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[Xceptopec]

Don't care which class I am using - my loadout (currently) is GPR IV and Widow II, it's what works best for me.

Besides, I have never liked the biotic/tech powers in any of the ME games - I played for the story. I'm not going to avoid MP because of the powers, I'm simply going to rely primarily on my weapons.

[Gravbh]

I laugh every time I see an Asari with a sniper rifle. If you need stasis to pull off headshots you shouldn't be using a sniper rifle in the first place.

[Dr-Rai1]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I don't have a problem with it in theory, but when there are four people using sniper rifles as primary weapons on a map it's a bit much.

If they're terrible yeah, but I take sniper rifles on any class when I want and usually end up on top, it's not the weapon but how you use it

P.S Nice avatar, that ending made me shed a tear.

[tonyng9]

The problem is that headshots do so much damage. You would think that sniper rifles do less damage, but with the 250% multiplier on headshot damage and the fact that the sniper rifle is accurate and I can stay in cover most of the time, I find it much easier to hold a corridor with a sniper rifle than with an assault rifle. It makes no sense, but that is the mechanics of the game. The Carnifex is effectively a sniper rifle in disguise, it makes no sense that a pistol with a short barrel is so much more accurate than the assault rifles. But it lets you land those headshots with that 250% multiplier. And I believe that the effect actually is an multiplier, while most other damage buffs simply sum, so it adds a ridiculous amount of damage.

The "standard" meta-game has drifted towards spamming abilities (warp/throw, chain overload, charge/nova, etc) with very light weapons (or a Carnifex, which is a mid-weight weapon at lower levels) or to using headshot weapons (sniper rifles or the Carnifex). They simply have better range and better damage than most assault rifles, shot guns, and SMGs. Also, not surprisingly, the "sniper" shotguns (the geth and the grail) are the most popular.

[DiebytheSword]

Gravbh wrote...

I laugh every time I see an Asari with a sniper rifle. If you need stasis to pull off headshots you shouldn't be using a sniper rifle in the first place.

I have an Asari with a sniper rifle, and I assure you its not because I need stasis to pull of headshots.  I'm quite capable of that with my infiltrator.

What my infiltrator can't do is snipe and set up biotic explosions.

So, stasis with vulnerability (+120% damage or something similar) and +20% to headshots is a bad build because why?

Your shortsightedness and assumptions (and those who are like minded) is exactly why this MP community is going to have a rough time of it.

At what point does your mocking become a votekick because someone is working a build contrary to what you would make?  Co-op is about being of the best service you can possibly be to the team, not ****ing about other peoples classes and loadouts.

[Trickshavv]

When you can out score me is when you can criticize my weapon selection.

Until then, money -->> mouth.

[tractrpl]

Gravbh wrote...

I laugh every time I see an Asari with a sniper rifle. If you need stasis to pull off headshots you shouldn't be using a sniper rifle in the first place.

Then what the hell is cryo blast for, hmmm?

[tractrpl]

Gankstah wrote...

When you can out score me is when you can criticize my weapon selection.

Until then, money -->> mouth.

True that! These people seem upset because a Level 30 N7 is outscoring level 200 N7 rankings with just an asari and a mantis. I MIGHT understand if I had a different sniper rifle, but I don't see how you can do well with just a Mantis and cryo blast. To me, the mantis is ONLY good with stasis (or adrenaline rush in single player, but adrenaline rush DOESN'T WORK in multiplayer, so the mantis is useless unless you have stasis).

[Highlord Heian]

tractrpl wrote...

Gravbh wrote...

I laugh every time I see an Asari with a sniper rifle. If you need stasis to pull off headshots you shouldn't be using a sniper rifle in the first place.

Then what the hell is cryo blast for, hmmm?

Stopping secondary enemies from tearing apart while you take down targets, and weakening enemies to damage.

If you need enemies to stand still to snipe, don't snipe.

[tractrpl]

Highlord Heian wrote...

tractrpl wrote...

Gravbh wrote...

I laugh every time I see an Asari with a sniper rifle. If you need stasis to pull off headshots you shouldn't be using a sniper rifle in the first place.

Then what the hell is cryo blast for, hmmm?

Stopping secondary enemies from tearing apart while you take down targets, and weakening enemies to damage.

If you need enemies to stand still to snipe, don't snipe.

I'm sure you're a level 300 N7 rating with a Viper  or Raptor X, or even a black widow. But I'm just a level 30 N7 rating with a Mantis and nothing else. A mantis fires once every 4 seconds, and only kills if you get a headshot only. You need to kill once every 5 seconds to keep up with those 300 N7 ratings and their top-grade weapons and mods.

Modifié par tractrpl, 09 avril 2012 - 10:40 .

[GGW KillerTiger]

 Same reason why infiltrators use none-snipers. It fits that persons play style.

[tractrpl]

Highlord Heian wrote...

tractrpl wrote...

Gravbh wrote...

I laugh every time I see an Asari with a sniper rifle. If you need stasis to pull off headshots you shouldn't be using a sniper rifle in the first place.

Then what the hell is cryo blast for, hmmm?

Stopping secondary enemies from tearing apart while you take down targets, and weakening enemies to damage.

If you need enemies to stand still to snipe, don't snipe.

Dude, do you PLAY single player? Or are you one of those Call of Duty lackies that bought the game ony for the multiplayer? Soldier and sentinels have the ability to slow down time. Stasis merely allows me to do in mp what I do in sp already. You can play your ****ty Call of Duty however you want, but I've been a Mass Effect player since the beginning of the first game. Don't tell me how to play my game.

[tractrpl]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

 Same reason why infiltrators use none-snipers. It fits that persons play style.

Many sentinals only use the Carnifex. That's because if you only have a Mantis, sentinels suck a sniping.

[Highlord Heian]

tractrpl wrote...

Gankstah wrote...

When you can out score me is when you can criticize my weapon selection.

Until then, money -->> mouth.

True that! These people seem upset because a Level 30 N7 is outscoring level 200 N7 rankings with just an asari and a mantis. I MIGHT understand if I had a different sniper rifle, but I don't see how you can do well with just a Mantis and cryo blast. To me, the mantis is ONLY good with stasis (or adrenaline rush in single player, but adrenaline rush DOESN'T WORK in multiplayer, so the mantis is useless unless you have stasis).

How is it "useless"? I see plenty of people using 1-shot snipers without enemies standing still for them. Widow, Mantis, without cryo blast or stasis.

Hooray for sniping, yeah. Easy to get a big score with that. Simple to aim for the easy points and pump your score up, but I'm sure your team would prefer somebody who can do more than shoot their own target, and hold their target in place. That's not teamwork. That's a focus on your score.

Brag about your score over some N7 200 all you want, but needing to keep a target held in place to snipe says only one thing: you're not a competent sniper, but you snipe anyway.

[Delta095]

Because if your character is made of glass then it's a good way to deal damage while not dying.

And in cases like mine, sniping is all you're good at. I used to snipe as a sentinel and a soldier until I found better builds. Now, I really just play infiltrator with it.

But in my opinion, if you've got a good sniper rifle, i.e. a javelin, it makes a good starter weapon for a combat class at level 1.

Then again, Geth plasma shotguns work much better.

Modifié par Delta095, 09 avril 2012 - 10:57 .

[JohnDoe]

Salarian engineer gets bonuses for the sniper, so DEAL WITH IT.

also some of us do play better with raw direct firepower than spamming powers or going rambo with rifles/pistols..etc...

Highlord Heian wrote...


Stopping secondary enemies from tearing apart while you take down targets, and weakening enemies to damage.

If you need enemies to stand still to snipe, don't snipe.

you are a bit dumb if you dont think of a certain variant...
that variant being... how most of the time enemies run TO YOU, not sideways.
so you can still snipe easily ;P


also on completely unrelated thing..

I noticed that playing on geth onbronze.. I can shot to enemies with my widow on their HEAD.. (geth specially) and they will survive with 1 bar or 2 bars of HP..
but if I hit plain head (middle) or chest.. they die instantly.. wtf?
did they add a armored boxes to the geth's heads?

Modifié par JohnDoe, 09 avril 2012 - 10:56 .

[TheInvicibleCandyBar]

Why is anyone using a sniper rifle? I was told only Church was allowed to use it.....

[mrcanada]

 Out of that list, the only one that should never use a SR is the Adept.  They are doing it completely wrong.

[tractrpl]

Highlord Heian wrote...

tractrpl wrote...

Gankstah wrote...

When you can out score me is when you can criticize my weapon selection.

Until then, money -->> mouth.

True that! These people seem upset because a Level 30 N7 is outscoring level 200 N7 rankings with just an asari and a mantis. I MIGHT understand if I had a different sniper rifle, but I don't see how you can do well with just a Mantis and cryo blast. To me, the mantis is ONLY good with stasis (or adrenaline rush in single player, but adrenaline rush DOESN'T WORK in multiplayer, so the mantis is useless unless you have stasis).

How is it "useless"? I see plenty of people using 1-shot snipers without enemies standing still for them. Widow, Mantis, without cryo blast or stasis.

Hooray for sniping, yeah. Easy to get a big score with that. Simple to aim for the easy points and pump your score up, but I'm sure your team would prefer somebody who can do more than shoot their own target, and hold their target in place. That's not teamwork. That's a focus on your score.

Brag about your score over some N7 200 all you want, but needing to keep a target held in place to snipe says only one thing: you're not a competent sniper, but you snipe anyway.

The enemy is dead. Why do you care HOW they died? In Afghanistan, if we spotted Taliban shooting at Marines, we'd drop ordanance on them. We wouldn't shoot them with small arms fire, we'd drop ordanance on them, problem solved. In war, you don't care how you kill them, just kill them without putting yourself at risk and with as little collateral damage as possible.

[tractrpl]

The goal in war is to kill as many of them as you can without even remotely getting yourself into danger. Do you want to talk about an unrealistic class, then talk about vanguards. You PURPOSELY get close to the enemy? That's stupid, but the game mechanics allow for it, so it works. I've never seen a more efficient way to kill low level enemies than with an asari with a sniper rifle. Well, maybe some nice shotguns will do the trick, but I don't have any. Does it give you less of an advantage with high level enemies? Yes. But mp is 99% low level enemies with no shields, and an asari with a sniper rifle mows them down with extreme prejudice. It kills them quickly, so who cares?

Modifié par tractrpl, 09 avril 2012 - 11:08 .

[OhNineTeen]

I frequently use a sniper, and almost always have it equipped on my Soldiers, Adepts or Infiltrators.
It really just depends on the way YOU play, not your class plays.

[III Achilles II]

The truth is that Krogan Sentinels can tank with Tech armor.

I've played through Gold with low level Sentinels and Soldiers with my Valiant and Claymore/Revenant

The past two nights I've played GOLD:
level 16: 150k in points NOT EXP
level 18: 120k in points NOT EXP

The truth is you either do a power build or a weapon build. Infiltrators are great, but if you carry another heavy weapon then it takes too long to cloak as often.

I don't understand the Asari adepts using them, but remember everyone can carry two weapons.

If you have a team setup with snipers, punch people out before they get close and then switch weapons to clean them up when they do close in. It can work.

But yea, if your team isn't making it very far with those setups, then that's silly.


Anyone wanting to run Golds. Hit me up on XBL: III Achilles II

[SinerAthin]

OhNineTeen wrote...

I frequently use a sniper, and almost always have it equipped on my Soldiers, Adepts or Infiltrators.
It really just depends on the way YOU play, not your class plays.

Having the wrong weapon loadout means that you are nerfing yourself though.

And nobody likes to carry a gimped player, especially on Gold.