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[Seboist]

xsdob wrote...

You bunch of cynical whiners are condemning a game that you haven't even played yet because you read a bare-boned rough draft script and have seen only 3 out of the seven endings of the game, with no context to put them in, as a man on horizon once said.

"I'm done with you alliance types."

Some Clint Mansell music,voiced dialogue and early 00s console graphics aren't going to improve the story's quality. Sorry bub.

[Rob_K1]

Seboist wrote...

xsdob wrote...

You bunch of cynical whiners are condemning a game that you haven't even played yet because you read a bare-boned rough draft script and have seen only 3 out of the seven endings of the game, with no context to put them in, as a man on horizon once said.

"I'm done with you alliance types."

Some Clint Mansell music,voiced dialogue and early 00s console graphics aren't going to improve the story's quality. Sorry bub.

Err yeah, about those early 2000 graphics, they really look like this?

http://www.gog.com/e...rade_redemption

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/evolva

http://www.gog.com/e...card/painkiller

I really love it when people make false claims, even if they are exaggerating.

Not going to touch the rest, as it's subjective. And I think this is my cue to get off the forums. Don't expect me to reply.

[Necroscope]

BTW, because some ppl say that ME3 ending(s) is/are (doesn't really matter, since they're all alikie) similiar to Matrix Rev.

Well, at least Neo's n Trinity's sacrifice serves a reason - Zion is saved, the humanity to be released from the system, many liked characters (i.e. Morpheus) are still alive n together.

No what are we fighting for in ME3 (?):

- many home planets in ruins,
- galactic community destroed,
- your LI and friends left to their doom in The Happy Colony of Incest (Tali & Garrus will obviously die of thirst or/and hunger; oh, and there is a lesbian aboard - you know what I mean)
- NONE of your efforts make any sense (why finding a cure for geno****ium or accommodate geth n quarians?)

Why not just lie and fu***n die, that would be like 10x better ending...!? I mean, I would prefer to see Shepard and his whole crew dead if that would serve any matter worth dying for.

Thanks Bioware, thanks for DA2, Deception and now this DISGUSTING ending! Since Wrex uses a quote from Josey Wales ("Don't ****** down my back and tell me it's raining") I REALLY hope that players will serve you the Missouri Boat Ride ()...

[Johnnycide]

Necroscope wrote...

BTW, because some ppl say that ME3 ending(s) is/are (doesn't really matter, since they're all alikie) similiar to Matrix Rev.

Well, at least Neo's n Trinity's sacrifice serves a reason - Zion is saved, the humanity to be released from the system, many liked characters (i.e. Morpheus) are still alive n together.

No what are we fighting for in ME3 (?):

- many home planets in ruins,
- galactic community destroed,
- your LI and friends left to their doom in The Happy Colony of Incest (Tali & Garrus will obviously die of thirst or/and hunger; oh, and there is a lesbian aboard - you know what I mean)
- NONE of your efforts make any sense (why finding a cure for geno****ium or accommodate geth n quarians?)

Why not just lie and fu***n die, that would be like 10x better ending...!? I mean, I would prefer to see Shepard and his whole crew dead if that would serve any matter worth dying for.

Thanks Bioware, thanks for DA2, Deception and now this DISGUSTING ending! Since Wrex uses a quote from Josey Wales ("Don't ****** down my back and tell me it's raining") I REALLY hope that players will serve you the Missouri Boat Ride ()...

Actually they're almost litterally cut and paste plagarized from Deus Ex Machina.

[Unit-Alpha]

Guys, back on topic, or Woo's gonna shut this one down, too. And it has so much potential...

[Johnnycide]

Ok my favorite quote:

"Numerically, it's over 1,000 variables that we'll have access to for shaping the Mass Effect 3 experience for people who've played the previous games," Bioware's Casey Hudson told PC Zone magazine.

[MrAtomica]

xsdob wrote...

You bunch of cynical whiners are condemning a game that you haven't even played yet because you read a bare-boned rough draft script and have seen only 3 out of the seven endings of the game, with no context to put them in, as a man on horizon once said.

"I'm done with you alliance types."

Those "7" endings are actually 3, with multiple variations for 2 of those 3. Of those 7 variations, only 1 culminates in Shepard surviving. None of them allow him to reunite with his crew, or his ship.

All of them screw the galaxy back to the dark ages. All of them likely result in infighting between ravaged people's trying to scrounge together a meagre existence.

Choice is a formality only between the endings. Like DA2, decisions are not taken into much consideration for which option you pick. Nor does all of the work you put into completing everything and getting the highest GaW score matter.

Call me "cynical", "whiny", "pathetic", etc. But you are still misinformed.

As for the OT, I have no specific quote to contribute. I do, however, enjoy reading anything about how many variables they had to account for, and how there will be many divergent endings, since this is the end of the trilogy and all. That was comforting, at least until I read the spoilers. <_<

Modifié par MrAtomica, 01 mars 2012 - 08:44 .

[Aramintai]

OP, I like your thread alot. It made me laugh out loud
:happy: 
I also laughed when I remembered this old tweet:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/7631064/6

Modifié par Aramintai, 01 mars 2012 - 08:50 .

[Geirahod]

Aramintai wrote...

OP, I like your thread alot. It made me laugh out loud
:happy: 
I also laughed when I remembered this old tweet:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/7631064/6

"We've got you covered" 

Modifié par Geirahod, 01 mars 2012 - 08:54 .

[Darth Malice113]

D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...

Holy crap.....

I understand why some developers use certain phrases to hype up a game or hide the truth but they just straight up lied in certain areas... LOL

Pretty much.

I do hope the end of the world IRL will be this lulz worthy.

[Seboist]

Rob_K1 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

xsdob wrote...

You bunch of cynical whiners are condemning a game that you haven't even played yet because you read a bare-boned rough draft script and have seen only 3 out of the seven endings of the game, with no context to put them in, as a man on horizon once said.

"I'm done with you alliance types."

Some Clint Mansell music,voiced dialogue and early 00s console graphics aren't going to improve the story's quality. Sorry bub.

Err yeah, about those early 2000 graphics, they really look like this?

http://www.gog.com/e...rade_redemption

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/evolva

http://www.gog.com/e...card/painkiller

I really love it when people make false claims, even if they are exaggerating.

Not going to touch the rest, as it's subjective. And I think this is my cue to get off the forums. Don't expect me to reply.

The Xbox 360 was released in '05 and was in-development prior to that but thanks for playing.

[KMYash]

ManyDeadCats wrote...[*]"It's going to make some people extremely happy. It's going to make some people angry. But that's part of it, right? To invoke the emotion putting some of these stories to bed will naturally bring up.

Somehow I'm starting to think that wasn't a rhetorical question.<_<

[MrAtomica]

D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...

Holy crap.....

I understand why some developers use certain phrases to hype up a game or hide the truth but they just straight up lied in certain areas... LOL

Eh, they'll just chalk it all up to "Marketing" or "PR promises". Even though many of the quotes come from the actual developers.

But hey, if politicians can do it every election cycle, others can do the same.

[lrrose]

From what I read in the leaks, your choices in previous games matter quite a bit. The genophage cure, geth-quarian conflict, rachni (though it doesn't look like it at first glance), even the DLCs change things. So that's not really a lie.

Modifié par lrrose, 01 mars 2012 - 09:03 .

[MrAtomica]

lrrose wrote...

From what I read in the leaks, your choices in previous games matter quite a bit. The genophage cure, geth-quarian conflict, rachni (though it doesn't look like it at first glance), even the DLCs change things. So that's not really a lie.

That's certainly a valid loophole.

But it doesn't change the fact that the culmination of the series does not reflect choices or preparedness. Not to the extent that it should, at least.

[GBGriffin]

lrrose wrote...

From what I read in the leaks, your choices in previous games matter quite a bit. The genophage cure, geth-quarian conflict, rachni (though it doesn't look like it at first glance), even the DLCs change things. So that's not really a lie.

My mentality at this stage is: so what?

Really, the ending just sort of renders all decisions irrelevant if they all converge on a central theme that basically shafts the characters you've been groomed to care about. So what if I save these species if I basically shaft the only ones I truly care about? To me, Grunt and Wrex are the signature Krogans, Tali the Quarian, Liara and Samara the Asari, etc...

So what if I get to make all these choices if they're just going to produce the same, relatively dark and dreadful outcome. It literally becomes a matter of "What color explosion would you like to see, and who do you want as the founders of your incestual colony?"

Modifié par GBGriffin, 01 mars 2012 - 09:10 .

[Aramintai]

lrrose wrote...

From what I read in the leaks, your choices in previous games matter quite a bit. The genophage cure, geth-quarian conflict, rachni (though it doesn't look like it at first glance), even the DLCs change things. So that's not really a lie.

The only problem with those choices is that they don't mean **** in the end - you're gonna get screwed either way, and there is no option for Reapers to win even if you have made a bad choice or haven't played DLC.

[Dr. rotinaj]

My favourite quote is in my sig. I'm never going to forget that piece of crap statement.

[golyoscsapagy]

fivefingaslap18 wrote...

golyoscsapagy wrote...

What about people who actually like the endings and are not really into pixellated girls/boys/hermaphrodites?

Does anyone see a problem with the last word in his sentence? It sounds downright hateful to me.

You are interpreting it then wrong. Hermaphrodite is something which has both male and female reproduction organs. Like snails. Or technically asari (if I'm not mistaken even the codex describes them as hermaphrodites). Not everything that has boobs is female you know. Or you the kind of person who takes offense from everly greek word?

KBomb wrote...

golyoscsapagy wrote...

What about people who actually like the endings and are not really into pixellated girls/boys/hermaphrodites?

 
Honestly, does it have to be a LI for you to care what happens to them? They are your squadmates. You have spent two games recruiting them, helping them sort out personal issues, etc. I don't have to romance Ashley or Liara to understand that turning them into broodmares is messed up. You don't have to romance Tali to understand it's messed up to know she'll die a slow death from starvation or a painful one from some infection.


It's okay if you like the endings. I think that is great. You've spent a lot of time and effort on this game and I am happy you're getting pay-off. We have spent a lot of the same time and effort. Some of us would rather not have space magic, harems, a choice between “Bad, Really bad, so-so bad and a little okay” and a planet brimming with the family from Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Some of us just want a well-rounded ending that at least makes sense and offers some pay-off. You know, so we can like the endings, too.

That's why I said I perfectly understand if you want more endings. Right now all I see everywhere is 'the endings are crap'. No, they are not, or at least not for everyone (can't even tell who is the majority anyway). The endings perfectly makes sense. A 'let's ride to the sunset in our robotic horse darling' kind of ending wouldn't make any.

The whole series were about hard choices. This is one as well. It only happens to be the last.

Modifié par golyoscsapagy, 01 mars 2012 - 09:14 .

[Dr. rotinaj]

D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...
o_O... wOW

Wow indeed. It's not even funny. 
http://m.ign.com/articles/1211270 

Modifié par Dr. rotinaj, 01 mars 2012 - 09:20 .

[GBGriffin]

golyoscsapagy wrote...

That's why I said I perfectly understand if you want more endings. Right now all I see everywhere is 'the endings are crap'. No, they are not, or at least not for everyone (can't even tell who is the majority anyway). The endings perfectly makes sense. A 'let's ride to the sunset in our robotic horse darling' kind of ending wouldn't make any.

The whole series were about hard choices. This is one as well. It only happens to be the last.

Except you don't really have a choice to save the Mass Relays or your crew. It happens regardless. Two of the biggest elements in the closing happen whether you want them to or not, things that could easily have been shaped by "hard choices". As stated before, the only real choices are: what color explosion do you want to see, and who will found your incestual colony?

Want to blow yup your crew and get everyone killed? Fine with me. I don't. If anything, I'd like them to be marooned together, since the whole series is basically teaching you to invest in these characters. Hell, at this point, I'd rather them get blown up together than suffer the Gilligan's Island fate. Also, with 7 shades of bad ending, why is a slightly more positive one so much to ask for? Let people keep their 7 doom and gloom endings, just give one "good" one.

As for them making "sense"....did you read the parts about "space magic"? How the Normandy just "happened to be passing by" the Charon relay? They don't seme to make any effort to explain how or why they're even by the Charon relay when the final battle is taking place on Earth. That's just poor writing.