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So... Sex Scenes... How far did Bioware go in this one?


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Knowing the rate at which the scenes are dropping in Bioware games, I'd say the two partners involved stare at each other longingly, express their mutual respect for each other and the scene fades out with a hug.

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Travie wrote...

Over time society will develop more mature ideas about sex.

For now the religious roots of America are holding us back a bit, sorry other countries...


hey not dont bring religon into this. I have yet to see a shurch come out bashing The Witcher. If anything blame EA for not even wanting to take a risk.

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As far as DA2 and ME2. Bioware pushes the limits once again.

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Yeah and if i want to watch popping heads or smashing a human/alien being into small pieces, ill go play God Of War.

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Zkyire wrote...

Show a child getting into a shuttle, only for it to be destroyed seconds later? Perfectly acceptable.

Shooting a fuel tank which then explodes causing a Krogan to be set on fire and burn to death, screaming? Perfectly acceptable.

Show an autistic man being strung up to some machine by his own brother, while he's screaming for help (in tears)? Perfectly fine.

Show Kelly being liquified before your own eyes? Perfectly acceptable.

Showing two adults having consensual sex? Sorry guys, that would be disgusting, so we'll have them make out (briefly) in their underwear.


Totaly this.

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Izhalezan wrote...

Knowing the rate at which the scenes are dropping in Bioware games, I'd say the two partners involved stare at each other longingly, express their mutual respect for each other and the scene fades out with a hug.


Woah, hey, let's keep it clean. Firm handshake.

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Gah this is annoying.

It is a rated M game. No one expects naughty bits, but at least something like ME1.

Modifié par Luigitornado, 01 mars 2012 - 05:22 .


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It's amazing how prudish we Americans are when it comes to the issue of sex. A natural human biological function. Even 'virtual' sex is taboo...

Sex is natural people. It's how we procreate, it's meant to be enjoyable, and it's pretty hard to do with your clothes on...lol...

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Slidell505 wrote...

As far as DA2 and ME2. Bioware pushes the limits once again.



well its better like this because if they were to go full frontal it would get a adult rating most likely wich is rare in the gaming buisness.

i agree that yes fox blew me1 way out of proportion but i dont need need pixel nudity to enjoy a game let alone a film.

basicly what im saying is if its in great if not no big deal

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Slidell505 wrote...

Izhalezan wrote...

Knowing the rate at which the scenes are dropping in Bioware games, I'd say the two partners involved stare at each other longingly, express their mutual respect for each other and the scene fades out with a hug.


Woah, hey, let's keep it clean. Firm handshake.



Just wave from a safe distance.

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MACharlie1 wrote...

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I saw the M/M scene. They lean close together, but we don't see them kiss. That was as intimate as it got.


Really? That doesn't seem fair, hell even in ME2 we got to see Miranda in a bra.


There's plenty of free porn on the internet if you are that concerned about seeing nudity.


I think you missed the point. I was saying that gays cant see a kiss but the rest of us can see a chick with her top off as she procedes to give us a rather bad friction burn. How is that fair?

Just to play devils advocate...

Kissing animations are notoriously hard to do in games. Devs typically avoid them. Don't ask what they were thinking during the Thane scene (it's terribly animated) but typically, kissing scenes look fake and weird. 


True, and hell I understand it from that point of veiw(never saw the Thane scene so I don't know how bad it was). But i would at least expect something more then people leaning in, especialy if the other options have more to them.

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My personal opinion on why they toned them down after the first was because of how the media crucified them with lies and misinformation to the masses after the first's scene.

If you haven't seen the complete and utter trash fox was saying, look up "fox news mass effect". The guy from gametrailers is sitting there trying to defend the game and they just walk all over him.

While I am not out to say, "yes! gotta see digital boobs!" I do see why people point out how violence is acceptable, yet something like sex seems to be taboo.

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Tazzmission wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

As far as DA2 and ME2. Bioware pushes the limits once again.



well its better like this because if they were to go full frontal it would get a adult rating most likely wich is rare in the gaming buisness.

i agree that yes fox blew me1 way out of proportion but i dont need need pixel nudity to enjoy a game let alone a film.

basicly what im saying is if its in great if not no big deal


Was I asking for full frontal? No. Bioware doesn't do anything though, they do fully clothed kissing. It's an M rated game with PG "sex" scenes. Plenty of games have done more, and done it better.

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Travie wrote...

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This is a slap in the face how dare they not show the porno scene I desire.

Honestly as long as the relationship seems genuine, that is really what matters. Sex is a by product of an intimate relationship, not the goal.


Speak for yourself ;)

Relationships can take many forms.


I said intimate, not just a one night stand.  A real loving relationship between two people is more than just wall to wall sex.

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Naltair wrote...

I said intimate, not just a one night stand.  A real loving relationship between two people is more than just wall to wall sex.

*bzzzzzt* ERROR. DOES NOT COMPUTE! ;)

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Cyberarmy wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

Izhalezan wrote...

Knowing the rate at which the scenes are dropping in Bioware games, I'd say the two partners involved stare at each other longingly, express their mutual respect for each other and the scene fades out with a hug.


Woah, hey, let's keep it clean. Firm handshake.



Just wave from a safe distance.


Well of course, full arms length.

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Tazzmission wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

As far as DA2 and ME2. Bioware pushes the limits once again.



well its better like this because if they were to go full frontal it would get a adult rating most likely wich is rare in the gaming buisness.

i agree that yes fox blew me1 way out of proportion but i dont need need pixel nudity to enjoy a game let alone a film.

basicly what im saying is if its in great if not no big deal


I think it's because ME1 handled it in a mature and artsy type of way, some of ME2s and almost all of DA2s were handled like a racy PG-13 comidy and the emotional conection between the characters was lost.

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Slidell505 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

As far as DA2 and ME2. Bioware pushes the limits once again.



well its better like this because if they were to go full frontal it would get a adult rating most likely wich is rare in the gaming buisness.

i agree that yes fox blew me1 way out of proportion but i dont need need pixel nudity to enjoy a game let alone a film.

basicly what im saying is if its in great if not no big deal


Was I asking for full frontal? No. Bioware doesn't do anything though, they do fully clothed kissing. It's an M rated game with PG "sex" scenes. Plenty of games have done more, and done it better.



i know you didnt ask for full frontal  i was just saying realisticly though if bioware did go that route expect a adult rating and im not talking a mature one

ialso dosent the rating depend on the country as well?

some coud say hey everyone this game is rated m wile others could ban it for w/e reason

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Cody211282 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

As far as DA2 and ME2. Bioware pushes the limits once again.



well its better like this because if they were to go full frontal it would get a adult rating most likely wich is rare in the gaming buisness.

i agree that yes fox blew me1 way out of proportion but i dont need need pixel nudity to enjoy a game let alone a film.

basicly what im saying is if its in great if not no big deal


I think it's because ME1 handled it in a mature and artsy type of way, some of ME2s and almost all of DA2s were handled like a racy PG-13 comidy and the emotional conection between the characters was lost.



i never played da2 ( and dont plan to) so i wouldnt know what there sex scenes are like



also from a buisness point of view they may have dumbed them down do to other crowds there trying to reach wich consists of all ages from teens to adults so as much as i hate fox news and all but i dont think there the reason for the whole sex in clothes thing

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The Witcher's sex scenes are over the top and gratuitous. The level of detail is just there as fan service and is meant to titillate cellar dwellers. As such they are as equally facepalm worthy as DA:O's scenes of characters getting it on magically through their underwear. If any game got sex scenes right it was Mass Effect 1.


Not by European standards, not even close. The scenes were in keeping with the characters of those in them.


No, they're just over the top and gratuitous regardless of what continent you are from.

They add nothing to the story.


Some do , but they all add to the character. The problem is your just seeing the sex.



exactly sure there are sex scenes in the Witcher but there is way more to those scenes than just sex if you look past the sex scenes of course and most if not half are part of the story. Also I'm a huge fan of the witcher and the tv series and the books.

-Back on Topic-

I prefer the sex scenes from ME 1 over 2 and 3 now

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Rated M for mature warning partial nudity and strong sexual content, ME3 need not apply for this rating passed on these two items. See more adult content on NBC then in BioWare games now a days.

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How can you say they add nothing to the story when during the scene the elves (and dwarves) tell the story of the Elf and the Human who fell in love. highlighting the unlikely relationship between a witcher and a sorceress?

furthermore, shortly after the scene while in the same setting you and Triss discuss what can, if you so choose be a pivotal moment in both Geralt and Triss' lives. (Wether to leave everything you are doing behind and leave toghever)

Perhaps if you read more into the scene direction and understood the purpose behind what you are doing there and why, it would open your eyes.
It's not like its one of the most important scenes for character developement or anything. :S


The scene with Triss in the pond started off good, minus Geralt's lecherous grunting in lieu of actual dialogue, and Triss' moaning while she is undressing. It would have been a good scene overall though had they just cut it at the moment that they both are kissing nude in the water. Instead it later cuts back to Geralt plowing her from behind, as if we already didn't get the point that they were going to screw.

All of the Witcher's sex scenes at some point go over the top. They're all a little tasteless, which I'm cool with, I just think the Witcher 2 is a poor example of a direction ME3 should have gone in with the romance scenes.

To me whether or not nudity is gratuitous depends on whether it is part of the story or character development, and feels natural in the scene, or if it just there to titilate the viewer. The intent of the filmmakers (or game designers, in this case) is what is important, and the Witcher often crosses over into the latter.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 01 mars 2012 - 05:33 .


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So, no sideboob is a dealbreaker?

Fail to see the importance here.

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Tazzmission wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

As far as DA2 and ME2. Bioware pushes the limits once again.



well its better like this because if they were to go full frontal it would get a adult rating most likely wich is rare in the gaming buisness.

i agree that yes fox blew me1 way out of proportion but i dont need need pixel nudity to enjoy a game let alone a film.

basicly what im saying is if its in great if not no big deal


I think it's because ME1 handled it in a mature and artsy type of way, some of ME2s and almost all of DA2s were handled like a racy PG-13 comidy and the emotional conection between the characters was lost.



i never played da2 ( and dont plan to) so i wouldnt know what there sex scenes are like



also from a buisness point of view they may have dumbed them down do to other crowds there trying to reach wich consists of all ages from teens to adults so as much as i hate fox news and all but i dont think there the reason for the whole sex in clothes thing





I get trying to have a wider aundeince but if your doing that then they should have cut out the swearing and the blood rather then adding a ton more in. I'm just saying that with how they did it in ME2 it feels more like how a teen or college student thinks a relationship it(hot and fast) rather then what a mature relationship usualy is. Then again I think the maturity in ME2 was much lower then in ME1 so I may just be  biased against it.

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Without side boob there is no Mass Effect.