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[HiddenKING]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Have you got a favourite TV show? or anime? whatever it is, how would you feel if suddenly, everyone became gay? You're not homophobic, it is clear you are not, yet if you saw your favourite character suddenly becoming gay, and kissing and dirty dancing with men, you would feel annoyed.

If Ted became gay in How I Met Your Mother, that would actually explain ALOT.

[ToJKa1]

Jerjud45 wrote...

So I wonder, who's the pitcher and who's the catcher?

Don't care for that image at all...

Anyway, glad you guys got your M/M scene.

However as a straight man, i want the F/F scene (with someone else than Liara, that last i heard didn't count as F/F )

[dreman9999]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

It's like there's no artistic merit to this... It's being gay, for the sake of pandering to the gay audience. Not for entertainment, not for art. It's just gay for the sake of gay. And it disgusts me really.

No, being gay doesn't disgust me. It's the reasons behind the inclusion of the gay scenes.

Which are, and I'm quoting off the top of my head here "Entirely OPTIONAL". You'd have to go some ways to get into this path I should assume, and there would be multiple options to abandon ship, as it were.

I really don't see how this sort of content can really offend people unless they're actively looking for something to be offended about. How does this content affect me in any way if I don't seek it? It's not like they have it on the cover, "watch broshep get hot and heavy with another guy!".

Let's all take a step back from the precipice and take a deep breath, then count to 10, then if you still have an opinion as to why optional content offends you, please have better justification than "pandering", it offends the pandas really. *okay that was a little random, but I like really lame puns from time to time.

"Entirely optional"

Let's hope so, my male hawke was constantly getting sexually harassed by Anders in DA2.

"I really don't see how this sort of content can really offend people"

Oh for god's sake. I've said time and time again, it's not the content that offends me. I am NOT homophobic. You just can't read/comprehend.

It's the diminishing quality of writing, animations, and graphics that offend me most. Everyting was basically pitchblack, and I couldn't see the black guy Shep was talking to, it was a pair of eyes, and i'm not exaggerating. it was a pair of floating eyes. Bioware messed with the contrast to hide bad animations and textures.

What also offends me, is the reasoning behind including the gay scene. Like I said, there is NO artistic merit behind it, it is there not to tell a great love sub-story, it's just there, it seems, because we need 50% straight, and then 50% gay.

Have you got a favourite TV show? or anime? whatever it is, how would you feel if suddenly, everyone became gay? You're not homophobic, it is clear you are not, yet if you saw your favourite character suddenly becoming gay, and kissing and dirty dancing with men, you would feel annoyed.

That was optional, too, in DA2. Also, you not getrting the fact that it's not there to be artistic. And It's know were near as bad as you think. It's not like the gay walked in in a stereotypical gay way with an over the top accent and attitude.Frankly, I don't see you having any ground in this complaint.

[Blooddrunk1004]

Im glad it's recieving dislikes.
Sheploo was screwing hot chicks and females in previous games only... now he's suddenly gay.

[dreman9999]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Have you got a favourite TV show? or anime? whatever it is, how would you feel if suddenly, everyone became gay? You're not homophobic, it is clear you are not, yet if you saw your favourite character suddenly becoming gay, and kissing and dirty dancing with men, you would feel annoyed.

You do understand that it's a rpg, and the choice is optional...Meaning it's up to you.

[shepskisaac]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Im glad it's recieving dislikes.
Sheploo was screwing hot chicks and females in previous games only... now he's suddenly gay.

Just quoting so everybody can see it coming out

[Descy_]

LOL, I hope all romance scenes aren't this sh*tty.

Im not talking about it being a gay love scene.

Im talking about how sh*tty it is as a "romance" scene.

[dreman9999]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Im glad it's recieving dislikes.
Sheploo was screwing hot chicks and females in previous games only... now he's suddenly gay.

Optional things are optional.....
Also, it not like we haven't had men who where married with kids go full gay.

[Kilshrek]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

"Entirely optional"

Let's hope so, my male hawke was constantly getting sexually harassed by Anders in DA2.

"I really don't see how this sort of content can really offend people"

Oh for god's sake. I've said time and time again, it's not the content that offends me. I am NOT homophobic. You just can't read/comprehend.

It's the diminishing quality of writing, animations, and graphics that offend me most. Everyting was basically pitchblack, and I couldn't see the black guy Shep was talking to, it was a pair of eyes, and i'm not exaggerating. it was a pair of floating eyes. Bioware messed with the contrast to hide bad animations and textures.

What also offends me, is the reasoning behind including the gay scene. Like I said, there is NO artistic merit behind it, it is there not to tell a great love sub-story, it's just there, it seems, because we need 50% straight, and then 50% gay.

Have you got a favourite TV show? or anime? whatever it is, how would you feel if suddenly, everyone became gay? You're not homophobic, it is clear you are not, yet if you saw your favourite character suddenly becoming gay, and kissing and dirty dancing with men, you would feel annoyed.

Yes, but then I hated Anders in DA 2 anyway. That was more of a character side step.

The second part was more general, because of all the offence going about. If you took offence at the general remark then I'm sorry you feel offended. There's too much of that stuff going about.

The "look" of the scene may be attributed to the way shadows seem to work in ME 3, because the kid scene in the demo had my Shep's face completely blacked out when I had shadows turned off. Hopefully this isn't present in the full PC game. After all, you could see Shep's face just fine.

And, again, optional. If it breaks immersion for you then write up about it, make your feelings heard by Bioware. I don't know how much they'll bother to listen of course, because every time they say the listen to the fans I wonder who exactly they listen to.

FInally, it's completely different to a TV show or any other medium, in that the protagonist is who you choose to portray them as. Now if Castle suddenly said he had the hots for Esposito all along I'd probably burn the TV, because that is story breaking, but Shep coming out as gay is within the allowances of the story in a sense, because the story is what you choose (relatively speaking, apparently we may have another DA 2 on our hands, but a week will tell).


and to those saying Shep was getting it on with space women for the past 2 games, and now all of a sudden he's gay. No he's not! Choosing to boogie with the women is your choice, choosing men is also your choice. You can't say that Shep was all for the ladies in the past 2 games, and then now because you can CHOOSE  to be with a man he's suddenly fully gay. That is just... nonsense. And I suggest you go sit in the naughty corner to think on it before coming back to speak untruths.

Modifié par Kilshrek, 01 mars 2012 - 02:42 .

[N00blet666]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Im glad it's recieving dislikes.
Sheploo was screwing hot chicks and females in previous games only... now he's suddenly gay.

But, thats what your Shepard is doing. Other people's Shepard's could be bi or gay.

[Blooddrunk1004]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Im glad it's recieving dislikes.
Sheploo was screwing hot chicks and females in previous games only... now he's suddenly gay.

Yeah he was screwing hot chicks and females in previous games... if you roleplayed him that way.

You don't understand. In ME3 he suddenly becomes gay, why didn't we recieved any m/m romances in previous games.
Oh wait that's right... the site got flodded with fanboys who wanted nothing more then M/M romances and they got away with it.

Might aswell create another "Fight for the love thread" and convince Bioware to make sausage fest in next ME game without any female romances.

[Kuriiiiiii]

While not a homophobe I dislike this.

I play a male Shepard because I like the idea of a manly man saving the galaxy. I've played with the female Shepard and don't get the same feel. While I know it's tottaly optional I still don't think this scene fits the game, at all.

[AkiKishi]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Im glad it's recieving dislikes.
Sheploo was screwing hot chicks and females in previous games only... now he's suddenly gay.

Well he was straight at the time DA2 was being made. The writer actually said that Shepard is straight and ME3 would not be like DA2.

But like many other things, it turned out to not be the case.

[Darth Death]

ReveurIngenu wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

No, since being straight is common & leads to procreation. Without it, there wouldn't be a you or a me.

Lesbian relationships don't lead to procreation either, yet where were all the complainers when ME2 came out?  Why isn't there anyone complaining about female Shepard's **5** lesbian options in ME3?  Right, lesbian sex is "hot" so its okay, but M/M is unnecessary and just pandering to the gay crowd and should not be included?  Do you people even take the time to think about your arguments?  <_<

You're implying things I didn't say & completely misinterpret my comment. Please take your own advice. 

[android654]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Have you got a favourite TV show? or anime? whatever it is, how would you feel if suddenly, everyone became gay? You're not homophobic, it is clear you are not, yet if you saw your favourite character suddenly becoming gay, and kissing and dirty dancing with men, you would feel annoyed.

If it was LOST and Jack started sleeping with men or Kate started sleeping with women, it would make sense. They're both broken people and it would be less about sex and more about drowning their solitude, so gender matters less and company matters more.

If it was BSG, Kara fits the same bill, so her having sex with women wouldn't be a stretch.

Don't see how this is a cause for discomfort.

[anlk92]

Wait why is Bioware letting these sites post so spoilerific videos? It just seems ridiculous to be so secretive about the game for nearly a year and then the week before release let so much info get out. It's not like the game needed it sales wise or something.

Anyway kudos to Bioware for finally including gay relationships in the game despite how homophobic gaming community apparently is.

[camcon2100]

Kuriiiiiii wrote...

While not a homophobe I dislike this.

I play a male Shepard because I like the idea of a manly man saving the galaxy. I've played with the female Shepard and don't get the same feel. While I know it's tottaly optional I still don't think this scene fits the game, at all.

Then don't do it. What do you people not get about optional. You people say bioware made a canon shep. You are the ones creating a canon straight Shepard. I do not understand what there is you dont understand....

[Sherbet Lemon]

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Im glad it's recieving dislikes.
Sheploo was screwing hot chicks and females in previous games only... now he's suddenly gay.

Yeah he was screwing hot chicks and females in previous games... if you roleplayed him that way.

And yet there people with playthroughs were none of that happened.  I guess when those people turned off their console or computer, Shepard and the "hot ladies" had a fun party without them.  

Modifié par Village Idiot, 01 mars 2012 - 02:45 .

[SinnSly]

ReveurIngenu wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

No, since being straight is common & leads to procreation. Without it, there wouldn't be a you or a me.

Lesbian relationships don't lead to procreation either, yet where were all the complainers when ME2 came out?  Why isn't there anyone complaining about female Shepard's **5** lesbian options in ME3?  Right, lesbian sex is "hot" so its okay, but M/M is unnecessary and just pandering to the gay crowd and should not be included?  Do you people even take the time to think about your arguments?  <_<

Thank you, someone who finally understands

I find it sickening to see that two women are acceptable together cause thye are 'hot' while two men aren't, it is just plain pathetic, I really am losing hope in humanity with all this crap lol

Dude jsut to say you are awesome, thank you for saying that! 

[dreman9999]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

PresidentCowboy wrote...

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Im glad it's recieving dislikes.
Sheploo was screwing hot chicks and females in previous games only... now he's suddenly gay.

Yeah he was screwing hot chicks and females in previous games... if you roleplayed him that way.

You don't understand. In ME3 he suddenly becomes gay, why didn't we recieved any m/m romances in previous games.
Oh wait that's right... the site got flodded with fanboys who wanted nothing more then M/M romances and they got away with it.

Might aswell create another "Fight for the love thread" and convince Bioware to make sausage fest in next ME game without any female romances.

Think about this way....There been many cases that a man would marry a woman and have a family with her.....And then go out of the closest and leave her.
It's a case of social stigma that causes this. Theplayer can easily make their own reason why this happens. In the end, it is optional, so there is no point in quetioning it.

[ElitePinecone]

Kuriiiiiii wrote...
While I know it's tottaly optional

You just answered your own complaint.

If you seriously have problems with optional content that you'll never use, but other people appreciate, I think you're abusing your privilege. 

[dreman9999]

Kuriiiiiii wrote...

While not a homophobe I dislike this.

I play a male Shepard because I like the idea of a manly man saving the galaxy. I've played with the female Shepard and don't get the same feel. While I know it's tottaly optional I still don't think this scene fits the game, at all.

But that's how you play your Shepard. Not evenryone need to play the game your way.

[Toonmanpwnsu]

Earth is in danger of getting eradicated...................but, let me bang this dude first. Gotta get my nut off.