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[Garrus30]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Jackumzz wrote...

Tesclo wrote...

All this because the game doesn't end with sunshine and bunnies? Seriously? Stop living in fantasy land and understand that everything isn't a fairytale book ending. There are more important things to be pissed off about this game than the ending. Let's try the big FU that Bioware gave to anyone that didn't romance Ashley or the stupid blue alien? Where is Miranda? Oh she's at Cerberus that company that you worked for and now for some magical reason you can't side with anymore. Why? Well because Bioware said so. So yea I could care less about the ending the actual game is going to suck.

Do you guys not understand a game full of choices should have more than 1 ending?

Yeah it had lots of choices, like chossing which characters you let live or die and maybe other stuff 
I was already prepared that since I played ME2 that there weren't much impact of the choices you made, but still you could do your own way of playing.

Modifié par Garrus30, 01 mars 2012 - 02:15 .

[Whatever42]

Garrus30 wrote...
Some people just can't stop overreacting because they can't get their own end :facepalm: 

They aren't threatening suicide. They are simply not finishing the story. I've put down books before. Some people can't - if they start a book, they must finish it. Not everyone is like that. I never even watched the third Matrix movie.

For some players, they played Mass Effect like Star Wars. They had the hero, who survived ridiculous odds to defeat the villains and escape. Now they find out that the "good" ending is like the directors cut of bladerunner. I think most of us thought that would be the bad ending. They just don't see a payoff for finishing the series.

That's not overreacting. That's just putting down the book because you're not enjoying it anymore.

[DifferentD17]

Jackumzz wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Jackumzz wrote...

Tesclo wrote...

All this because the game doesn't end with sunshine and bunnies? Seriously? Stop living in fantasy land and understand that everything isn't a fairytale book ending. There are more important things to be pissed off about this game than the ending. Let's try the big FU that Bioware gave to anyone that didn't romance Ashley or the stupid blue alien? Where is Miranda? Oh she's at Cerberus that company that you worked for and now for some magical reason you can't side with anymore. Why? Well because Bioware said so. So yea I could care less about the ending the actual game is going to suck.

Do you guys not understand a game full of choices should have more than 1 ending?

i'd say the three major options as to how to end the battle with the reapers result in very different endings for the rest of the galaxy. it's just the choice in what happens to shep and crew that's lacking. even still, there's more than a single ending for the rest of the galaxy, which invalidates all of the complaints about no variation.

Every ending the reapers lose, so what? There's no choice if the outcome is the same.

Modifié par DifferentD17, 01 mars 2012 - 02:16 .

[Garrus30]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

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That's not overreacting. That's just putting down the book because you're not enjoying it anymore.

How can you know that? Have you played the game?
Does a bad ending (which you can't change) alone makes the game bad?

Would you react the same if you'd know 1-2 weeks beforhand that Darth Vader would sacrifice himself for his son Luke by killing the Imperator?

No that is overreacting.
It's alos pretty much the same if you know the end and you don't like it by hearing/reading it alone.

Modifié par Garrus30, 01 mars 2012 - 02:25 .

[Hedera]

You know, I still have a tiny bit of hope left that this whole thing is a cruel joke and such.

If it isn't, at least I'll get a great game up until the endings. I'll remember it fondly as I find something besides gaming to pass my time.

And no, ME3's ending is not making me quit gaming. That's kind of been in the making for a while.

[hawat333]

Yeah, go, go away, and cry in your dark little corner.
I don't care.
We don't care.
BioWare doesn't care.

You judjge a whole game from a text summary of an ending. That tells more about you than it does about the game, actually.

[Whatever42]

Garrus30 wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

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That's not overreacting. That's just putting down the book because you're not enjoying it anymore.

How can you know that?
Does a bad ending (which you can't change) alone makes the game bad?

No that is overreacting.

A bad ending can make the story bad, yes. 

An extreme example: you're reading a romance novel when a friend tells you that there is no happy ending, that the characters all get captured by a serial killer who eats their livers with a nice Chianti. That's probably not exactly what you signed up to read, so you stop reading.

Most people are invested in Mass Effect for the story. The gameplay in ME1 was certainly not worth getting hooked on the game. Now that they know that the story (in their opinion) ends on a grim note, which was not the tone with the heroic endings in the previous two games, they just don't want to continue it.

The gameplay may be awesome and if you buy ME3 for the gameplay, I'm sure its worth it.

So, no, not overreacting. 

[DifferentD17]

Jackumzz wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Jackumzz wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Jackumzz wrote...

Tesclo wrote...

All this because the game doesn't end with sunshine and bunnies? Seriously? Stop living in fantasy land and understand that everything isn't a fairytale book ending. There are more important things to be pissed off about this game than the ending. Let's try the big FU that Bioware gave to anyone that didn't romance Ashley or the stupid blue alien? Where is Miranda? Oh she's at Cerberus that company that you worked for and now for some magical reason you can't side with anymore. Why? Well because Bioware said so. So yea I could care less about the ending the actual game is going to suck.

Do you guys not understand a game full of choices should have more than 1 ending?

i'd say the three major options as to how to end the battle with the reapers result in very different endings for the rest of the galaxy. it's just the choice in what happens to shep and crew that's lacking. even still, there's more than a single ending for the rest of the galaxy, which invalidates all of the complaints about no variation.

Every ending the reapers lose, so what? There's no choice if the outcome is the same.

mass effect: in every ending sovereign is defeated
mass effect 2: in every ending the collectors are defeated

now we get to choose the fate of the rest of the galaxy and it's some huge issue?

ok..

ME1: The council is dead or alive, You pick a councilmember, The Rachni are either dead or alive.
ME2: You have your team killed or not, You also pick if you keep the reaper tech or don't.

Both games build up to the future, and it goes nowhere.

[CptData]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...
Some people just can't stop overreacting because they can't get their own end :facepalm: 

They aren't threatening suicide. They are simply not finishing the story. I've put down books before. Some people can't - if they start a book, they must finish it. Not everyone is like that. I never even watched the third Matrix movie.

For some players, they played Mass Effect like Star Wars. They had the hero, who survived ridiculous odds to defeat the villains and escape. Now they find out that the "good" ending is like the directors cut of bladerunner. I think most of us thought that would be the bad ending. They just don't see a payoff for finishing the series.

That's not overreacting. That's just putting down the book because you're not enjoying it anymore.

Never watched Matrix III too. It felt like betraying the fans of Matrix I.

[Garrus30]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

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That's not overreacting. That's just putting down the book because you're not enjoying it anymore.

How can you know that?
Does a bad ending (which you can't change) alone makes the game bad?

No that is overreacting.

A bad ending can make the story bad, yes. 

An extreme example: you're reading a romance novel when a friend tells you that there is no happy ending, that the characters all get captured by a serial killer who eats their livers with a nice Chianti. That's probably not exactly what you signed up to read, so you stop reading.

Most people are invested in Mass Effect for the story. The gameplay in ME1 was certainly not worth getting hooked on the game. Now that they know that the story (in their opinion) ends on a grim note, which was not the tone with the heroic endings in the previous two games, they just don't want to continue it.

The gameplay may be awesome and if you buy ME3 for the gameplay, I'm sure its worth it.

So, no, not overreacting. 

Like I said, you'll have to play the game, as it could make (much more) sense why we get these same endings, because you don't know how the story goes from the beginning to the end of ME3.

Modifié par Garrus30, 01 mars 2012 - 02:28 .

[SilencedScream]

Garrus30 wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

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That's not overreacting. That's just putting down the book because you're not enjoying it anymore.

How can you know that? Have you played the game?
Does a bad ending (which you can't change) alone makes the game bad?

In the wrap-up of a series that's been invested in by players for several years, yes - a bad ending can not only ruin the game, but ruin the series.
Prior to knowing the endings, this was easily one of my favorite trilogies - ever. Now that I've read and even watched videos of the endings, I highly doubt I'll remember this game in two years.

[mulder1199]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...
Some people just can't stop overreacting because they can't get their own end :facepalm: 

They aren't threatening suicide. They are simply not finishing the story. I've put down books before. Some people can't - if they start a book, they must finish it. Not everyone is like that. I never even watched the third Matrix movie.

For some players, they played Mass Effect like Star Wars. They had the hero, who survived ridiculous odds to defeat the villains and escape. Now they find out that the "good" ending is like the directors cut of bladerunner. I think most of us thought that would be the bad ending. They just don't see a payoff for finishing the series.

That's not overreacting. That's just putting down the book because you're not enjoying it anymore.

it's lazy....couldn't have been too much trouble to have an end where things are still in shambles, but not so bad....this would have appeased most anybody that wanted a 'happy ending'....and there would still be the other endings for the folks that thought the endings should be bleak.....fortunately this is something that could be patched in day 1, fixed with dlc or something, so i'm hoping....

[Whatever42]

Jackumzz wrote...

mass effect: in every ending sovereign is defeated
mass effect 2: in every ending the collectors are defeated

now we get to choose the fate of the rest of the galaxy and it's some huge issue?

ok..

In ME1, the shape of the universe is pretty different. Heroic Shepard saves the council and galaxy remains ruled by a multi-species confederation or ruthless Shepard dooms the council and humanity rises to the top.

In ME2, Cerberus has a fancy new space station or you thumbed your nose at Cerberus and destroyed it. Smaller scale choice, true.

However, neither of those really matter now, do they? In ME3, the galaxy is screwed. Your crew is screwed. You just get to pick how they're screwed. It would be like having the council die in the end of ME1 or having the council spend their lives as invalids in locked ward.

Not to mention, apparently none of your previous choices really matter to the outcome - only the color you picked at the end. 

I'm still hoping that the analysis of those studying the endings is false, mind you. That somehow decisions still matter. That somehow, in context, the good ending feels good. But if what we're reading is true, I fear that its not going to be very satisfying for me.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 01 mars 2012 - 02:37 .

[ManyDeadCats]

It took George Lucas 20 years before he started churning out dementia quality scripts. BW only took 4.

Modifié par ManyDeadCats, 01 mars 2012 - 02:34 .

[PosterAnonymous]

Personally, I liked the idea someone had for a potential ME3 sequel - Mass Effect 4: Garrus's Island. Garrus could play "Gilligan", Joker would of course be "The Skipper", "The Professor" could be played by Mordi--

Oh... Wait...

Well, at least "Mary Ann" could be played by Miran--

Oh... Wait...

Well, we know who would play the money-hungry couple "The Thurstons" - Kasumi and Zae--

Oh... Wait...

Why did I pre-order this again?

[CptData]

Given the fact how ME3 ends (doesn't really matter what you pick, the galaxy will end in a Dark Age), ME1 and ME2 turn out to be insignificant in the end.

ME3 is what "Arrival" is for ME2. It makes an entire plot insignificant, since it doesn't matter what you did or experienced, in the end it comes down to one bad decision - and that one does change only the color of the outcome, not the outcome itself.

Which is really, really bad for those who were with the series from the beginning.

[Charsi]

Im not canceling becouse of multiplayer!

I can't say that will be bad ending's, but I did not like what I read, becouse makes me wonder, why I did all the choises in previous games and the end's are pretty mutch the same for everybody???

They should give us more freedoom to the endings (like fallout New vegas as an example), but still to soon to say, I need to see ingame for myself!!!

True to be told this is feeling like a Fallout 3/DA2 all over with a damn bad endings!!!

But what can we do? They wont listen to us, at least one thing I know for sure, they all are a bunch of lazy people, starting with those stupid animations in 2D ingame to this "strange/horrible endings"!!!!

Modifié par Charsi, 01 mars 2012 - 02:44 .

[kyg_20X6]

You know, it's about payoff. If I get my payoff, and closure, in regards to LIs, squaddies, plotlines, etc. then I don't care if it ends like that afterward. Just, from what I've heard, I'm worried I'm not going to get that payoff... I'm going to get some half-assed cutscene and the death of my character.

[mulder1199]

i would have thought that they would have put a little more thought into how this played out, considering the debacle that was "Deception"

[Hedera]

My personal problem with this is that they played it up until this point to be "Shepard's story"

Up until this point, It's been all about the PC, and her/his interactions with the squad. We got to know the characters. Heck, there are THOUSAND PAGE THREADS for practically all of them. When we go into the last game in a trilogy about CHARACTER INTERACTIONS, you expect some closure for those Characters.

But, as far as we've heard, EVERY SINGLE ONE of them is basically dropped into a black hole and forgotten about in favor of some out-of-nowhere metaphorical endings.

Metaphorical is fine and all, but the reason I play ME is because I get to see all the metaphors and high-level thinking stuff through the perspectives of these people I've gotten to know over the past few YEARS OF MY LIFE.

So forgive me if I get a little bit upset when I find out the characters I've been following basically disappear for no reason. Yes, I'm a little too invested in this. Yes, I have no friends and live in my parent's basement. (Not actually true)

But give me something here.