Zkyire wrote...
TheKillerAngel wrote...
Han Shot First wrote...
rob593 wrote...
How can you say they add nothing to the story when during the scene the elves (and dwarves) tell the story of the Elf and the Human who fell in love. highlighting the unlikely relationship between a witcher and a sorceress?
furthermore, shortly after the scene while in the same setting you and Triss discuss what can, if you so choose be a pivotal moment in both Geralt and Triss' lives. (Wether to leave everything you are doing behind and leave toghever)
Perhaps if you read more into the scene direction and understood the purpose behind what you are doing there and why, it would open your eyes.
It's not like its one of the most important scenes for character developement or anything. :S
The scene with Triss in the pond started off good, minus Geralt's lecherous grunting in lieu of actual dialogue, and Triss' moaning while she is undressing. It would have been a good scene overall though had they just cut it at the moment that they both are kissing nude in the water. Instead it later cuts back to Geralt plowing her from behind, as if we already didn't get the point that they were going to screw.
All of the Witcher's sex scenes at some point go over the top. They're all a little tasteless, which I'm cool with, I just think the Witcher 2 is a poor example of a direction ME3 should have gone in with the romance scenes.
To me whether or not nudity is gratuitous depends on whether it is part of the story or character development, and feels natural in the scene, or if it just there to titilate the viewer. The intent of the filmmakers (or game designers, in this case) is what is important, and the Witcher often crosses over into the latter.
You captured my sentiments EXACTLY.
Everytime we have a cutscene where Shepard is about to shoot someone; it should fade to black before anything actually happens because we already got the jist of what's going on.
The difference is that the more graphic portions of the Witcher 2's sex scenes are just there as the worst kind of fan service. It adds nothing to the story or character development, and isn't necessary. It is the very definition of gratuitous.
If you want to compare the gratuitous portions of the Witcher's sex scenes to video game violence, it would be the equivalent of shooting a character in the head and triggering a 20 to 30 second cutscene of his brain matter shooting out the back of his skull, and slowly dripping down the bulkhead behind him.
In comparison I think Mass Effect 1 got it right. The scenes in Mass Effect 1 are nothing that anyone could point to and ridicule gamers, whereas the the Witcher 2's scenes would be more likely to reinforce negative stereotypes. The Witcher 1 is arguably even worse, with those ridiculous cards.
Is there a place for graphic sex scenes in video games? Perhaps. But if a company is going to go that route the writing, story, and dialogue have to be every bit as adult as the sex scenes. The scene shouldn't be done in a juvenile "heh heh...bewbies!" manner, which is pretty much the route the Witcher went both with the writing and the way the cutscenes play out. If it was a film, it wouldn't be taken seriously.
Modifié par Han Shot First, 01 mars 2012 - 08:27 .
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