I don't really care anymore about the Vanguard issue. One game I literally just hid behind cover, drank tea and let them do everthing. When they died, I finished off the rest. Easy credits.
To everyone raging about vanguard stealing their kills, please note
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#52
Posté 02 mars 2012 - 08:10
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I don't care what they are, as long as we win in the end, and most of all, I really enjoy a 'Full Extraction' - Have tried all classes, but have to say I don't have a favorite. I just enjoy it ... it's all for fun and having a god time - right?
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#53
Posté 02 mars 2012 - 08:18
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Stardusk78 wrote...
I don't really care anymore about the Vanguard issue. One game I literally just hid behind cover, drank tea and let them do everthing. When they died, I finished off the rest. Easy credits.
"When they died...". You say this as if it was inevitable that a Vanguard will die yet sure if you had helped out a bit they would have survived
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Posté 02 mars 2012 - 09:02
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OutlawBlue9 wrote...
Stardusk78 wrote...
I don't really care anymore about the Vanguard issue. One game I literally just hid behind cover, drank tea and let them do everthing. When they died, I finished off the rest. Easy credits.
"When they died...". You say this as if it was inevitable that a Vanguard will die yet sure if you had helped out a bit they would have survived
Aggressively played Vanguards do have a high statistical chance to face the dirty ground because they're obviously proportionally in the line of fire. Only the very best Vanguards can play aggressively and not die during the whole match, this goes double for Gold difficulty.
That said, the "easy credits" part makes me believe the Vanguards did at least a good enough job, making this more of a compliment than any other sort of comment, at least in my eyes. Though knowing Stardusks skill in playing the game and the likelyhood this game was on silver because only very few people ever on Gold with such a set-up and then not go revive their supposedly known friends does also open up the possibility he simply solo'ed whatever rest was alive and still considered it easy credits.
Can't know for sure.
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Posté 02 mars 2012 - 09:10
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exskeeny wrote...
as long as you're killing people and the mission succeeds I'm a happy man.
This as long as we're working towards the same goal I don't care. If your dting constantly however I will stop rezzing you. It's a pain to run across the map rez someone, then have them die again across the map as if they're just trying to get themselves killed off.
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Posté 02 mars 2012 - 09:13
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The problem isn't vanguards stealing kills, the problem is vanguards (and krogans) trying to charge Guardians. You can't hurt them with that, jackass, and I had a perfect headshot lined up through the slit of the shield.
If I charge a guardian, it's because there's no other enemy around I can recharge my barriers with, thank you very much. Just wait a second, I'll move aside and turn him around for you.
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Posté 02 mars 2012 - 09:27
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The problem isn't vanguards stealing kills, the problem is vanguards (and krogans) trying to charge Guardians. You can't hurt them with that, jackass, and I had a perfect headshot lined up through the slit of the shield.
En contraire my fellow, charging a Guardian on even ground causes them to stagger and bashes their shield to the side. Enough time and space to put one or two shots in on them, a clean headshot from even the Scimitar will turn their heads into chunky salsa and what's left is a very dead Guardian. Now, the Scimitar can get a second shot in, just to make sure. And imagine the result of a Katana or a Claymore shot.
Guardians are perfectly killable by a Vanguard charge, which means my dear fellow, you know squat about Vanguard play.
Just don't try it on uneven ground, because if you don't hit them on even ground, they have a high chance to NOT stagger and just melee you (not that a good Vanguard couldn't exploit that too, but it's suboptimal a choice.
As for Krogans, their melee causes Guardians to stagger too, though the long animation from their heavy melee renders them unable to exploit that openeing. Their standard melee (headbutt) however does also have a very high chance of staggering them and then follow up with an attack, same as the Vanguard charge.
Same as above, don't talk nonsense if you obviously know little enough about the game mechanics.
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 08:07
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Makes me laugh when I see other players leave after 6 waves because they cannot set themselves up to kill anything. I only commit my time to having 3 classes at max levels (Asari adept, infiltrator, and vanguard) and honestly out of all 3, my vanguard is almost as close to god mode as my always invisible infiltrator. And to the other players with a good vanguard build, they can understand how much fun it is to see enemies fly and fall off the map as you charge and nova them (triple kill assault troopers!) and then explode guardian faces in one shot as they stagger. Most times I will make more than 50% of all kills/points in the game as my vanguard because that’s just how the build runs.. constant biotic powers is what keeps me alive. When I see phantoms I kill them first, turrets second and atlases last. Everything else gets caught up in the massive biocharge, nova, shooting frenzy explosion and literally nothing survives..
So sorry to everyone that can’t stand having a high level vanguard on the team that have that certain build. But I have had teammates that Hate sooo much (or just jelly) that they would only shoot at me and ignore the other enemies around us cause he’s mad. When you get downed by enemies near you cause you were too pissed at this vanguard, it’s usually me that comes charging in to save you before they stomp your face in. As a vanguard I play it smart and on bronze I don’t purposely kill steal, but instead I purposely go on a killing massacre, cause that’s how they work on that difficulty (on silver and gold definitely play it smarter). It is boring to solo but on a team, why not go crazy and have a game last less than 15 minutes with 15k credits on bronze. Or about 20 minutes with 36k on silver.
So sorry to everyone that can’t stand having a high level vanguard on the team that have that certain build. But I have had teammates that Hate sooo much (or just jelly) that they would only shoot at me and ignore the other enemies around us cause he’s mad. When you get downed by enemies near you cause you were too pissed at this vanguard, it’s usually me that comes charging in to save you before they stomp your face in. As a vanguard I play it smart and on bronze I don’t purposely kill steal, but instead I purposely go on a killing massacre, cause that’s how they work on that difficulty (on silver and gold definitely play it smarter). It is boring to solo but on a team, why not go crazy and have a game last less than 15 minutes with 15k credits on bronze. Or about 20 minutes with 36k on silver.
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 08:11
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There's a scoreboard
I want to be at the top.
Vanguards get in the way of that.
End of Story. I could give less of a **** about XP sharing. I just want to see my name at the top with my 5 gold medals.
I want to be at the top.
Vanguards get in the way of that.
End of Story. I could give less of a **** about XP sharing. I just want to see my name at the top with my 5 gold medals.
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 08:15
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Seems like Butthead11 is a little bit *puts on shades* butthurt.
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 08:16
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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Seems like Butthead11 is a little bit *puts on shades* butthurt.
This is the first time i've heard that one.
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 08:21
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Yeah, didn't think so too, but it was just asking for it. Your nickname jst hang there together wit this comment and literally BEGGED me to write this.
Sorry, but I simply couldn't resist (also the reason I didn't put the YEEAAAH!!! in there myself).
Sorry, but I simply couldn't resist (also the reason I didn't put the YEEAAAH!!! in there myself).
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 08:42
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Real Infiltrators headshot the Vanguard's charge target after Nova, and then go res the Vanguard for more medals and exp!
What?
What?
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 08:45
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Doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the people who Biotic Charge and then spam Nova into a group of people knowing that they will get a lot of kills but die somewhere stupid as a trade off. I generally as a rule of thumb leave Vanguards to die if they can't channel the aggression of the class properly, either that or hop onto my Krogan Soldier and show the what a REAL charge looks like
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 08:46
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mysticforce42 wrote...
Real Infiltrators headshot the Vanguard's charge target after Nova, and then go res the Vanguard for more medals and exp!
What?
No, Real Infiltrators are Salarian STG and rock a shotgun headshot machine spec and use proximity mines as a grenade launcher with incredible force!
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 08:46
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This is a team based mode people! It doesnt matter cause your just gonna play another match and forget about it lol
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 08:47
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mysticforce42 wrote...
Real Infiltrators headshot the Vanguard's charge target after Nova, and then go res the Vanguard for more medals and exp!
What?
If it works .... and that's coming from a Vanguard player.
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 08:47
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generaly when ever i pop my asari stasis buble there is nothing i enjoy more then seeing a vangard charging what ever i traped inside cause it mean a hudge boom and lost of dead enemies
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 08:48
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TAIM2DAI wrote...
Doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the people who Biotic Charge and then spam Nova into a group of people knowing that they will get a lot of kills but die somewhere stupid as a trade off. I generally as a rule of thumb leave Vanguards to die if they can't channel the aggression of the class properly, either that or hop onto my Krogan Soldier and show the what a REAL charge looks like
There are stupid people tha tplay Krogan's as well, and they die in the same manner.
Anyone, regardless of class, that dies in a place that would risk the team getting wiped in order to raise them gets left for dead. Or they can pop their own medigel. Their call.
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 09:11
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twister87 wrote...
I like playing infiltrator. Cloaking is a vital ability, particularly in gold matches, and not just for zipping in and out for damage bonuses. If someone goes down (unless I'm fulfilling an objective), you can guarantee that I'll hit cloak and run like hell to whoever went down to pick them up. I like being able to do that and it's good for the team.
And I totally understand the vanguard mechanic - they will be charging everywhere, and that sometimes they are gonna go down. I don't care. As long as they play well and we win, that's fine with me. I don't know why people get so pissy about ressing others. I get great personal satisfaction out of it. As for kill stealing, it doesn't matter, you'll get the same xp as everyone in the end. It's a TEAM game.
Probably a very rose-tinted view but hey, I'm that kind of infiltrator.
i must agree.
ressing people out of impossible situations is fun.
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Posté 04 mars 2012 - 09:15
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I've been going crazy(ier than usual) today since the end of the demo is nearing. Charging absolutely crazy groups and just popping Ops kits and medigels and missiles like candy... two atlases and 4 phantoms surrounded by guardians in a group? Charge and missile. Great fun. Time to burn em guys!
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Posté 05 mars 2012 - 02:40
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Destructo-Bot wrote...
I've been going crazy(ier than usual) today since the end of the demo is nearing. Charging absolutely crazy groups and just popping Ops kits and medigels and missiles like candy... two atlases and 4 phantoms surrounded by guardians in a group? Charge and missile. Great fun. Time to burn em guys!
Haha same here. i hate to admit, but i've been going vanguard crazy on silver and bronze just to get it out of my system. but recently i noticed they've been getting smarter.. i mean a few games recently when a group of enemies spawned, and assault troopers already placed cooked gernades at their feets before my charge across the map... predicting my moves now i see, smart play AI, smart play...
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Posté 05 mars 2012 - 02:45
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Vanguards are great to break enemy formations, especially when partnered with an Infiltrator.
I worked with a friend who would charge into a group, which often led to several guys moving position to get behind cover, allowing me to pick them off quickly with my sniper rifle.
As for those saying the Infiltrator's cloak is OP, bear in mind it doesn't hide you from Atlas' or Turrets, and won't be anywhere near as useful if an enemy sees you cloaking.
I worked with a friend who would charge into a group, which often led to several guys moving position to get behind cover, allowing me to pick them off quickly with my sniper rifle.
As for those saying the Infiltrator's cloak is OP, bear in mind it doesn't hide you from Atlas' or Turrets, and won't be anywhere near as useful if an enemy sees you cloaking.
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Posté 05 mars 2012 - 08:11
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I dont care bout being 1st or not, as long we can survive the waves i'm all good
It's coop mp, we survive everybody wins, cheers
It's coop mp, we survive everybody wins, cheers
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Posté 05 mars 2012 - 10:11
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Vanguard is a very helpfull Defensive/Offensive class for example when i was pinned down by a phantom and few guardiens the vanguard on my team showd up and cleared a path for me to get out from the spot i was in preventing my death and then leading to a revive of another downed player
Ignore the ****s that sitting in their cover lining headshots all day and dont help their team in time of need all they do is raging on vanguards
Ignore the ****s that sitting in their cover lining headshots all day and dont help their team in time of need all they do is raging on vanguards
