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[Hunter of Legends]

Il Divo wrote...

jmood88 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

jmood88 wrote...

even the "Holy Grail of Video Games" (Mass Effect 1)

You misspelled "KOTOR"

Most of the people on here seem to have never played it. I only ever see references to Mass Effect 1 when reading about Bioware's supposed downfall.

Eh, more than you might think have made it through the series. This is Bioware after all. Personally, it's my holy grail of Bioware games.

KotOR fan reporting for duty!

Bioware still delivers in my books.

[Hunter of Legends]

Il Divo wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

kotor 3 please? 

Ouch, way too soon.

I WANTED KOTOR 3

[addiction21]

Il Divo wrote...

jmood88 wrote...

KOTOR is what got me into RPG's so it's up there in the pantheon of games for me.

Likewise. I was 13 when I first played it. And coincedentally it's my favorite Bioware game. It's difficult to tell how much nostalgia is impacting my judgment on that front, but it still remains in my top 5 games of all time.

Your all wrong it is Shattered Steel and I am still outraged BioWare stabbed their true and original fans in the back to make RPGs. Ewww nerds who do math all day and enjoy spreadsheet gaming.

/Sarcasim

Think I will wait till I have a few playthrus going to see how the conversations really stack up.

[Matt VT Schlo]

Guess the Reapers invaded the game and took out the RPG mode for real

[Nizzemancer]

android654 wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...

According to a vid I saw on ign yesterday you get more options in dialogue if you've made an import as opposed to if you're starting out with ME3.

A poor excuse, especially since a new game still has a protagonist who has a history of two games even if the player hasn't played them.

except people who buy only the third game in a trilogy don't give a **** about details like that...

[Squallypo]

Il Divo wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

kotor 3 please? 

Ouch, way too soon.

way too soon? when did kotor 2 was released?..just because The old Republic mmorpg shows some stuff about the old kotor games doesnt has to make a connection exactly thew the single player games. although they forced it to be that way yet again its not exactly like that. 

Sorry, should have been more clear. With TOR released, the likelihood of KotOR 3 is looking minimal. I was saying "too soon" to think about the pain.

 

i still has hope for kotor 3 yes i still do after so many years. 

[tez19]

DarthShadow13 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Yup it looks like Bioware are ditching what made them great and becoming another generic FLASHY BANG action game developer. Bioware in steep decline.

I highly doubt that you have any idea what made Bioware great in that pathetic mind of yours.

Reported. Unacceptable personal attack under the new forum rules.

Are you just trying to get people pissed off so you can report them? Because that is sorta what it looks like.

Nope just stating my opinion, but unfortunately if you are not a Biodrone on this board you are seen as scum.

Reported for an unwanted attack.

Who was i attacking? Which person was i referring to? No one in particular at all. Fail by you i am afraid.

[Hunter of Legends]

tez19 wrote...

DarthShadow13 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Yup it looks like Bioware are ditching what made them great and becoming another generic FLASHY BANG action game developer. Bioware in steep decline.

I highly doubt that you have any idea what made Bioware great in that pathetic mind of yours.

Reported. Unacceptable personal attack under the new forum rules.

Are you just trying to get people pissed off so you can report them? Because that is sorta what it looks like.

Nope just stating my opinion, but unfortunately if you are not a Biodrone on this board you are seen as scum.

Reported for an unwanted attack.

Who was i attacking? Which person was i referring to? No one in particular at all. Fail by you i am afraid.

You're attacking the whole community.

[tez19]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

tez19 wrote...

DarthShadow13 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Yup it looks like Bioware are ditching what made them great and becoming another generic FLASHY BANG action game developer. Bioware in steep decline.

I highly doubt that you have any idea what made Bioware great in that pathetic mind of yours.

Reported. Unacceptable personal attack under the new forum rules.

Are you just trying to get people pissed off so you can report them? Because that is sorta what it looks like.

Nope just stating my opinion, but unfortunately if you are not a Biodrone on this board you are seen as scum.

Reported for an unwanted attack.

Who was i attacking? Which person was i referring to? No one in particular at all. Fail by you i am afraid.

You're attacking the whole community.

Nope, just most of it, and i don't see how that is personal at all. However them falsely reporting me is a personal attack and bullying, so i have reported them too.

[android654]

Nizzemancer wrote...

android654 wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...

According to a vid I saw on ign yesterday you get more options in dialogue if you've made an import as opposed to if you're starting out with ME3.

A poor excuse, especially since a new game still has a protagonist who has a history of two games even if the player hasn't played them.

except people who buy only the third game in a trilogy don't give a **** about details like that...

The players don't write the story, the writers do. so any lack of story falls to the writers not the new players.

[Hunter of Legends]

tez19 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

tez19 wrote...

DarthShadow13 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Yup it looks like Bioware are ditching what made them great and becoming another generic FLASHY BANG action game developer. Bioware in steep decline.

I highly doubt that you have any idea what made Bioware great in that pathetic mind of yours.

Reported. Unacceptable personal attack under the new forum rules.

Are you just trying to get people pissed off so you can report them? Because that is sorta what it looks like.

Nope just stating my opinion, but unfortunately if you are not a Biodrone on this board you are seen as scum.

Reported for an unwanted attack.

Who was i attacking? Which person was i referring to? No one in particular at all. Fail by you i am afraid.

You're attacking the whole community.

Nope, just most of it, and i don't see how that is personal at all. However them falsely reporting me is a personal attack and bullying, so i have reported them too.

Threatning people with "reported" is a form of aggresion.

Most moderators/staff will repremand you for doing it. That button isn't there to be you're own personal weapon of intimidation; it's a tool to better the community and help moderate.

[Hunter of Legends]

android654 wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...

android654 wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...

According to a vid I saw on ign yesterday you get more options in dialogue if you've made an import as opposed to if you're starting out with ME3.

A poor excuse, especially since a new game still has a protagonist who has a history of two games even if the player hasn't played them.

except people who buy only the third game in a trilogy don't give a **** about details like that...

The players don't write the story, the writers do. so any lack of story falls to the writers not the new players.

Here's a better explanation

because loyal fans will complain they didn't get any treatment.

Saavy?

[AlexXIV]

Actually if the game had only 2 choices every time and they actually mattered/led to different results then we'd already have more than ever before. Honeslty, I don't really need 3 or more options if I just get the same answer thing. It's called the 'illusion of choice'. While fine at times, it is getting frustrating if you keep clicking options and try to do something different just to realize what you did first time was the only thing you could have done anyway.

[Hunter of Legends]

AlexXIV wrote...

Actually if the game had only 2 choices every time and they actually mattered/led to different results then we'd already have more than ever before. Honeslty, I don't really need 3 or more options if I just get the same answer thing. It's called the 'illusion of choice'. While fine at times, it is getting frustrating if you keep clicking options and try to do something different just to realize what you did first time was the only thing you could have done anyway.

There is no "Illusion of choice" In ME3.

One choice has a MASSIVE impact for a whole species fate; several others take more choices but get similar results.

[Kidd]

Wulfram wrote...

And romances shouldn't just be about whether you're in or out.  Even if it's just the option to be either flirty or heartfelt in saying "yes", it's still valuable.

I agree. I loved how in LotSB, you could either tease Liara ("Make me an offer") or be romantic ("Done"). Both did the same thing in the end, had the same effect game-wise... but it truly showed a difference in how your Shep was as a person.

[AlexXIV]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Actually if the game had only 2 choices every time and they actually mattered/led to different results then we'd already have more than ever before. Honeslty, I don't really need 3 or more options if I just get the same answer thing. It's called the 'illusion of choice'. While fine at times, it is getting frustrating if you keep clicking options and try to do something different just to realize what you did first time was the only thing you could have done anyway.

There is no "Illusion of choice" In ME3.

One choice has a MASSIVE impact for a whole species fate; several others take more choices but get similar results.

As it should be.

[Hunter of Legends]

AlexXIV wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Actually if the game had only 2 choices every time and they actually mattered/led to different results then we'd already have more than ever before. Honeslty, I don't really need 3 or more options if I just get the same answer thing. It's called the 'illusion of choice'. While fine at times, it is getting frustrating if you keep clicking options and try to do something different just to realize what you did first time was the only thing you could have done anyway.

There is no "Illusion of choice" In ME3.

One choice has a MASSIVE impact for a whole species fate; several others take more choices but get similar results.

As it should be.

Those who worried about choice need not worry in ME3...

there are deep effects to certain choices.

[Chuvvy]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Actually if the game had only 2 choices every time and they actually mattered/led to different results then we'd already have more than ever before. Honeslty, I don't really need 3 or more options if I just get the same answer thing. It's called the 'illusion of choice'. While fine at times, it is getting frustrating if you keep clicking options and try to do something different just to realize what you did first time was the only thing you could have done anyway.

There is no "Illusion of choice" In ME3.

One choice has a MASSIVE impact for a whole species fate; several others take more choices but get similar results.

As it should be.

Those who worried about choice need not worry in ME3...

there are deep effects to certain choices.

If by "deep effect" you mean one arc plays out a little differently, then yeah.

[android654]

Slidell505 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Actually if the game had only 2 choices every time and they actually mattered/led to different results then we'd already have more than ever before. Honeslty, I don't really need 3 or more options if I just get the same answer thing. It's called the 'illusion of choice'. While fine at times, it is getting frustrating if you keep clicking options and try to do something different just to realize what you did first time was the only thing you could have done anyway.

There is no "Illusion of choice" In ME3.

One choice has a MASSIVE impact for a whole species fate; several others take more choices but get similar results.

As it should be.

Those who worried about choice need not worry in ME3...

there are deep effects to certain choices.

If by "deep effect" you mean one arc plays out a little differently, then yeah.

They clearly made decisions in this chapter that override your earlier ones, so there's no reason to assume that now they'll remove that.

So we're no longer discussing the quality of the writing?

[DarthCaine]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

There is no "Illusion of choice" In ME3.

One choice has a MASSIVE impact for a whole species fate; several others take more choices but get similar results.

Massive impact =/= different cutscene. Having a button that kills every spieces that only results in a something like a different text epilogue, isn't really an impact.

Massive impact would include alternative quests, different characters etc (like The Witcher 2). The fact that an entire species is wiped out makes no difference to me since there's barely any actual ingame gameplay consequences.

The fact that you KNOW they're wiped out isn't really an impact since there's no ingame content about that.
Take KOTOR for example. The major choice is made in the last half hour of the game. Whether you become ruler or savior of the galaxy makes no difference since besides a different cutscene, there's no ingame gameplay consequences

Modifié par DarthCaine, 01 mars 2012 - 06:43 .

[Justicar]

So, Xiosite says, 3 is the norm for conversation options?

Link?

I guess it's full of spoilers lol

[AkiKishi]

Had KOTOR 2 been finished as planned it would have changed video gaming history.

As I said in the other thread, just because I don't want to be a Paragon in that conversation it does not mean I want to be a dick.

[best_eva]

DarthCaine wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

There is no "Illusion of choice" In ME3.

One choice has a MASSIVE impact for a whole species fate; several others take more choices but get similar results.

Massive impact =/= different cutscene. Having a button that kills every spieces that only results in a something like a different text epilogue, isn't really an impact.

Massive impact would include alternative quests, different characters etc. The fact that an entire species is wiped out makes no difference to me since there's barely any actual ingame gameplay consequences.

The fact that you KNOW they're wiped out isn't really an impact since there's nothing ingame about that.
Take KOTOR for example. The major choice is made in the last half hour of the game. Whether you become ruler or savior of the galaxy makes no difference since besides a different cutscene, there's no ingame gameplay consequences

damn it you're that ****** ****** that had that stupid ass south park avatar aren't you?  I'm sad now I thought you were gone/dead. 

[Hunter of Legends]

Slidell505 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Actually if the game had only 2 choices every time and they actually mattered/led to different results then we'd already have more than ever before. Honeslty, I don't really need 3 or more options if I just get the same answer thing. It's called the 'illusion of choice'. While fine at times, it is getting frustrating if you keep clicking options and try to do something different just to realize what you did first time was the only thing you could have done anyway.

There is no "Illusion of choice" In ME3.

One choice has a MASSIVE impact for a whole species fate; several others take more choices but get similar results.

As it should be.

Those who worried about choice need not worry in ME3...

there are deep effects to certain choices.

If by "deep effect" you mean one arc plays out a little differently, then yeah.

Certain endings as well.

You're not gonna have a completely different game for crying out loud.