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[WizenSlinky0]

The merge ending is cruel.

You're forcing a partially synthetic life on every organic in the galaxy against their will.

[eye basher]

Aramintai wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

Merge makes no sense at at all. Control has Shepard become the Citadel, not immortal. Destroy should kill all Reaper tech but I don't see how it woud kill the Geth. But no matter what you do, the relays are destroyed and the Normandy crash lands on some uncharted world and starts a colony. A-can I hear ya say inbreeding!

There is no NG+ending(files have been mined). No replayability. No difference. The Galaxy is royally ****ed.

But the reapers are defeated and no wipe out will happen again......did you expect this would be easy? Or without a heavy price and consequences?

It's not heavy, it's idiotic. Normandy fate makes no sense at all - it just seems shoehorned to the rest of these crappy endings with a sole purpose to ****** players off.

I don't want a cliche ending i've seen plenty of those in my life but aparently a cliche ending is what everyone wants.

[WOLF_00]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Mass relays don't need to be huge....

.....hint, the conduit was one, made by organics. It would take time to make large ones but starting small is OK.

And no the gallaxy does not die....reapers kept wiping out organics for millions of years every 50,000 years and yet organics kept persevering.....I think you'd be OK if you tried to put your rage aside for a bit and appreciate what IS there.

Do you understand what it takes to build a Mass Relay? The Conduit was created by a civilization with Mass Relays. You think the necessities can be made from the resources locatable in isolated star sytems? It would take centuries, to re-build what was lost. There are several fleets contining large fighting forces just outside of Earth. Somje of those ships are filled with dextro DNA based soldiers. They are not going to last. That cluster is going to be over populated with numbers that would make the Quarian Flotilla gasp in shock.

And do you know why organics persevered? Let me tell you. Earth, as it is in Mass Effect, has 11 billion people on it. Today's Earth, has 7 billion and is considered to be heavily populated. They were starting to colonize Mars when they discovered Prothean tech. This let them travel to the outer rim and find... holy crap... a Mass Relay! This allowed them to expand and de-populate Earth, which by that time is a little more than somewhat industrial slums. The Mass Relays allowed species to avoid over population and fight over basic necessities, like the Drell homeworld. Without Mass Relays, the Galaxy is ****ed. And this isn't rage. This is fridge horror based on knowledge gained from the endings. I'm just waiting for the game to be shipped and the huge ****storm to hit BSN. Bioware knows it's coming, why else would they change site rules and regulations against personal attack against them? Because they know they're gonna get it.

You don't need a mass relay to get to mars....the closest to earth is near pluto so people can move to mars just fine without mass relays....then with help of the prothean technology recovered, may even find more on mars, they'd have time to build mass relays no matter the size.

Nothing I can say will stop your rage but you are just jumping to conclusions that don't make much sense in an effort to make it all seem extremely horrible....you can't so you may as well stop.

How about skipping building mass relay idea and thinking about how did the 1st Civ founded this tech and utilize it to that level? I mean there is shall be alternative tech? 

[TheCreeper]

You know we don't know the full details of the ending so we shouldn't rush to judgment as to what happens to the Citadel and shepard if they survive.

[Darth_Trethon]

TheCreeper wrote...

You know we don't know the full details of the ending so we shouldn't rush to judgment as to what happens to the Citadel and shepard if they survive.

Pretty much this^^

We aren't even certain if all mass relays are destroyed in the Merge and Control endings or just one.

[AkiKishi]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

The merge ending is cruel.

You're forcing a partially synthetic life on every organic in the galaxy against their will.

That is probably the best solution.

They should have had a big referendum. Would you rather be dead or part Organic? 

Modifié par BobSmith101, 01 mars 2012 - 02:28 .

[Unpleasant Implications]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

You don't need a mass relay to get to mars....the closest to earth is near pluto so people can move to mars just fine without mass relays....then with help of the prothean technology recovered, may even find more on mars, they'd have time to build mass relays no matter the size.

Nothing I can say will stop your rage but you are just jumping to conclusions that don't make much sense in an effort to make it all seem extremely horrible....you can't so you may as well stop.

You just missed the point and ignored everything else.  I never said a Mass Relay was needed to get to Mars. I said it was needed to expand into the greater Galaxy to avoid over population.

The Earth would be bad off, several fleets would be in orbit and there'd be no Mass Relays for them to get home. Are you really saying that won't end horribly? They don't have time. They don't have resources. They don't. Have. Hope.

And I said, it's not rage, it's fridge horror based on the endings. The Galaxy, is screwed beyond all reason. It's pretty frickin awful. So no, I won't stop until you take grasp of exactly what happens to Galaxy after the endings.

[hawat333]

Anyone who judges the game from a text summary of the endings before actually playing it though is... well, it's a stupid thing to do. Dumb.

LOTR ended with a ring tossed in the flames.
How lame is that?! Why did you drop the flame into the lava?! It makes no sense!

Of course it doesn't if you don't read the whole story.

[TheCreeper]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

The merge ending is cruel.

You're forcing a partially synthetic life on every organic in the galaxy against their will.

The Merge ending is the most morally dubious for sure. You've ended the divide between Organic and Inorganic life and likely push tech forward a good a deal, at the cost of your life and probably only one relay. At the same time you altered every sentient being in the galaxy without their consent, and you played god in a very major way.

[Unpleasant Implications]

TheCreeper wrote...

You know we don't know the full details of the ending so we shouldn't rush to judgment as to what happens to the Citadel and shepard if they survive.

We do now. Pics and info are leaking from the space copies. It's out there.

[AkiKishi]

hawat333 wrote...

Anyone who judges the game from a text summary of the endings before actually playing it though is... well, it's a stupid thing to do. Dumb.

LOTR ended with a ring tossed in the flames.
How lame is that?! Why did you drop the flame into the lava?! It makes no sense!

Of course it doesn't if you don't read the whole story.

It does not end that way either in the book or the movie.

[TheCreeper]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

You know we don't know the full details of the ending so we shouldn't rush to judgment as to what happens to the Citadel and shepard if they survive.

Pretty much this^^

We aren't even certain if all mass relays are destroyed in the Merge and Control endings or just one.

Personally I think it's just one, kinda silly if it's all the relays in all of them.

[AkiKishi]

Unpleasant Implications wrote...
And I said, it's not rage, it's fridge horror based on the endings. The Galaxy, is screwed beyond all reason. It's pretty frickin awful. So no, I won't stop until you take grasp of exactly what happens to Galaxy after the endings.

But the huge explosion attracted the attention of the "Great Galactic Unicorn" from 2 Galaxies over and it comes along spreading sweetness and light and making it all better.

[Darth_Trethon]

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

You don't need a mass relay to get to mars....the closest to earth is near pluto so people can move to mars just fine without mass relays....then with help of the prothean technology recovered, may even find more on mars, they'd have time to build mass relays no matter the size.

Nothing I can say will stop your rage but you are just jumping to conclusions that don't make much sense in an effort to make it all seem extremely horrible....you can't so you may as well stop.

You just missed the point and ignored everything else.  I never said a Mass Relay was needed to get to Mars. I said it was needed to expand into the greater Galaxy to avoid over population.

The Earth would be bad off, several fleets would be in orbit and there'd be no Mass Relays for them to get home. Are you really saying that won't end horribly? They don't have time. They don't have resources. They don't. Have. Hope.

And I said, it's not rage, it's fridge horror based on the endings. The Galaxy, is screwed beyond all reason. It's pretty frickin awful. So no, I won't stop until you take grasp of exactly what happens to Galaxy after the endings.

LOL....more like what you WISH would happen to the gallaxy just so everyone else would hate the endings like you do and so you could tell everyone how you said so....but you're plain and simply wrong.

I can't convince you because you're blinded by fairly unwarranted assumptions so I'll leave you to your suffering.

[DifferentD17]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

You know we don't know the full details of the ending so we shouldn't rush to judgment as to what happens to the Citadel and shepard if they survive.

Wrong place buddy. This is BSN, some members even cancelled their preorders because they read some info from a thread -_____-

Some people don't want DA2 over again, just saying.

[TheCreeper]

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

You know we don't know the full details of the ending so we shouldn't rush to judgment as to what happens to the Citadel and shepard if they survive.

We do now. Pics and info are leaking from the space copies. It's out there.

Pics and info do not tell the full story, we don't know all the details or the context fully or anything building up to it earlier in the game that might help explain things.

[Tiikay_]

Scandigeek wrote...

Oh come on, cheer up, if Shepard is stranded on the Citadel, then he/she can shop at his/her favorite store for all his/her needs. 

Just choked on my breakfast. XD

[Unpleasant Implications]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

You don't need a mass relay to get to mars....the closest to earth is near pluto so people can move to mars just fine without mass relays....then with help of the prothean technology recovered, may even find more on mars, they'd have time to build mass relays no matter the size.

Nothing I can say will stop your rage but you are just jumping to conclusions that don't make much sense in an effort to make it all seem extremely horrible....you can't so you may as well stop.

You just missed the point and ignored everything else.  I never said a Mass Relay was needed to get to Mars. I said it was needed to expand into the greater Galaxy to avoid over population.

The Earth would be bad off, several fleets would be in orbit and there'd be no Mass Relays for them to get home. Are you really saying that won't end horribly? They don't have time. They don't have resources. They don't. Have. Hope.

And I said, it's not rage, it's fridge horror based on the endings. The Galaxy, is screwed beyond all reason. It's pretty frickin awful. So no, I won't stop until you take grasp of exactly what happens to Galaxy after the endings.

LOL....more like what you WISH would happen to the gallaxy just so everyone else would hate the endings like you do and so you could tell everyone how you said so....but you're plain and simply wrong.

I can't convince you because you're blinded by fairly unwarranted assumptions so I'll leave you to your suffering.

It's funny how you're dismissing me while I constantly de-bunk your claims. Wanna provide a counter-argument, back it up.

[Darth_Trethon]

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

It's funny how you're dismissing me while I constantly de-bunk your claims. Wanna provide a counter-argument, back it up.

Not interested but thanks for asking. I have better things to focus on than a fruitless argument.

Mass Effect technology including relays and space travel still very possible, colonizing Mars & nearby citadel's tech which also conveniently has the prothean made conduit on it for us to study would give us more than enough time to develop it....once developed it mahy take decades to get to a nearby star system, build one there and so on....how do you think the first relays were placed where they are? Surely, slowly and with care.

.....you can try wild assumptions to claim these aren't true but you have nothing to base them on.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 01 mars 2012 - 02:50 .

[Unpleasant Implications]

TheCreeper wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

You know we don't know the full details of the ending so we shouldn't rush to judgment as to what happens to the Citadel and shepard if they survive.

Pretty much this^^

We aren't even certain if all mass relays are destroyed in the Merge and Control endings or just one.

Personally I think it's just one, kinda silly if it's all the relays in all of them.

The relays either explode, release the energy to control the Reapers, by exploding, or cause a massive gentic re-write of all organic and synthetic life, again, by exploding.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Then there's the Destroy ending that wipes out all AI life including the Geth and EDI but Shep can be left stranded in not too different way from the way Master Chief was left stranded at the end of Halo 3......the Reapers are gone forever but at an insanely high price....the death of EDI and the Geth.

Not really

[TheCreeper]

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

You know we don't know the full details of the ending so we shouldn't rush to judgment as to what happens to the Citadel and shepard if they survive.

Pretty much this^^

We aren't even certain if all mass relays are destroyed in the Merge and Control endings or just one.

Personally I think it's just one, kinda silly if it's all the relays in all of them.

The relays either explode, release the energy to control the Reapers, by exploding, or cause a massive gentic re-write of all organic and synthetic life, again, by exploding.

Do we have any proof of this (One relay exploding doesn't mean it happens for all) besides you wanting to assume the worst possible? Because nothing I've seen even from people who played the game says that the relays explode in all the endings.

Edit: One relay explodes in all the endings yes but it merge and control that could easily be explained as the energy was too much for that one but since it sent it to every other relay possible the energy was reduced enough for the other relays to handle.

Modifié par TheCreeper, 01 mars 2012 - 03:01 .

[Unpleasant Implications]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

It's funny how you're dismissing me while I constantly de-bunk your claims. Wanna provide a counter-argument, back it up.

Not interested but thanks for asking. I have better things to focus on than a fruitless argument.

Huh, and here I thought people on BSN either had backbone or gall.

Mass Effect technology including relays and space travel still very possible, colonizing Mars & nearby citadel's tech which also conveniently has the prothean made conduit on it for us to study would give us more than enough time to develop it

Citadel tech is only available in Control. Otherwise, ka-boom!

....once developed it mahy take decades to get to a nearby star system, build one there and so on....how do you think the first relays were placed where they are? Surely, slowly and with care.

The Reapers were immortal machines with plenty of time on their hands. Organics, however, do not.

.....you can try wild assumptions to claim these aren't true but you have nothing to base them on.

I do, but you constantly ignore it. You're overly optimistic.

Modifié par Unpleasant Implications, 01 mars 2012 - 03:03 .

[marstor05]

TheCreeper wrote...

Unpleasant Implications wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

You know we don't know the full details of the ending so we shouldn't rush to judgment as to what happens to the Citadel and shepard if they survive.

Pretty much this^^

We aren't even certain if all mass relays are destroyed in the Merge and Control endings or just one.

Personally I think it's just one, kinda silly if it's all the relays in all of them.

The relays either explode, release the energy to control the Reapers, by exploding, or cause a massive gentic re-write of all organic and synthetic life, again, by exploding.

Do we have any proof of this (One relay exploding doesn't mean it happens for all) besides you wanting to assume the worst possible? Because nothing I've seen even from people who played the game says that the relays explode in all the endings.

You've not seen the vid of the relay network going kapput have you?  (via the galaxy map)