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#126
BellPeppers&Beef023

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Astralify wrote...

Cirreus wrote...

Am I still buying my Xbox 360 CE N7of ME ? Sure. Am I going to play through it ? Sure.

Am I recommending this series (especially ME2 & 3) anymore ? NO

I am a paying costumer at the end of the day. The most important thing Bioware needs to know is --- I'm telling my friends not to buy this game ---. I've been burned too many times with EA/Bioware. This is my last hoo-ha.

First it's the pre-order DLC, then it's the exclusive DLC, then it's merchandising DLC, then it's other game DLC ... on top of that you can't buy some of it after while. ME2 has DLC you can't buy ... how is that good for business ? There has been no signs of a GOTYE for ME2 (likely none for ME3).

How many people have played ME1 & 2 again perfecting the saves in anticipation for ME3 ? How many hours were sunk in ? Replays or not ... a large amount of time by many fans is invested.

Then leaks come out. Leaks that describe your investment may not stable, it could even be for nothing.

Grim isn't the game endings, it's the journey loyal fans & customers have been baited into.

And what do I have to look forward to ? Future content (DLC) atm is even looking more grim. EA is going to milk the multiplayer component of ME3 to death. I can see an EA excutive stroking his wallet in hopes of ME3/MP being the next CoD Zombie mode.

It's like my only hope is they sell DLC that allows an happy ending. It's just started to sink in now why people are angry with the Ashes DLC & the prothean squad mate. It's a real slap in the face (I'm looking at you Felicia Day & Jessica Chobot). And not just a financial one, but an entire circle of fantasy, gameplay, story, escape, & roleplaying. I've replayed ME1 & 2, bought the art book, pre-ordered, payed for the CE, ... I even had both the Ally & Cerberus SR2 Normandy models (registered I might add). And what do I have to look forward to after my 5 year + investement ? The Soprano's series finale & CoD Zombies:Mass Effect Horde Mode Edition (now with extra DLC drops) ...

The beef at the end of the day is that. I've been sold on this illusion of choice, fun & adventure, but the rides over. That's what the endings are telling me. It's like going on the log flume at an amusement park,... and you know that big finale at the end of the ride. It's that slow & scary climb to the top & the big splash at the bottom. Am I going to get soaked ? Are those people walking by outside the ride going to get soaked ? It's the thrill of that moment at the end. But there is no big splash here. There is the wait in line, the scary climb up, the anticipation, the water misting in the air ... but then ride stops & you get off.

P.S. don't forget redem that Dr. Pepper code for in game DLC ... it's expires before this thread does. :pinched:


This.


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Dark Specie

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txgoldrush wrote...
No, Sword burns, Hammer fails, squad killed, Earth destroyed, Green ending unattainable, Shep killed, and the normandy crew killed

vs

Sword successful, Hammer successful, Earth saved, party survives, Shep has possibilty to live, Crew survives, stranded, but lives on among companionship.

You are just plain WRONG.


Why the need to answer me twice? Anyway...

No, I'm not. Oh, true, there are variations, but in the end it all amounts to the same thing: the Repaers are defeated no matter what, the Relays are always destroyed and the Normandy ALWAYS end up crashed on some planet with Shepard being dead or (supposedly) alive but separated from his LI, squadmates and crew.

In comparison, ME3 had 3 endings:

- Suicide Mission succeeds everyone survives.

- Suicide Mission succeeds, a number of people died.

- Suicide Mission succeeds, Shepard and everyone but Joker dies.

See?

#128
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txgoldrush wrote...

Or that it is a dark sci fi universe and the ending fits the game....ever thought of this.

What was so idiotic about KOTOR (which the original Star Wars has the same mistake) is that billions of people are killed in planetary destruction and no one cares. It was just a scene in a New Hope, or in KOTOR, it just glossed over later.

Lets not forget that stupid light side ending in KOTOR, where they have a party, even though while they win the war, billions of people were killed.

This series is NOT Star Wars, its NOT Star Ocean. It far more mature and far darker, peoples lives and deaths actually matter.


That's the main problem here, the endings do not fit the game. Yes, you could play ME1 and ME2 in a darker, bladerunner sense. However, you could also play it in a high-minded, heroic Star Wars sense. In ME1, you could darkly overthrow the multi-species council but you could also save galactic government and create a new era of cooperation with humanity.

In ME2, you could hand the base over to the somewhat creepy meglomaniac. But you could also destroy it and keep to your ideals. You could also play the game to save your crew from the suicide mission. 

In ME3, Shepard can heroically survive again but his crew's fate is sealed. As is the galaxy's.  No triumpant ending. That is a sharp break in tone.

And blue sex aliens? Magic powers? It wasn't more mature. And darker is not more mature either. Aliens 2 is not more mature than Star Wars, its just darker. There were ethical decisions on the sidelines here - none of them really mattered but they were interesting. However, a more mature game would be no good and evil, no cliches, no tropes. Shepard is a superhero, Reapers are pure evil - this is a fantasy game that went from a choice being a heroic tone or a darker tone to only a darker tone.

If they would have started and ended dark, there would be no complaining. The endings aren't bad per se. The problem is that they changed things up on people. 

Addendum: yes, I am commenting on the perceived endings of the game. I'm still hoping they're better in context.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 02 mars 2012 - 03:39 .


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VironZ

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Mass Effect has always been the same guys, fixed start, fixed middle, fixed end all we did was take different paths to accomplish the same objective, the choices you made just put you on a different route which all lead to the same ending, its just in the way you did it resulting in several degrees of ending,

How would we know anyway? We don't know the definitive endings as not every outcome has been explored? Maybe having a human council and making the choices no one expected result in the best ending possible? We simply won't know until we get the game.

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^ I like this guy. He's friends with logic.

#131
Arkitekt

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Giant LOL @ the nerdragefest going on here.

#firstworldproblems

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Dokarqt

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Tesclo wrote...
Stop living in fantasy land and understand that everything isn't a fairytale book ending.



Well, I kinda do play video games to go live in this "fantasy land" temporarily. Absolute realism is reserved for real life and defending depressing endings by saying its realistic is strange. Anywho, to each their own.

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Arkitekt wrote...

Giant LOL @ the nerdragefest going on here.

#firstworldproblems


Lol.........this guy keeps popping up in all these threads, yelling about firstworldproblems from his high horse, calling others nerds while making multiple posts in a video game forum.  :pinched:

#134
MakeMineMako

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Rafe Sendron wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

Giant LOL @ the nerdragefest going on here.

#firstworldproblems


Lol.........this guy keeps popping up in all these threads, yelling about firstworldproblems from his high horse, calling others nerds while making multiple posts in a video game forum.  :pinched:




Yeah, obvious trolls are amusing, are they not? :whistle:

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Cirreus

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http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/702

I guess I do having something to look forward too  :pinched:

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All I have to say about this is...

...thanks. That's one more copy that's guaranteed to be in my hands instead of being sold out the day of sales.

Now you go enjoy Guild Wars 2 while I prep myself for a Mass Effect 3 filled spring break up ahead!