to use everyone to hold off from inbreeding for as long as possible.

I know the ending is supposed to be symbolic of a new beginning, but logically this situation is gonna turn out to be pretty ****ed up eventually. This is not how you end a story.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 01 mars 2012 - 09:22 .

[enormousmoonboots]

WeWant wrote...

Virmire, Rachni, Save the council, Rewrite the geth, keep the base...

Mass Effect is about tough choices.

Cry me a river.

Geth don't matter, because they get destroyed. Base doesn't matter, it's only a ten-point difference. Virmire doesn't matter, you can bone either survivor now or just shoot them yourself. In any case, you never see them again. Rachni? Nope, the Reapers went and got themselves a new queen, it doesn't matter if you killed the 'last' one.

[SurelyForth]

WeWant wrote...

Virmire, Rachni, Save the council, Rewrite the geth, keep the base...

Mass Effect is about tough choices.

Cry me a river.

Mass Effect is about  tough choices. And I am completely fine with the tough choices presented by the end of ME3.

However. 

The Normandy always getting stuck on another planet is not anything that we get to choose. There is nothing we, as players, can do to prevent it or change it and no discernible reason why Joker should be that far from Earth that it could happen and that's what pisses people off. It's a ****ty thing to pull, and it's made even ****tier when you follow things to their logical conclusion (no relays + random planet + mutually exclusive dietary needs + small population +implied coloniasation = ) and you realize that, whether they meant to or not, the writers took the fates of some of the most important secondary characters in the franchise and made them pretty ****ing horrible to consider.

So. Yeah. Mass Effect is about tough choices, but outside of not recruiting Team Dextro and the VS, there is nothing of choice anywhere in this ending.

[Dark Specie]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

I feel horrible for the women on board the Normandy, no matter their orientation. Forced to procreate or guilted into it...either way, it's ****ed up.

It's a game bro.

Still not a nice situation if you think about it.

[Eradyn]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

I feel horrible for the women on board the Normandy, no matter their orientation. Forced to procreate or guilted into it...either way, it's ****ed up.

It's a game bro.

Breaking news: the earth is also round.

Might be a game, but doesn't make the implications of such a situation any more palatable. 

[Kaiser Shepard]

They breed or they die, there is no other option.