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[Armass81]

5 stages of grief.

Stage 3: bargaining

[MyIntentions]

Do what fallout 3 brotherhood of steel did for us please... without the level cap increase. we dont need it. If those really are the endings... then all that prep i did for the "perfect" ending will be for nothing basically.
Definitely willing to pay for that.

[brfritos]

Jackal7713 wrote...

brfritos wrote...

I don't think the endings are bad, I liked, but I suffer from some psychiatric disorders, so this kind of things are OK with me.
And I hate happy endings.

What I really wanna see is, like Mordin said about Maleon, Bioware showing a little backbone.
They already were expecting the end upseting some players, but I hope they don't make another end or worse, make it like FO3 and extend the game.
This would be worse.

I can respect that you don't care for the happy endings. But for the people that do, they should at least have one. Like me, some people just want a LI ending. But some people come on here an troll people that would like to see something along those lines, and thats just lame. If rolls were reversed, I be pissed on your behalf, saying " you didn't get the grimdark ending, thats lame, they shuld put that in DLC".

Oh my, I became pi**ed off with From Ashes DLC, I don't think Bioware would ever see my money if it was like you said.

But the problem isn't really the grimdark end is it? The problem is Shepard being separated from his/her LI.
That was never a priority for me, I have tons of playthroughs with diferent settings and decisions regarding the events of the games, not  LI.
I think that's why the ends don't seemed to bad to me.

There isn't an option for a sunshine and bunnies end, but to say that Shepard will die in all of them is stretching things a little.
There are ends when s/he survive.

[SilencedScream]

Jackal7713 wrote...

What wrong with my logic of telling someone to stay out of my finances?

Did you not read it?
I explained why what and where you buy things affect other people via the economy.
So I corrected you - you said what other people spend their money on has nothing to do with us; that's wrong.
However, I never once said that we should have input on what you spend your money on. I'm just saying that it DOES indeed affect us.

[magnuskn]

I find it distasteful that we'd have to pay BioWare to give us a decent ending. They failed so big here, they should give us a free DLC.

[Whatever42]

brfritos wrote...

But the problem isn't really the grimdark end is it? The problem is Shepard being separated from his/her LI.

I'd say separated from the crew in general. You make tough choices regarding crewmates in ME1. Many of us spent ME2 bonding with our crew and trying to save them. In ME3, they're screwed. Nothing we can do about it. 

Otherwise, you're right. For me, I can live with the grimdark end. I'm annoyed there is so little variation and so many choices seem meaningless now but meh. What really aggravates me is the grimdark ending for the crew, regardless of anything I do.

Story is about the characters and its a bad ending for all but maybe Shepard.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 01 mars 2012 - 08:17 .

[Unit-Alpha]

brfritos wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

brfritos wrote...

I don't think the endings are bad, I liked, but I suffer from some psychiatric disorders, so this kind of things are OK with me.
And I hate happy endings.

What I really wanna see is, like Mordin said about Maleon, Bioware showing a little backbone.
They already were expecting the end upseting some players, but I hope they don't make another end or worse, make it like FO3 and extend the game.
This would be worse.

I can respect that you don't care for the happy endings. But for the people that do, they should at least have one. Like me, some people just want a LI ending. But some people come on here an troll people that would like to see something along those lines, and thats just lame. If rolls were reversed, I be pissed on your behalf, saying " you didn't get the grimdark ending, thats lame, they shuld put that in DLC".

Oh my, I became pi**ed off with From Ashes DLC, I don't think Bioware would ever see my money if it was like you said.

But the problem isn't really the grimdark end is it? The problem is Shepard being separated from his/her LI.
That was never a priority for me, I have tons of playthroughs with diferent settings and decisions regarding the events of the games, not  LI.
I think that's why the ends don't seemed to bad to me.

There isn't an option for a sunshine and bunnies end, but to say that Shepard will die in all of them is stretching things a little.
There are ends when s/he survive.

Exactly one, in fact.

[Jaron Oberyn]

No there is one ending where all you see is him breathing under rubble. That's only one ending. Everyone else has it where he is dead. If you don't want the dlc, no one is forcing you to pay for it, but for those of us who have been in this from the beginning of me1, we're disappointed that this is the way it ends and that nothing you did can change it. How I that choices with consequences? How is that wildly different endings, according to bioware?

-Polite

[Kroepoek]

MyIntentions wrote...

Do what fallout 3 brotherhood of steel did for us please... without the level cap increase. we dont need it. If those really are the endings... then all that prep i did for the "perfect" ending will be for nothing basically.
Definitely willing to pay for that.

You want to pay for something that should've been in the game to begin with?

[Unit-Alpha]

Fix1o0 wrote...

MyIntentions wrote...

Do what fallout 3 brotherhood of steel did for us please... without the level cap increase. we dont need it. If those really are the endings... then all that prep i did for the "perfect" ending will be for nothing basically.
Definitely willing to pay for that.

You want to pay for something that should've been in the game to begin with?

I would in an instant. It would make the hundreds I've spent on ME have some sort of ending.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 01 mars 2012 - 08:18 .

[Jackal7713]

brfritos wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

brfritos wrote...

I don't think the endings are bad, I liked, but I suffer from some psychiatric disorders, so this kind of things are OK with me.
And I hate happy endings.

What I really wanna see is, like Mordin said about Maleon, Bioware showing a little backbone.
They already were expecting the end upseting some players, but I hope they don't make another end or worse, make it like FO3 and extend the game.
This would be worse.

I can respect that you don't care for the happy endings. But for the people that do, they should at least have one. Like me, some people just want a LI ending. But some people come on here an troll people that would like to see something along those lines, and thats just lame. If rolls were reversed, I be pissed on your behalf, saying " you didn't get the grimdark ending, thats lame, they shuld put that in DLC".

Oh my, I became pi**ed off with From Ashes DLC, I don't think Bioware would ever see my money if it was like you said.

But the problem isn't really the grimdark end is it? The problem is Shepard being separated from his/her LI.
That was never a priority for me, I have tons of playthroughs with diferent settings and decisions regarding the events of the games, not  LI.
I think that's why the ends don't seemed to bad to me.

There isn't an option for a sunshine and bunnies end, but to say that Shepard will die in all of them is stretching things a little.
There are ends when s/he survive.

I would say its both really. Just not having the choice, after what is going to be three games, does bother me. But like I said before, until I see for myself what the endings are going to be, I'll hold out hope. If it is the case, then I'll be on the DLC band wagon.

[MyIntentions]

Fix1o0 wrote...

MyIntentions wrote...

Do what fallout 3 brotherhood of steel did for us please... without the level cap increase. we dont need it. If those really are the endings... then all that prep i did for the "perfect" ending will be for nothing basically.
Definitely willing to pay for that.

You want to pay for something that should've been in the game to begin with?

People work better with money as a motivator instead of having a ton of angry players demanding it.

[WizenSlinky0]

brfritos wrote...


But the problem isn't really the grimdark end is it? The problem is Shepard being separated from his/her LI.
That was never a priority for me, I have tons of playthroughs with diferent settings and decisions regarding the events of the games, not  LI.
I think that's why the ends don't seemed to bad to me.

There isn't an option for a sunshine and bunnies end, but to say that Shepard will die in all of them is stretching things a little.
There are ends when s/he survive.

I'm not going to lie. For some people the LI thing is all that matters but for many of us it's a secondary concern.

I personally wish they'd just had the normandy crash into a reaper and explode to buy Shepard time. The send-off for the normandy is forced, pointless, and is not needed. It's unsatisfying. That's why I dislike it.

All I want is a satisfying ending. Doesn't have to be happy.

[Jackal7713]

MyIntentions wrote...

Fix1o0 wrote...

MyIntentions wrote...

Do what fallout 3 brotherhood of steel did for us please... without the level cap increase. we dont need it. If those really are the endings... then all that prep i did for the "perfect" ending will be for nothing basically.
Definitely willing to pay for that.

You want to pay for something that should've been in the game to begin with?

People work better with money as a motivator instead of having a ton of angry players demanding it.

It sucks, but its true.

[Skhroll]

recentio wrote...

I think a better response may be: "Dear EA/BW - I would have happily paid for a finished product with at least one ending that keeps Shep and his LI and crew alive together somewhere. Since you can't make that, I'll just pirate the game. Viva la torrent!"

^This

Although, even if the game has the best ending ever, people would just pirate the game. That's something that will never end; like racism or animal abuse...

[brfritos]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

No there is one ending where all you see is him breathing under rubble. That's only one ending. Everyone else has it where he is dead. If you don't want the dlc, no one is forcing you to pay for it, but for those of us who have been in this from the beginning of me1, we're disappointed that this is the way it ends and that nothing you did can change it. How I that choices with consequences? How is that wildly different endings, according to bioware?

-Polite

But I'm here since ME1, so your point is?

The funny thing is I didn't recall this type of complain so much about the beginning of ME2, for example.
Why do I have to work with Cerberus, why don't I have the option to pick the Normandy, go to the Council/Aliance and turn Cerberus in?

I'm really OK with the endings, since ME1 showed the Reapers and what it takes to stop them I really stopped to believe that Shepard or his crew could make it out alive.
No joking.

[Ananka]

I won't. A satisfying ending should be in the game to begin with. If you buy a full-price game,  you shouldn't have to pay extra for a well-written and satisfying ending. If BW can't provide it in the game, then they are either not the game producers they used to be, or they're just greedy. In either case, I wouldn't want to spend money on them.

[leeboi2]

You know what'd be awesome? If you tried playing the game first...

[MouseNo4]

Yep, again. I would pay money for a better ending.

[MyIntentions]

leeboi2 wrote...

You know what'd be awesome? If you tried playing the game first...

Will be doing that to try and rationalize their decision; if i don't then hell yes i will pay for an appreciative ending that will make the gametime i put into all three, worthwhile.

Modifié par MyIntentions, 01 mars 2012 - 09:05 .

[BrutaleBent]

Sadly, I'll pay for more/better endings too...

[arduousRenegade]

I agree with everyone else in this thread:
Bioware dropped the ball when they decided to sell a crucial piece of story as DLC. Then they kicked said ball into the neighbors yard (you know, the one with the big dog that attacks children) by making it $10. Great going, Bioware. You've officially done something so stupid that even your own fanbse is pissed.

[crimzontearz]

those saying that this is the "bargaining" stage of grief

Bargaining does not work with death hence why that stage is then followed by another one, but we are in the videogame world.....Fallout 3 Broken Steel says HI

[Jaron Oberyn]

@brfritos - only they are alive, but they're separated. The Normandy is stranded and begins breeding for the colony which is seen in the epilogue. Shepard is left alone and dies by himself. I would have preferred everyone dying but in the same area, the whole Normandy teleport of your squad and the running away sequence is just forced and plain dumb.

-Polite