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[Ghost Rider LSOV]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
There's hope for the future, both for the galaxy and for the crew of the Normandy, even if reaching that future will be hard as hell.

...for your wallet.

[Candidate 88766]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Well, I'm going to die one day, and thus all my efforts to make myself happy will be in vain (especially since I don't believe in an afterlife). In fact, every single person I've ever met, including the ones I love the most, will one day die. The very universe itself is on a timer--there will be a day when not a single star shines, not a single organism breathes.

The destination is the same for everyone, so the journey's all you've got.

As for the endings, I'm not going to let the hurrdy durrdy writing kill my fun. There's hope for the future, both for the galaxy and for the crew of the Normandy, even if reaching that future will be hard as hell.

So there.

I can mostly agree with this.

I don't think there's a huge amount of hope for the Normandy's crew though. They're stranded somewhere between two old Relay locations, so it will centuries before anyone has the tech to reach them, and possibly millennia before they'd ever be found. By then, medication would've long since run out and certainly there'd be problems with inbreeding. For the galaxy at large there is plenty of hope though.

[xIREDEEMEDIx]

ok, so you said watched.....somebody has posted vidz?

[darthnick427]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Well, I'm going to die one day, and thus all my efforts to make myself happy will be in vain (especially since I don't believe in an afterlife). In fact, every single person I've ever met, including the ones I love the most, will one day die. The very universe itself is on a timer--there will be a day when not a single star shines, not a single organism breathes.

The destination is the same for everyone, so the journey's all you've got.

As for the endings, I'm not going to let the hurrdy durrdy writing kill my fun. There's hope for the future, both for the galaxy and for the crew of the Normandy, even if reaching that future will be hard as hell.

So there.

Exactly. I won't let the endings ruin my fun. plus like you said there's always hope for the future.

[Treopod]

Harvoification wrote...

Just heard the original plan for the purpose of the Reapers largely involved them finding a way to stop dark energy. It was scrapped for some reason, which is clear because (apparently) the Haelstrom sun isn't brought up again in ME3, and neither is the "salvation through destruction" thing.

I honestly liked the sound of the dark energy one. It involved killing the Reapers and having faith that current galactic society will find a way of stopping the dark energy which is consuming everything (which is unlikely), or sacrificing humanity into a human Reaper, hoping that the contributions of our species will help solve the problem before it's too late. There's much more of chance of the Reapers finding a way to stop it than normal galactic civilization.

This would've been great, it would have made you think about the long term. Is sacrificing humanity and letting the Reapers live worth the survival of the universe in the long term? Or should we not worry about it and live in ignorance of that fact that one day, the universe will end and we destroyed our only hope of salvation (which Harbinger states in ME2)

So much deeper than "We kill 'cause we're evil space squids lol!" and "You can only stop us by sacrificing all the people close to you and all of our tech, which will leave you in a dark age... trollface.jpg."

Dark energy is hypothetically the invisible matter that is making the universe expand right? And apparantly it could lead to a big "Rip" where the unvierse is ripped apart and a new universe is born out of it or something.

If the reapers purpose was to ultimately stop that fate of the universe, it would have been a good plot in my book, but i dont know what they decided to use as the reapers purpose, and i dont want to be spoiled, maybe its just as good as the dark energy thing. 

[cronosfire]

where can i read or watch the endings

Modifié par cronosfire, 01 mars 2012 - 08:21 .

[MrAtomica]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Well, I'm going to die one day, and thus all my efforts to make myself happy will be in vain (especially since I don't believe in an afterlife). In fact, every single person I've ever met, including the ones I love the most, will one day die. The very universe itself is on a timer--there will be a day when not a single star shines, not a single organism breathes.

The destination is the same for everyone, so the journey's all you've got.

As for the endings, I'm not going to let the hurrdy durrdy writing kill my fun. There's hope for the future, both for the galaxy and for the crew of the Normandy, even if reaching that future will be hard as hell.

So there.

I see that you remain impressively optimistic about this. Kudos to you on that, though I don't agree.

I too have accepted the inevitability of death. That is true for both games and life. However, there should be a distinction. Games are about having fun - releiving stress. If everything we have fought for in the trilogy is more or less burnt to the ground, what are we left with? What is there, then, to be excited about?

The future, such as we see it at the end of ME3, is bleak.

Headcanon and optimism are excellent tools at reconcilling that despair for some, but they are hardly an appropriate mechanism for ending out a series that should have been ended on a note of hope. In fact, I'm even willing to concede the necessity of a variation of endings. Give the doom and gloom types their "Galatic devestation", but also give us 'sunshine and rainbows' types (I refuse to be offended by that ) our resolution too. There's no need to chart the course of the story on a spectrum from dark to darkest, that's just silly.

Again, I'm perfectly realistic when it comes to expectations about how we all end up, eventually. But I also like to remove myself from that pervaisive reality to enjoy a relatively happy ending, from time to time. For me, escape is what gaming is all about. Too often, these days, all we get is moral ambiguity and grimdark. The difference is, there is almost always an indicator of what to expect from a game or series. The tone of the experience to the point of its end should clue the player in on what is coming.

These endings feel like a refutation of all that has come before. To be perfectly fair, Bioware should have set the tone of the previous two installments to be as dark as this one. That way, there would be no expectation of happiness. And honestly, "happiness" is a debatable term to explain what we're asking for. All we want is a sliver of light. As it stands, that sliver is nothing more than an imaginary extrapolation that must be created in our minds.

[Treopod]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Well, I'm going to die one day, and thus all my efforts to make myself happy will be in vain (especially since I don't believe in an afterlife). In fact, every single person I've ever met, including the ones I love the most, will one day die. The very universe itself is on a timer--there will be a day when not a single star shines, not a single organism breathes.

The destination is the same for everyone, so the journey's all you've got.

As for the endings, I'm not going to let the hurrdy durrdy writing kill my fun. There's hope for the future, both for the galaxy and for the crew of the Normandy, even if reaching that future will be hard as hell.

So there.

the bolded, you are also referring to the expansion of the universe because of dark energy right? its not completely hopeless, for all we know the expansion could revert itself at some point or just stop, or maybe i will be ripped apart for a new unvierse with new stars to be born.

i dont think that the universe will ever end up dark and empty for eternity, because the big bang happened out of nothing, so there is always the possibility for new visible matter to appear out of nowhere, maybe it comes from other universes or dimensions.

[Nashiktal]

Treopod wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Well, I'm going to die one day, and thus all my efforts to make myself happy will be in vain (especially since I don't believe in an afterlife). In fact, every single person I've ever met, including the ones I love the most, will one day die. The very universe itself is on a timer--there will be a day when not a single star shines, not a single organism breathes.

The destination is the same for everyone, so the journey's all you've got.

As for the endings, I'm not going to let the hurrdy durrdy writing kill my fun. There's hope for the future, both for the galaxy and for the crew of the Normandy, even if reaching that future will be hard as hell.

So there.

the bolded, you are also referring to the expansion of the universe because of dark energy right? its not completely hopeless, for all we know the expansion could revert itself at some point or just stop, or maybe i will be ripped apart for a new unvierse with new stars to be born.

i dont think that the universe will ever end up dark and empty for eternity, because the big bang happened out of nothing, so there is always the possibility for new visible matter to appear out of nowhere, maybe it comes from other universes or dimensions.

The big bang didn't happen out of nothing. 

[Stanley Woo]

The endings are already being discussed in this thread. please take your discussion there. Thank you.

End of line.

[zion2121]

can somone send me a link to watch the endings