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[tractrpl]

Deucetipher wrote...

Depends on the difficulty, but a bronze carni headshot will do the trick. If you're playing above that, you;ll need more than one. Silver and Gold have a "shield gate" that stops most (all on gold) damage from bleeding through the shield post failure; therefore, the extra damage is wasted

As for the no stasis headshotting simply being pointless difficulty, I disagree. Stasis sniping means no tac cloak or bonus sniper damage, which means you suffer against boss targets. It is a question of opportunity cost, o great Necromancer .

The general argument is that a stasis sniper does ok, but pales in effectiveness when compared to a competent infiltrator. In other words, if you have the skill for it, just go infiltrator instead if you want to snipe.

If you're a noob and all you have is a Mantis, then I think stasis sniping is the way to go until you're lucky enough to get a decent sniper rifle in the recruit pack. Either that, or I must REALLY suck at sniping. I can't do the infiltrator with my mantis and basically no mods as I am.

[tractrpl]

Incendax wrote...

Salarian Engineer can rock +190% Recharge with a Mantis X.
Krogan Soldier can rock +200% Recharge with a Mantis X.

Both are a pretty lethal combination.

Soldiers are meant to carry a sniper rifle. Yes, they're hobbled in multiplayer, but in the single player campaigns, the sniper rifle was my go-to weapon for all of the games.

[Kastrenzo]

Because they can?

Any class can use any weapon, that doesn't mean they should but the option is there.
Otherwise, we'd be seeing the same weapon restriction ME2 had

I used to run around as a Quarian Infiltrator with a Crusader, outperforming other snipers with that beast. a SHOTGUN

Are you going to complain about that too?

Modifié par Kastrenzo, 09 avril 2012 - 05:30 .

[N7 Banshee Bait]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

 Seriously, I was playing with an Adept, a Soldier, and a Sentinel, and everyone was using sniper rifles. Probably why we didn't get all the way through.

Just doesn't make any sense.

Sniper rifles in MP don't make any sense.  Sniper rifles are for sitting in one place far away from the battle & being patient. Mass Effect MP has enemies coming at you constantly from all sides forcing you to run around. The entire MP game goes against the whole point of sniper rifles. That's why I never use them. They just don't belong in the middle of a hot zone.

Modifié par Steelgrave, 09 avril 2012 - 05:34 .

[ElementL09]

Salarian Engineer with Viper Sniper Rifle and Cryo Ammo and I do work on Silver.

[smokevf]

Using sniper with infiltrator is not as good as the shotgun, on gold sniper is useless I run golds like bronze. Either claymore, spike thrower, or geth plasma shotty is your best bet. For me I use claymore at a 10 and can take primes out on gold in 2-3 shots very easy. Anyone wanna team up send me message on xbl. Gt= lxEPiCxBEASTxl

[Schneidend]

Because these damn packs aren't dropping upgrades for my assault rifle scope!

[TLK Spires]

any time i see an asari using a sniper, i immediately know i'm dealing with a jackass, so i promptly kick them. it's like showing up at baseball practice with a tutu on: just plain embarrassing.

[tractrpl]

TLK Spires wrote...

any time i see an asari using a sniper, i immediately know i'm dealing with a jackass, so i promptly kick them. it's like showing up at baseball practice with a tutu on: just plain embarrassing.

Why? I'm a low level character, barely 30 N7 rating. I have no good sniper rifle, no good shotgun, just now got a carnifex, and only a crappy mantis. I might agree with you if I'm level 456 like I'd guess you are, but as it stands I need as much help as I can get just to keep up with all the level 200+ N7 ratings I see.

[Kastrenzo]

TLK Spires wrote...

any time i see an asari using a sniper, i immediately know i'm dealing with a jackass, so i promptly kick them. it's like showing up at baseball practice with a tutu on: just plain embarrassing.

umad bro?

I don't actually play an Asari with a Sniper rifle, But I've kicked people out for a lot worse..

And a lot less 

[tractrpl]

Kastrenzo wrote...

TLK Spires wrote...

any time i see an asari using a sniper, i immediately know i'm dealing with a jackass, so i promptly kick them. it's like showing up at baseball practice with a tutu on: just plain embarrassing.

umad bro?

I don't actually play an Asari with a Sniper rifle, But I've kicked people out for a lot worse..

And a lot less 

Probably saw my approx 30 N7 rating score higher than her 256 or so rating and got butthurt.

Modifié par tractrpl, 09 avril 2012 - 06:11 .

[Schneidend]

TLK Spires wrote...

any time i see an asari using a sniper, i immediately know i'm dealing with a jackass, so i promptly kick them. it's like showing up at baseball practice with a tutu on: just plain embarrassing.

Yeah, curse them for wanting to play an asari commando. They should be ridiculed and hated.

[ItsFreakinJesus]

Stasis + Headshot

No different than freezing and headshotting, or setting someone on fire to stagger them before shooting their heads off.

With the right player, most powers can be perfect with the sniper rifle.

I've played Gold plenty of times with my Asari Vanguard with a sniper rifle and maybe a pistol/smg as backup, if that.  Sure, I didn't have bonus damage, but that didn't mean I wasn't effective.

Partner up with someone and have them pick off things that get too close while you deal with them far away.

Modifié par ItsFreakinJesus, 09 avril 2012 - 08:17 .

[ABjerre]

When it comes to Soldier w. sniper rifle, the Turian is deadly during marksman. And i'm sure that you'd rather that the Krogan has a rifle option too during that hacking mission.

I play Turian Sentinel, sporting everyting from Light Assault + Light Sniper Rifle on Bronze to Black Widow or M-99 (depending on squad) on Gold. The ability to strip shields and then headshot is awesome.

Closely related is engeneer with turret, drone or decoy, paired with energy drain or whatever, and a heavy rifle, it makes for a nice and relaxing gameplay. Not so much power-spam - just pieck stuff off as it appears.

Oh yeah, and

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

Stasis + Headshot

No different than freezing and headshotting, or setting someone on fire to stagger them before shooting their heads off.

A god-like ability on gold Cerberus when Phantoms are moving in.

Modifié par ABjerre, 09 avril 2012 - 08:19 .

[LGear]

Steelgrave wrote...

Sniper rifles in MP don't make any sense.  Sniper rifles are for sitting in one place far away from the battle & being patient. Mass Effect MP has enemies coming at you constantly from all sides forcing you to run around. The entire MP game goes against the whole point of sniper rifles. That's why I never use them. They just don't belong in the middle of a hot zone.

Except a lot of maps in MP have good long-range fields of fire like Firebase Dagger, Firebase Giant and Firebase White, and with ideal positions from which to camp and snipe. Also, the military has a term for riflemen that can provide both long range and medium-range fire support using scoped weapons: the Designated Marksman. Which is technically what you are in Mass Effect MP: you're not so much a true sniper as you are a DM. 

On the issue of Sniper Rifles on non-Infiltrators... why not? Once upgraded to at least VI or VII and above, most Sniper rifles don't interfere with your power cooldowns too much (as a rule, keeping your power cooldown above +160% will still give you good recharge times), and for some classes the ability to provide ranged hitting power is a godsend. Sure you can add scopes to pistols, but you sacrifice a mod slot to do so, while with a Sniper you can add zoom in while still maintaining good stopping power.  

On Vanguards, sure Human Vanguards with Snipers are a waste since their specialty should be in Charge + Nova. But for Drell and Asari Vanguards that can't simply charge in and lay waste to enemies in CQC, hanging back in the rear with sniper rifles is a good alternative, using Charge only for relocation or when caught with their pants down in CQC. 

[ItsFreakinJesus]

Yeah, exactly. Even if the headshot doesn't kill them, it does more than enough damage to keep them from being a long term threat. And when you have two or more Phantoms clustered together and there's only one infiltrator on your team, the vanguard having a sniper too will help destroy this threat with a quickness.

[Enundr]

personally ive been working a turian sentinel running around with a M-99 Saber (so sorta sniper and sorta not) turians themselves get good weapon usage benefits (stability/accuracy and damage) so that would be soliders and sentinels. otherwise couldnt figure out why an adept would choose a sniper over aoe biotic death explosions. i mean literally go 200% recharge speed for say asari adpet and pick the biggest target like a geth prime or atlas , can almost guarantee you'll get a couple of kills hitting that with biotic explosions while hitting the prime pretty hard. why an adept would choose a sniper over that confuses me myself , they cut down their overall potential by decreasing the rate they can cause said biotic explosions ;-)

[Magicman10893]

Human Soldier with Widow is beast. Fire once and then Adrenaline Rush for the instant reload and fire a second, more powerful shot. Then with duration upgrades you have enough time to fire off a third, high powered shot.

Turian Soldiers and Sentinels have accuracy and weapon damage bonuses so they aren't a bad choice either.

Krogans don't really give a crap about cooldowns so they can run around with the Widow and not give a ****.

Asari Adept can Stasis an enemy and line up the easy headshot. Since Stasis-ed enemies take bonus damage you can even get away with using a weak but light sniper rifle. The weight will allow you to spam Stasis and the lower damage is negligible due to the guaranteed headshot plus bonus damage.

Salarian Engineer can use Decoy and Energy Drain to stop enemies and line up an easy headshot. I believe Salarians get a weight reduction on sniper rifles so it synergizes well. The Quarian and Human also work in the same way with Combat Drone/Turret and Overload/Cryo Blast.

Human Vanguards can use the scope on the sniper rifle to ChargeNovaChargeNocaChargeNova from a greater distance. You can't really use weapons up close with this setup, so just spam Charge and Nova on lower difficulties.

Asari Vanguards combine the strategies of the Human Vanguard and Asari Adept since the Asari Vanguard has Stasis and Charge.

Although if everyone has a sniper rifle that is just plain silly.

[samb]

 In ME2 I used sniper rifles on my power users to increase the range on my powers. I think that is an acceptable tactic even if it means I cast less often.  Granted with the new weight system +150% on cooldowns is the new normal rather than a bonus. 

Why does the OP have a problem with soldiers using sniper rifles?  Adrenaline rush with a sniper rifle is one of the few decent things you can do with AR. Double the clip size of your valiant/BW with a healthy boost on damage as well. 

No one will use a sniper rifle as well as infiltrators but that doesn't means they can't still be effective. Of course, it doesn't garantee they will be either.  

[Ryuu814]

Klokos wrote...

Ah, I once met an asari adept with revenant and widow...

I never understoof why caster type classes took all the heavy weapons...Surely it's going to be detrimental to your abilities with the cooldown bonus.

[nicethugbert]

Less time out of cover.

[tractrpl]

In the single player campaign there are asari snipers. In fact, the Widow is found in Thessia. I don't see how being an Asari sniper in multiplayer is "an embarrassment". It makes sense for there to be at least some asari snipers in real life, so why not in multiplayer?

[Yigorse]

Soldiers can use Sniper Rifles. They're a weapon based class and if they're accurate theres no reason why they shouldn't.

Friend of mine plays as an Engineer with only a Viper X as a weapon. Doesn't mess up his cooldowns too badly, and provides a powerful, accurate weapon. (He doesn't have the Carnifex yet).

Adepts...hmm... if they're good I don't mind, but taking a sniper on an adept because you're too lazy to get headshots without stasis seems a bit stupid.

Vanguards, Hahahahahaaa... no. I've seen it done before, it CAN work, but it requires a radically different play-style to most vanguards and it's still not effective as playing the class to its strengths.

Sentinels. Assuming they're specced more for weapon damage than powers then sure.

[MstrJedi Kyle]

I have my Human Soldiers bring a sniper rifle. Sometimes its easier than running across the map.