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[AkiKishi]

The prologue scene is

"Wake up Commander we are arriving at Eden Prime"

[TheCreeper]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

Edit: I also don't think that all endings destory the relays, only one ending destorys all reaper tech to my knowledge, I think the Charon relay just explodes because being the launch relay for that wave is just too much for it.

Interesting observation....could be true...haven't seen the actual scenes myself so I can't judge but I hope you are right.

I'll reserve final judgment until I actually play the ending but that makes the most sense to me. Personally I think having the relay going boom in the other two endings was a mistake since it can give people bad ideas about what happened unless they think things through a bit.

[Elios]

im just pissed about the relays the fact they are toast kill any more games after this in the time line
ME3 will likely be the last bioware game i buy day one

[Darth_Trethon]

WOLF_00 wrote...

With Mass Effect Technology gone; this sound like there is no Mass effect 4. I assume this is can be considered as renegade ending, Destroy, merge or control; all will cause the mass relays to be destroyed, isn't it?

Protheans built a small mass relay that worked just great....I don't see why organics couldn't do this again. I'll bet they probably will by the next ME game.

[incinerator950]

They can't overlook their waifu's being separated from Shepard.

Also, the plot holes and various Deus ex Macguffin factors that spawned from Cheez's napsack of table furniture, and I won't deny that the Normandy epilogue is an awkward attempt at a new Eden beginning.

A lot of the people who are vocal here are Soap fans, so its not a surprise Treth.

Do note only the Relays and Synthetics are destroyed in the Destruction ending.  The Normandy was in transit inside the Relay for some reason.

Modifié par incinerator950, 01 mars 2012 - 01:59 .

[WOLF_00]

wright1978 wrote...

Destroy Ending: Destroy relays, strand Normandy
Control Ending: Destroy relays, strand Normandy
Merge Ending: Destroy relays, strand Normandy

Hmm i'm sensing a pattern here. Good news is that each ending is a different colour. I always wanted the choice of my ending being red coloured or blue coloured or green coloured.

But destroying relays, does it mean destroying solar system in process, like the alpha mass relay in arrival where it had wiped batarian habitable system?? or there is some kind of twist?? 

[TheCreeper]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

the argument i am seeing is " The choices don't matter becuase my shep dies and the crew e.t.c"....That's a bit of a stretch

Yeah, "The choices didn't matter" is an argument I see way too much, espically around here. The chooses you made have a drastic effect on the rest of galatic history. People are just pissed because they didn't get a super duper everyone's completely happy and safe ending.

Personally I think Bioware's being very bold with these endings.

Edit: Also two things to keep in mind people, Relay(s) is/are going boom for a vastly different reason then in arrival, probably won't cause that boom. Also only reaper tech gets destoryed in the destory ending,We still got Mass effect technology since we've built on our own.

Modifié par TheCreeper, 01 mars 2012 - 02:01 .

[Darth_Trethon]

DifferentD17 wrote...

Xayoz wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Lol how could it get worse?

I was expecting humanity to be wiped out.

How do you know it's not?

My understanding is that Earth is shown in all endings in three possible states....destroyed, devastated or relatively OK....

[AkiKishi]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Xayoz wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Lol how could it get worse?

I was expecting humanity to be wiped out.

How do you know it's not?

My understanding is that Earth is shown in all endings in three possible states....destroyed, devastated or relatively OK....

I would have said Earth was boned whatever you do. Unless the Reapers just wait around while you are jetting around the Galaxy.

[Unpleasant Implications]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Mass relays don't need to be huge....

.....hint, the conduit was one, made by organics. It would take time to make large ones but starting small is OK.

And no the gallaxy does not die....reapers kept wiping out organics for millions of years every 50,000 years and yet organics kept persevering.....I think you'd be OK if you tried to put your rage aside for a bit and appreciate what IS there.

Do you understand what it takes to build a Mass Relay? The Conduit was created by a civilization with Mass Relays. You think the necessities can be made from the resources locatable in isolated star sytems? It would take centuries, to re-build what was lost. There are several fleets contining large fighting forces just outside of Earth. Somje of those ships are filled with dextro DNA based soldiers. They are not going to last. That cluster is going to be over populated with numbers that would make the Quarian Flotilla gasp in shock.

And do you know why organics persevered? Let me tell you. Earth, as it is in Mass Effect, has 11 billion people on it. Today's Earth, has 7 billion and is considered to be heavily populated. They were starting to colonize Mars when they discovered Prothean tech. This let them travel to the outer rim and find... holy crap... a Mass Relay! This allowed them to expand and de-populate Earth, which by that time is a little more than somewhat industrial slums. The Mass Relays allowed species to avoid over population and fight over basic necessities, like the Drell homeworld. Without Mass Relays, the Galaxy is ****ed. And this isn't rage. This is fridge horror based on knowledge gained from the endings. I'm just waiting for the game to be shipped and the huge ****storm to hit BSN. Bioware knows it's coming, why else would they change site rules and regulations against personal attack against them? Because they know they're gonna get it.

[eternalshiva]

The citadel is in orbit around earth at the end, and if you survive the blast in destroy, Shepard wakes up in the London Rubble.

Hope. BW didn't completely screw us, just the normandy and Joker's weird fetish for fembots. 

Modifié par Liedral, 01 mars 2012 - 02:07 .

[WOLF_00]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

WOLF_00 wrote...

With Mass Effect Technology gone; this sound like there is no Mass effect 4. I assume this is can be considered as renegade ending, Destroy, merge or control; all will cause the mass relays to be destroyed, isn't it?

Protheans built a small mass relay that worked just great....I don't see why organics couldn't do this again. I'll bet they probably will by the next ME game.

Strating from scratch need a lot of resources and years for the mass relay to be more effective. But how could Reapers build the mass relay and operated them at very good condition where they can sends a fleet without issues at all across the galaxy!  

The prothean mass relay was one way relay and it was connnected to the relay in the cidetal. Now, I am wondering how could a relay placed over there in the presduim at Cidetal? 

[AkiKishi]

TheCreeper wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

the argument i am seeing is " The choices don't matter becuase my shep dies and the crew e.t.c"....That's a bit of a stretch

Yeah, "The choices didn't matter" is an argument I see way too much, espically around here. The chooses you made have a drastic effect on the rest of galatic history. People are just pissed because they didn't get a super duper everyone's completely happy and safe ending.

Personally I think Bioware's being very bold with these endings.

Edit: Also two things to keep in mind people, Relay(s) is/are going boom for a vastly different reason then in arrival, probably won't cause that boom. Also only reaper tech gets destoryed in the destory ending,We still got Mass effect technology since we've built on our own.

Do I care enough about some amorphous mass to go through planet scanning ? 

In ME2 they made the right choice by having your actions and consequences be personal. People on the whole do not connect with the faceless masses of the Galaxy but rather the people they are in contact with.

It's kind of like this.

4000 kids die every day in Africa (at least according to that text food program).
Your puppy dies.

Which one upsets you more?

[TheCreeper]

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Mass relays don't need to be huge....

.....hint, the conduit was one, made by organics. It would take time to make large ones but starting small is OK.

And no the gallaxy does not die....reapers kept wiping out organics for millions of years every 50,000 years and yet organics kept persevering.....I think you'd be OK if you tried to put your rage aside for a bit and appreciate what IS there.

Do you understand what it takes to build a Mass Relay? The Conduit was created by a civilization with Mass Relays. You think the necessities can be made from the resources locatable in isolated star sytems? It would take centuries, to re-build what was lost. There are several fleets contining large fighting forces just outside of Earth. Somje of those ships are filled with dextro DNA based soldiers. They are not going to last. That cluster is going to be over populated with numbers that would make the Quarian Flotilla gasp in shock.

And do you know why organics persevered? Let me tell you. Earth, as it is in Mass Effect, has 11 billion people on it. Today's Earth, has 7 billion and is considered to be heavily populated. They were starting to colonize Mars when they discovered Prothean tech. This let them travel to the outer rim and find... holy crap... a Mass Relay! This allowed them to expand and de-populate Earth, which by that time is a little more than somewhat industrial slums. The Mass Relays allowed species to avoid over population and fight over basic necessities, like the Drell homeworld. Without Mass Relays, the Galaxy is ****ed. And this isn't rage. This is fridge horror based on knowledge gained from the endings. I'm just waiting for the game to be shipped and the huge ****storm to hit BSN. Bioware knows it's coming, why else would they change site rules and regulations against personal attack against them? Because they know they're gonna get it.

No because they've been getting it or did you not notice that one of their own was incrediably and viciously insulted/out right threatened for an interview she gave years ago.

Also people here aren't the nicest bunch.

[concor]

weird thing i have noticed is people seem to be focused on the relays blowing up and such, but no one has pointed out that the ftl drives on the ships can be used for FTL travel without relays. granted it would take more like a year or two or longer and not the normal 3 ecs by relay, but it would still be doable. i mean come on the alliance has a station that was built on the edge of the solar system which before being repurposes for biotic studies was researching FTL travel.
Theres alot of diffrent things to consider could happen.

Also the other main thing is the constant: the files have been mined and such. just because the demo has one set of endings in its films doesnt mean those are set in stone.
Granted doom sayers will shout and haters will hate, but all in all it has been a fantastic series and if my shepard dies i will miss him but i can alwasy go back and replay the whole series from scratch and back and forth for many months.

Thank you bioware. i salute you.

[incinerator950]

I'll just pretend that I'm being ignored when I said that the Destruction ending only destroys Mass Relays and Synthetics (mainly Reaper tech), and not Mass Effect based technology. Which, came from one of the guys who played the game.

[concor]

incinerator you are right with the techs being seprate.

[Unpleasant Implications]

TheCreeper wrote...

No because they've been getting it or did you not notice that one of their own was incrediably and viciously insulted/out right threatened for an interview she gave years ago.

No actually, I didn't. Huh. I take back that last part then.

Also people here aren't the nicest bunch.

That's what makes it funny.

[Darth_Trethon]

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Mass relays don't need to be huge....

.....hint, the conduit was one, made by organics. It would take time to make large ones but starting small is OK.

And no the gallaxy does not die....reapers kept wiping out organics for millions of years every 50,000 years and yet organics kept persevering.....I think you'd be OK if you tried to put your rage aside for a bit and appreciate what IS there.

Do you understand what it takes to build a Mass Relay? The Conduit was created by a civilization with Mass Relays. You think the necessities can be made from the resources locatable in isolated star sytems? It would take centuries, to re-build what was lost. There are several fleets contining large fighting forces just outside of Earth. Somje of those ships are filled with dextro DNA based soldiers. They are not going to last. That cluster is going to be over populated with numbers that would make the Quarian Flotilla gasp in shock.

And do you know why organics persevered? Let me tell you. Earth, as it is in Mass Effect, has 11 billion people on it. Today's Earth, has 7 billion and is considered to be heavily populated. They were starting to colonize Mars when they discovered Prothean tech. This let them travel to the outer rim and find... holy crap... a Mass Relay! This allowed them to expand and de-populate Earth, which by that time is a little more than somewhat industrial slums. The Mass Relays allowed species to avoid over population and fight over basic necessities, like the Drell homeworld. Without Mass Relays, the Galaxy is ****ed. And this isn't rage. This is fridge horror based on knowledge gained from the endings. I'm just waiting for the game to be shipped and the huge ****storm to hit BSN. Bioware knows it's coming, why else would they change site rules and regulations against personal attack against them? Because they know they're gonna get it.

You don't need a mass relay to get to mars....the closest to earth is near pluto so people can move to mars just fine without mass relays....then with help of the prothean technology recovered, may even find more on mars, they'd have time to build mass relays no matter the size.

Nothing I can say will stop your rage but you are just jumping to conclusions that don't make much sense in an effort to make it all seem extremely horrible....you can't so you may as well stop.

[WOLF_00]

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Mass relays don't need to be huge....

.....hint, the conduit was one, made by organics. It would take time to make large ones but starting small is OK.

And no the gallaxy does not die....reapers kept wiping out organics for millions of years every 50,000 years and yet organics kept persevering.....I think you'd be OK if you tried to put your rage aside for a bit and appreciate what IS there.

Do you understand what it takes to build a Mass Relay? The Conduit was created by a civilization with Mass Relays. You think the necessities can be made from the resources locatable in isolated star sytems? It would take centuries, to re-build what was lost. There are several fleets contining large fighting forces just outside of Earth. Somje of those ships are filled with dextro DNA based soldiers. They are not going to last. That cluster is going to be over populated with numbers that would make the Quarian Flotilla gasp in shock.

And do you know why organics persevered? Let me tell you. Earth, as it is in Mass Effect, has 11 billion people on it. Today's Earth, has 7 billion and is considered to be heavily populated. They were starting to colonize Mars when they discovered Prothean tech. This let them travel to the outer rim and find... holy crap... a Mass Relay! This allowed them to expand and de-populate Earth, which by that time is a little more than somewhat industrial slums. The Mass Relays allowed species to avoid over population and fight over basic necessities, like the Drell homeworld. Without Mass Relays, the Galaxy is ****ed. And this isn't rage. This is fridge horror based on knowledge gained from the endings. I'm just waiting for the game to be shipped and the huge ****storm to hit BSN. Bioware knows it's coming, why else would they change site rules and regulations against personal attack against them? Because they know they're gonna get it.

+1

Mass relay tech will keep Civ advances to unlimited strength, especially where 99.9% of galaxy is uncharted. with absence of this technology, means humanity will advance slowly because they can't survive in hostile environments such as Mars. However, nothing comes with no price, as Reapers; who are the creator of this tech; will anihalate all living species that take advantage of their technology. 

[DifferentD17]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Xayoz wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Lol how could it get worse?

I was expecting humanity to be wiped out.

How do you know it's not?

My understanding is that Earth is shown in all endings in three possible states....destroyed, devastated or relatively OK....

If shepard almost dying body lands on Earth wouldn't the Citadel have slamed into Earth? A metor the size of Texas would devastate the  Earth, the Citadel is much bigger.

[concor]

plus if the citadel does end up near earth in theory any wreckage left would be invaluble for tech and such.

[incinerator950]

Yes Shepard survives the crash.

My guess? Mass Effect fields.