202 réponses à ce sujet

[Andy379]

Play the way you want. You do not have to play the way you are expected to by a bunch of people on the internet. Who cares how efficient you are if your not having fun? What's the point of anything if your not having fun?

[Pobatti]

 I will typically use a sniper rifle (the Widow) with my Turian Sentinel. This is because Warp and Overload are only (correct me if I'm wrong here) useful against armor and shields, and I've noticed this character has a noticibly more steady aim than the other characters I unlocked.

While I will use a sniper on my Infiltrators, I can really only get headshots if I go invisible, the enemy doesn't move and isn't killed or distracted by another player. With my Turian Sentinel I can pop heads really easy since (for some reason) I find the gun aims almost flawlessly. That means I can get my shots lined up much faster and more accurately with him.

[Tony Gunslinger]

So far I've played with quite a few players with an AR/SR setup out there, and many of them play it like a normal shooter. They're not familiar with powers, they don't use them even if they're available; vanguards don't charge, infiltrators don't cloak, asari adepts don't use stasis. I don't have a problem with that per se, I deal with it by looking at their loadout and make an educated guess as to what kind of players they'll be and I'll switch to a build that compliments them, er, somehow. It ain't the ideal team and we fail often, but sometimes it's kind of interesting to watch. I hope when the game is out, more players will get better acquainted with the guns/powers thing in their SP.

[Arch1eviathan]

I gave my vanguard a sniper. It let's me pick off a few enemies before going in for a charge.

Engineers are also really good with the combat drone/sniper combo.

[xrudix]

Tony Gunslinger wrote...

So far I've played with quite a few players with an AR/SR setup out there, and many of them play it like a normal shooter. They're not familiar with powers, they don't use them even if they're available; vanguards don't charge, infiltrators don't cloak, asari adepts don't use stasis. I don't have a problem with that per se, I deal with it by looking at their loadout and make an educated guess as to what kind of players they'll be and I'll switch to a build that compliments them, er, somehow. It ain't the ideal team and we fail often, but sometimes it's kind of interesting to watch. I hope when the game is out, more players will get better acquainted with the guns/powers thing in their SP.

what is a problem of having ar/sr setup, on my vanguard i have similar setup except ar i use shoty. i use viper/katana and have more than +100% recharge, it is more than enough to fight vs 2-3 phantoms at once on gold and be the winner.

[Tony Gunslinger]

Not a problem at all. My drell vanguard uses the viper while my femguard uses a standard shotty. I have a shotgun infiltrator and a widow/mantis infiltrator. My quarian engineer switches between SR/SG. Still deciding what to do with my Sentinels. My point is, I look at people's loadouts and guess how they'll be playing, instead of making the assumption that an adept will always be a typical adept for instance. I mix a match all the time. However, because there are still plenty of people out there who haven't played much of ME before, you'll see them not using powers liberally, and oftentimes they tend to pack a lot of big guns. So you have two groups of people: those who like to play a certain style and do good, and those who don't. Unless they have a modest N7 ranking, you just don't know which one they'll be. I almost considered deleting the demo and starting all over again just to play with low-ranking players again, but the demo is ending soon anyways.

[eschaeron]

I can see Engineers and Sentinels legitimately using Snipers. On Vanguards or Adepts, it seems counter-productive, and since Soldiers are concussive-shot-spamming-bound...

[S1L0]

STASIS SNIPING > CLOAK SNIPING. END.


Also ... WIDOWGUARD ... Drool.

The WidowGuard is an acquired taste. It takes some practice
to find the proper balance.

Stasis Sniping is just flat out AWESOMENESS.

[redafro]

in the first gold run that i finished the 3 others ( only one infiltrator) had sniper rifels so i guess if they have skill there really is no problem with that

[Indoctrinated Spectre]

There's nothing better than the right build for an Infiltrator to make the best of the widow..Atlas mechs mean nothing to me anymore.

[S1L0]

Indoctrinated Spectre wrote...

There's nothing better than the right build for an Infiltrator to make the best of the widow..Atlas mechs mean nothing to me anymore.

Atlas mechs mean nothing to me either - Rocket Launcher if need be.

Phantoms on the other hand - Better be prepared.
STASIS SNIPING crushes phantoms with ease.  Not the only way, but It works really well.

The WidowGaurd has the option of frequent No-scopes with little risk of death.

Don't get me wrong.  Infiltrator is my Second Character build in SP after Vanguard.
I do enjoy unorthodox play styles though.  Stasis Sniping floored me.
The WidowGuard was a happy accident. 

[Crimzoneyed]

My quarian engineer can snipe... With a mattock with scope and a flamethrower turret she can easy get the highest score, both kill and assist wise

[Zkyire]

S1L0 wrote...

Indoctrinated Spectre wrote...

There's nothing better than the right build for an Infiltrator to make the best of the widow..Atlas mechs mean nothing to me anymore.

Atlas mechs mean nothing to me either - Rocket Launcher if need be.

Phantoms on the other hand - Better be prepared.
STASIS SNIPING crushes phantoms with ease.  Not the only way, but It works really well.

The WidowGaurd has the option of frequent No-scopes with little risk of death.

Don't get me wrong.  Infiltrator is my Second Character build in SP after Vanguard.
I do enjoy unorthodox play styles though.  Stasis Sniping floored me.
The WidowGuard was a happy accident. 

Same.

Vanguard + Widow is so much more effective than I thought it would be.

[Mr_Steph]

redafro wrote...

in the first gold run that i finished the 3 others ( only one infiltrator) had sniper rifels so i guess if they have skill there really is no problem with that

My first gold win was with an Asari Adept sporting a Widow, a Salarian Infiltrator with a Widow, a Human Soldier with a Mantis and me as a Human Engineer with a Phalanx and Tempest. They where deadly!

[tractrpl]

S1L0 wrote...

STASIS SNIPING > CLOAK SNIPING. END.


Also ... WIDOWGUARD ... Drool.

The WidowGuard is an acquired taste. It takes some practice
to find the proper balance.

Stasis Sniping is just flat out AWESOMENESS.

I'm amazed more people don't do this. I totally own with this combo. Only players with a much higher N7 rating typically score above me in matches. Now if I could only get the widow or black widow...

[Dasher1010]

Because the Human and Turian Soldier are good with them. Also, the Drell Adept is squishy.

[fixit6]

Cus majority of guns suck except pistols and sniper rifles.

edit. stasis / head shot combo is for people who can't aim and need a bit of help. Oh snap!

Modifié par fixit6, 09 avril 2012 - 03:47 .

[tractrpl]

fixit6 wrote...

Cus majority of guns suck except pistols and sniper rifles.

edit. stasis / head shot combo is for people who can't aim and need a bit of help. Oh snap!

Dead is dead. In real war, you don't do things the hard way just for bragging rights. I only have an N7 ranking of 23, I only have a Mantis III, not one of those fancy semi-auto sniper rifles like you probably have. If I miss, I have to wait like 10 seconds before I can try again. Even with that handicap, I outscore suckers with N7 rankins of 300 with my asari.

[tractrpl]

I also have crap for weapons still. I finally got a Carnifex, though. Maybe I'll try using it instead of sniping, but I don't know. I feel I still have to hit em about three times, but I can just hit em once with the mantis and on to the next target. Even with the ridiculously slow reload, I have more kills per minute with the mantis, I'd bet, than with the Carnifex.

[Deucetipher]

Depends on the difficulty, but a bronze carni headshot will do the trick. If you're playing above that, you;ll need more than one. Silver and Gold have a "shield gate" that stops most (all on gold) damage from bleeding through the shield post failure; therefore, the extra damage is wasted

As for the no stasis headshotting simply being pointless difficulty, I disagree. Stasis sniping means no tac cloak or bonus sniper damage, which means you suffer against boss targets. It is a question of opportunity cost, o great Necromancer .

The general argument is that a stasis sniper does ok, but pales in effectiveness when compared to a competent infiltrator. In other words, if you have the skill for it, just go infiltrator instead if you want to snipe.

[kww75]

The only class I don't use a sniper rifle on is the vanguard, anyone of them. Reason is simple, the time it takes for me to kill something with an assault rifle, SMG, pistol or shotgun at medium to long range, I would have lined up and kill three similar targets in that time. The number of times I have seen teammates gang up on a non boss lvl mob by the time they have wittled it down to 60% health, I'd taken my sniper rifle shot a mob in the head and then the same mob my teammates were working on..

The only time I start killing things slower is in melee/close range, which is what heavy melee is for.

The bottom line comes down to efficency, if you are accurate with your sniper rifle you are going to be 2-3 times more efficent than anyone else killing at medium to long range. With a Black widow, widow or Javelin rifle, you can easily line up three trash mobs and kill them with one bullet, two is more common but three can be done. I have not personally seen more a four for one kill yet, but believe with these weapons with trash mobs in a straight line it will kill them all.

At melee range a korgan/human vanguard is gonna out perform someone with a rifle. However at harder difficulties, melee range is not the ideal place to be, unless you're in a grabbing spot.

That's not to say other weapons don't have their place, shotguns are great for stunning enemies. assault rifles do this a much lower rate. Pistols and SMGs I've never really fully understood their role except to keep your weight down so you can fire your powers more.

Modifié par kww75, 09 avril 2012 - 04:36 .

[Incendax]

Salarian Engineer can rock +190% Recharge with a Mantis X.
Krogan Soldier can rock +200% Recharge with a Mantis X.

Both are a pretty lethal combination.

Modifié par Incendax, 09 avril 2012 - 04:44 .

[Currylaksa]

Valiant or Black Widow are insanely good on Human Soldier.

Insanely.

[Highlord Heian]

ApplesauceBandit wrote...

Because we can, deal.

And you can, find another lobby.

[ZombiesNBacon]

Because the games been out for a month and noobs still haven't figured out how to play their classes right (or they have but they're too stubborn).