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[Nathan Redgrave]

Elite Midget wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

As a lifelong fan of Stephen King, if I didn't believe that the journey was what mattered I would have killed myself years ago.

Are you implying Stepgen King has never written happy endings?

No, only that he very rarely actually writes a satisfying one.

[Tazzmission]

xsdob wrote...

We've only seen 3 endings, there are six, everyone who is complaining about the endings being too similar is only judging it based on half the endings.

this! and plus everyone who has a space copie even had to agree to a non disclosure act so they may post images and who knows they may not be able to spoil the actually ending details

[casedawgz]

Elite Midget wrote...

casedawgz wrote...

As a lifelong fan of Stephen King, if I didn't believe that the journey was what mattered I would have killed myself years ago.

Are you implying Stepgen King has never written happy endings?

Some, but the sad to happy ratio is like 6:1

[Dark Specie]

Heathen Pride wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Dark Specie wrote...

casedawgz wrote...
Only if you everything about the destination beforehand. Obviously knowledge of the future colors your opinion on the present, but if you had avoided the spoilers the journey would have been magnificent. 

Up until the endings, perhaps. And even then, ther knowledge would/will sour future playthroughs...

not true. i saw me2s ending before i got the game on release and it didnt affect me as how i played 60 times

That's because you have some control over the end. For ME3 all endings are too similar and disregard what you've done in 1 and 2. There is no replay value for 3.

Very true. ME2's ending has a lot of variations - you can get everyone throguh it safely,  most, some, a few... so even though the collector base is always either destroyed of preserved, there's more variation and an overall greater feeling of accomplishment/happiness.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

D-roy wrote...

xsdob wrote...

We've only seen 3 endings, there are six, everyone who is complaining about the endings being too similar is only judging it based on half the endings.

There are 7 endings, total.

But all of them are the same only with minor alterations, such as color, state of the earth and Shepard.

End of line.

From what I saw in the videos, isn't it mostly "state of the Big Ben" ?

Modifié par Ghost Rider LSOV, 01 mars 2012 - 07:44 .

[Hejdun]

I, on the other hand, am grateful that I read the spoilers ahead of time. If I had seen that turd of an ending while I still had such high expectations, I would've Hulk-smashed my expensive monitor.

[N7BLAZEOGLORE]

“The team has been planning for this for years, since the beginning of the Mass Effect franchise,” Muzyka told Penny Arcade. “Largely the same team, most of the same leads have worked on this for years and years. They’ve thought about [the ending] for years and years. It’s not something they’ve had to solve in a week or a month even, but over the course of five or ten years.”

Muzyka also shared his own experience with the game’s ending, saying that, “I just finished an end to end playthrough, for me the ending was the most satisfying of any game I’ve ever played… the decisions you make in this game are epic.”



Until we have a chance to play through the WHOLE GAME !!! Lets not cry wolf yet . JUST CALM DOWN PEOPLE

[casedawgz]

I don't get the allegations of lack of replay value. Sure, the ending isn't super happy and is similar no matter what. But there are still going to be various paths and outcomes through the story up to that point. You're not curious to see what happens in the short term if you do x instead of y? Or how character A might react if you romance them as opposed to character B? My Mass Effect 1+2 replays haven't hinged on having choices at the end. They've hinged on having choices throughout the game.

[Harvoification]

Just heard the original plan for the purpose of the Reapers largely involved them finding a way to stop dark energy. It was scrapped for some reason, which is clear because (apparently) the Haelstrom sun isn't brought up again in ME3, and neither is the "salvation through destruction" thing.

I honestly liked the sound of the dark energy one. It involved killing the Reapers and having faith that current galactic society will find a way of stopping the dark energy which is consuming everything (which is unlikely), or sacrificing humanity into a human Reaper, hoping that the contributions of our species will help solve the problem before it's too late. There's much more of chance of the Reapers finding a way to stop it than normal galactic civilization.

This would've been great, it would have made you think about the long term. Is sacrificing humanity and letting the Reapers live worth the survival of the universe in the long term? Or should we not worry about it and live in ignorance of that fact that one day, the universe will end and we destroyed our only hope of salvation (which Harbinger states in ME2)

So much deeper than "We kill 'cause we're evil space squids lol!" and "You can only stop us by sacrificing all the people close to you and all of our tech, which will leave you in a dark age... trollface.jpg."

Modifié par Harvoification, 01 mars 2012 - 07:52 .

[MinnieLincoln]

N7BLAZEOGLORE wrote...

“The team has been planning for this for years, since the beginning of the Mass Effect franchise,” Muzyka told Penny Arcade. “Largely the same team, most of the same leads have worked on this for years and years. They’ve thought about [the ending] for years and years. It’s not something they’ve had to solve in a week or a month even, but over the course of five or ten years.”

Muzyka also shared his own experience with the game’s ending, saying that, “I just finished an end to end playthrough, for me the ending was the most satisfying of any game I’ve ever played… the decisions you make in this game are epic.”



Until we have a chance to play through the WHOLE GAME !!! Lets not cry wolf yet . JUST CALM DOWN PEOPLE

I support this^

[Nerevar-as]

Tazzmission wrote...

Synthetic Frost wrote...

This is why Chrono Trigger, a game released over 17 years ago on the Super Nintendo, will forever be the best RPG known to man. Over 15 separate endings, each and every one of those endings completely unique.

And it too had a New Game+ mode that allowed you to replay with your achieved levels and items.

thing is though that is 17 years ago you cant always hold on to the past and expect games to be the same

No, I expect them to be better. And what we get is that narrative is going to hell.

[AkiKishi]

I just watched video's I'm a sad panda now

Atellier Totori was released earlier this year and has a number of unique endings. Not complete but what I can remember.

Bad
Normal
True
Character (one for each)
Chim - cute overload
Rich

Adds upto around 18.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 01 mars 2012 - 07:52 .

[Nerevar-as]

Harvoification wrote...

Just heard the original plan for the purpose of the Reapers largely involved dark energy. It was scrapped for some reason, which is clear because (apparently) the Haelstrom sun isn't brought up again in ME3, and neither is the "salvation through destruction" thing.

I honestly liked the sound of the dark energy one. It involved killing the Reapers and having faith that current galactic society will find a way of dark energy consuming everything (which is unlikely), or sacrificing humanity into a human Reaper, hoping that the contributions of our species will help solve the problem before it's too late. There's much more of chance of the Reapers finding a way to stop it than normal galactic civilization.

This would've been great, it would have made you think about the long term. Is sacrificing humanity and letting the Reapers live worth the survival of the universe in the long term? Or should we not worry about it and live in ignorance of that fact that one day, the universe will end and we destroyed our only hope of salvation (which Harbinger states in ME2)

So much deeper than "We kill 'cause we're evil space squids lol!" and "You can only stop us by sacrificing all the people close to you and all of our tech, which will leave you in a dark age... trollface.jpg."

I´d really had liked to know how genociding every space able civilization and sleeping 50.000 years time and again would have prevented the dark energy problem. It´s even worse than the Singularity nonsense IMHO, at least I can buy someone being so arrogant as to do that.

Alisatir Reynolds (I think) would probably had had some words about it too.

[Harvoification]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Harvoification wrote...

Just heard the original plan for the purpose of the Reapers largely involved dark energy. It was scrapped for some reason, which is clear because (apparently) the Haelstrom sun isn't brought up again in ME3, and neither is the "salvation through destruction" thing.

I honestly liked the sound of the dark energy one. It involved killing the Reapers and having faith that current galactic society will find a way of dark energy consuming everything (which is unlikely), or sacrificing humanity into a human Reaper, hoping that the contributions of our species will help solve the problem before it's too late. There's much more of chance of the Reapers finding a way to stop it than normal galactic civilization.

This would've been great, it would have made you think about the long term. Is sacrificing humanity and letting the Reapers live worth the survival of the universe in the long term? Or should we not worry about it and live in ignorance of that fact that one day, the universe will end and we destroyed our only hope of salvation (which Harbinger states in ME2)

So much deeper than "We kill 'cause we're evil space squids lol!" and "You can only stop us by sacrificing all the people close to you and all of our tech, which will leave you in a dark age... trollface.jpg."

I´d really had liked to know how genociding every space able civilization and sleeping 50.000 years time and again would have prevented the dark energy problem. It´s even worse than the Singularity nonsense IMHO, at least I can buy someone being so arrogant as to do that.

Alisatir Reynolds (I think) would probably had had some words about it too.

Easy. They'd only turn the most "worthy" species of every cycle into a Reaper, because that species could offer the best traits which would in turn help them stop the dark energy progress. The remaining species would be killed to stop them becoming too technologically advanced and, on top of that, warning future civilizations on how to stop them. 

Seems viable. 

Modifié par Harvoification, 01 mars 2012 - 07:58 .

[Nerevar-as]

And they spend >37.000.000 million years doing calculations? At least there would be a good reason to destroy them, if after all that time they still haven´t made sufficient progress.

[Dark Specie]

casedawgz wrote...

I don't get the allegations of lack of replay value. Sure, the ending isn't super happy and is similar no matter what. But there are still going to be various paths and outcomes through the story up to that point. You're not curious to see what happens in the short term if you do x instead of y? Or how character A might react if you romance them as opposed to character B? My Mass Effect 1+2 replays haven't hinged on having choices at the end. They've hinged on having choices throughout the game.

Wouln't say that there's no interest in it, but you gotta remember, no matter what we do it'll all amount to the same thing in the end: Shepard dies/is stranded on Earth and forever separated from his LI, friends and crew, who ends stranded on some planet god knows where in the galaxy. And that's not even getting into the issuse of Tali and Garrus starving or the matter of invietable inbreedign in this so-called Normandy colony that people keeps talking about . Hard to play the game(s) with enthauism when you know that, I'd say.

Modifié par Dark Specie, 01 mars 2012 - 08:05 .

[Candidate 88766]

BobSmith101 wrote...

I just watched video's

I thought they'd all been taken down?

[AdmiralCheez]

Well, I'm going to die one day, and thus all my efforts to make myself happy will be in vain (especially since I don't believe in an afterlife). In fact, every single person I've ever met, including the ones I love the most, will one day die. The very universe itself is on a timer--there will be a day when not a single star shines, not a single organism breathes.

The destination is the same for everyone, so the journey's all you've got.

As for the endings, I'm not going to let the hurrdy durrdy writing kill my fun. There's hope for the future, both for the galaxy and for the crew of the Normandy, even if reaching that future will be hard as hell.

So there.

[AkiKishi]

Nerevar-as wrote...

And they spend >37.000.000 million years doing calculations? At least there would be a good reason to destroy them, if after all that time they still haven´t made sufficient progress.

The answer is 42

[Kronner]

I am looking forward to the journey anyway!

[cronosfire]

where are these videos?

[Abram730]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

D-roy wrote...

xsdob wrote...

We've only seen 3 endings, there are six, everyone who is complaining about the endings being too similar is only judging it based on half the endings.

There are 7 endings, total.

But all of them are the same only with minor alterations, such as color, state of the earth and Shepard.

End of line.

From what I saw in the videos, isn't it mostly "state of the Big Ben" ?

 Big Ben impacts ME4.. perhaps the sniper?  or somthing a bit bigger > helpfull or tragic?

They were up to about 1000 variables... that needs to be brought down or do you want a 200 million dollar 5 hour game?

3, $75 million dollar games one for each ending?  Get real...

[Nerevar-as]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

And they spend >37.000.000 million years doing calculations? At least there would be a good reason to destroy them, if after all that time they still haven´t made sufficient progress.

The answer is 42

True. But what is the question?

Thank you for reminding me how bad of an ending Mostly Harmless was... at least knowing Adams was planning to undo it before he died helps a bit.

[I-Allister]

Sure wish i could "SEE" the ending