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[standardpack]

So the whole point of Dragon Age's PAX panel was just to give us a bunch of hypotheticals and maybes to the future of dragon age? I mean I wouldn't be so bummed about it if they hadn't dropped the 'no more dlc' ball on us.

[BioFan (Official)]

The concept art for areas in DA3 looked really nice

[Silfren]

Yrkoon wrote...

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

Agrrrh everywone says Morrigan is so connected to the warden,NO,you can make her leave the party anytime you want and you can actually kill her in DLC the wich hunt

Er... in an unmodded game, you can't do either of these.  You can't  permanently dismiss her in DA:O until just before the end of the game, and you most certainly   do  NOT kill her in Witchhunt.  You can  just Stab her,  but then she successfully  runs right through the mirror.

Er...YES, you can.  You can tell Morrigan you want her to leave, and she will.  She'll come back, but yes, you certainly can make her leave at any point in the game, and you can do so without modding it.  She doesn't exactly run through the mirror, either.  It's left plenty ambiguous, so no, it's not a given that she dies, but she actually FALLS through the mirror, what with being a stabbing victim and all.

[Yrkoon]

Silfren wrote...
Er...YES, you can.  You can tell Morrigan you want her to leave, and she will.  She'll come back,

Yeah... she comes back.  Which means she's not gone.  By contrast, tell Sten to leave, or Lelianna, or Zevran, or Shale.  if you do, they disappear from DA:O.   Period. They don't, for example, come back to  your bedroom and  offer you some massive, main-plot dependent, dialogue before the finale.

doesn't exactly run through the mirror, either.  It's left plenty ambiguous, so no, it's not a given that she dies, but she actually FALLS through the mirror, what with being a stabbing victim and all.

Semantics, is it?  She goes through the mirror and doesn't die.  Which means you don't kill her.   And she doesn't fall either.  She doesn't even Bleed.



There's nothing ambiguous about this.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 10 avril 2012 - 01:11 .

[aldien]

Did they say if DA3 will be utilizing a new engine or will it be the DA2 engine?

[Foolsfolly]

standardpack wrote...

So the whole point of Dragon Age's PAX panel was just to give us a bunch of hypotheticals and maybes to the future of dragon age? I mean I wouldn't be so bummed about it if they hadn't dropped the 'no more dlc' ball on us.

Oh come on though, you had to be thinking there'd be no new DLC. Mark of the Assassin was a long while ago.

[Silfren]

Yrkoon wrote...

Silfren wrote...
Er...YES, you can.  You can tell Morrigan you want her to leave, and she will.  She'll come back,

Yeah... she comes back.  Which means she's not gone.  By contrast, tell Sten to leave, or Lelianna, or Zevran, or Shale.  if you do, they disappear from DA:O.   Period. They don't, for example, come back to  your bedroom and  offer you some massive, main-plot dependent, dialogue before the finale.

Now you're playing word games.  You asserted that Morrigan cannot leave the party, and this is factually wrong.  She can be told to leave, and she does leave.  That she comes back later is a separate issue.

For a person to come back, they HAVE to be gone.  So no, you're still incorrect.  Why you're arguing such a ridiculously stupid point is mind-boggling.  You said she can't leave the party, and that statement is incorrect.  She can be made to leave, period.

[Silfren]

Yrkoon wrote...

doesn't exactly run through the mirror, either.  It's left plenty ambiguous, so no, it's not a given that she dies, but she actually FALLS through the mirror, what with being a stabbing victim and all.

Semantics, is it?  She goes through the mirror and doesn't die.  Which means you don't kill her.   And she doesn't fall either.  She doesn't even Bleed.



There's nothing ambiguous about this.

I said that the question of whether she dies or not is left ambiguous.  And it is.  She falls through that mirror, rather than runs through it, is what I was addressing, and no, that isn't semantics.  She doesn't run through it, she falls through it, having been stabbed.  I was just challenging your claim that she runs, because that she doesn't is explicitly clear even from your youtube.  Perhaps it could be argued that she doesn't exactly fall, but it looks like falling to me.  I'm nitpicking here at this point, however, because it annoys me when people make factually inaccurate statements, and even more so when the "evidence" they provide is decidedly NOT ambiguous at all.

I agree that she doesn't die.  I don't know why people assert that making the choice to kill her absolutely means that she does die, because that scene is left extremely ambiguous, far more so than the scenes of killing Leliana or any other companion, and it strikes me as obvious that the ambiguity is deliberate on Bioware's part.  She falls through the mirror before her death has any chance of being verified, and this being Morrigan, of course she would be focused on survival, so it stands to reason that so long as she has life within her to do so, she will fight to preserve her life.  Of course she would act to save her own life once she is safely out of the Warden's reach.

That she isn't depicted as bleeding hardly stands as evidence, by the way.  Plenty of slain characters do not show evidence of bleeding, even when they are declared dead by the WoG.  Never minding that unless I'm completely mistaken, the visual of blood graphics can be turned on or off by the player.

[TEWR]

standardpack wrote...

So the whole point of Dragon Age's PAX panel was just to give us a bunch of hypotheticals and maybes to the future of dragon age? I mean I wouldn't be so bummed about it if they hadn't dropped the 'no more dlc' ball on us.

They already dropped that ball.

Crap...

Ever have those moments where you misread one little word and it changes the meaning of the entire post you're quoting, making you look like a fool?

That was me in this post, having seen 'hadn't' as 'had'.

*in Ansem the Wise's voice*

I'm a fool

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 11 avril 2012 - 08:17 .

[InfinitePaths]

Ghidorah14 wrote...

HeriocGreyWarden wrote...

Agrrrh everywone says Morrigan is so connected to the warden,NO,you can make her leave the party anytime you want and you can actually kill her in DLC the wich hunt

So?

BioWare has shown they arent above retconning the Hell out of their own game, and just because they're is a possibility of leaving her in the dust doesnt mean her character isnt important.

And come on, how many people are going to do that in their playthroughs for anything other than seeing what happens?

I actually liked Morrigan as a freind,she was rly fun and sarcastic,i didn't make her leave,and i did not except the blood ritual,i just think she is not so important as everybody is saying,she's a cool companion,she may come back as a cameo,nothing big.

[cloud39472]

nope morrigans very important she plays a big part in the dragon age series as flemeths daughter who holds the grey wardens god baby and went through a portal to another dimension how can she not be as important as everyone thinks and you dont actually see her die she just falls back into the portal

Modifié par cloud39472, 11 avril 2012 - 12:23 .

[Yrkoon]

Silfren wrote...
Now you're playing word games.  You asserted that Morrigan cannot leave the party, and this is factually wrong. 

No, I said this:

Yrkoon wrote...

You can't permanently dismiss her in DA:O until just before the end of the game,

Which... you can't.

Silfren wrote...
I said that the question of whether she dies or not is left ambiguous. And it is.

It's not.  Even aside from the very CLEAR  ingame cutscene...where she doesn't die, we've also got developer confirmation, dating all the way back to last year, that she's still alive, as well as Flemeth confirming in DA2 that she's still alive and still plotting.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 11 avril 2012 - 02:20 .

[TEWR]

Yrkoon wrote...

as well as Flemeth comfirming in DA2 that she's still alive and still plotting.

Which from a chronological standpoint happens prior to Witch Hunt's events and the Warden's choice to try to kill her -- to which he/she fails to succeed in such an endeavour.

Witch Hunt happens 2.5 years after the Blight. Flemeth's return happens about.... 1.5 years after the Blight I think.

I know it happens (almost) immediately after Awakening's events certainly

[AnImpossibleGirl]

Both times Hawke runs into Flemith in DA2, it is prior to the events of Witch Hunt.

Blight: 9:30 Dragon
Witch Hunt: 9:32 (or 9:32.5) Dragon

Hawke fled Lothering during the blight in 9:30, the very latest she runs into Flemith is 9:31. Awakening begins 6 months after DA:O. So I believe Witch Hunt is 6 months after Awakening.

There is no perfect timeline, but from what I gather...

Also, I think Morrigan will be of great importance. We just met her sister in The Silent Grove.

[Ilidan_DA]

New video:

[Ice-Whiz]

http://dragonage.wik...Timeline#Dragon

This timeline should somewhat show what happens when, though it's not very accurate. Hope it helps.

[Daddy Buttons]

What the DA Team did right that the ME team did not @ PAX East:

1) They understood fans were upset and addressed the situation in their presentation (ME made jokes)
2) They apologized (ME did not)
3) They answered the fans questions directly (ME did not)
4) They conveyed the idea that fans were upset and are working to FIX the problems (Not expand upon them)

Modifié par Daddy Buttons, 11 avril 2012 - 03:17 .

[Scarlet Rabbi]

^ This is true.

[Ice-Whiz]

http://dragonage.wik...s_fan_questions
Here are some extra tidbits, in case anyone is interested.

[Ice-Whiz]

Sorry forgot to link it.

Here.

[Lintanis]

Q: What feature from DA2 are you DEFINITELY keeping?
A: The voiced protaganist.

Ideal good to hear

[CuriousArtemis]

Ice-Whiz wrote...

Sorry forgot to link it.

Here.

Thank you so much for this 

I couldn't watch any of the YT videos; the fans were just too silly and fangirly.  Was giving me a headache 

[Michael676]

How can they say they will make it up to the standards of DA:O when they have the feed back and know how to make DA3 better? I agree I did enjoy DA2 to some point ( Cheesed I only found out they stopped updating content by a video of PAX east lol epic fail to me). But they have some good idea's in their heads from what i've seen, And the art work was epic so uber for the artist that made them. But like they said they just wanted to fill our glass half full to keep up watching them and if it fails they say it was only an idea even if alot of fans expect it to come.
And bring back Sirgun! she's the only person my dwarf didn't bed D:
I hope they are keeping the same idea's of what happened in DA:o effected DA2 and it'll go on into DA3, I want the dwarf kingdom to rebuild and be powerful and see if my grey warden sleeping with the hooker in ozammar has made a mighty warrior child D:, But still I wanna try and go out with Sirgun  
But I hope they keep the glass half full and keep pouring into it so it over fills ( Like Gw2 have) and makes DA3 more epic than most people are claiming, but only time will tell.

Modifié par Michael676, 11 avril 2012 - 07:35 .

[smallwhippet]

motomotogirl wrote...

Ice-Whiz wrote...

Sorry forgot to link it.

Here.

Thank you so much for this 

I couldn't watch any of the YT videos; the fans were just too silly and fangirly.  Was giving me a headache 

Ditto. Very encouraging things being said.....:happy:

[Ice-Whiz]

smallwhippet wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

Ice-Whiz wrote...

Sorry forgot to link it.

Here.

Thank you so much for this 

I couldn't watch any of the YT videos; the fans were just too silly and fangirly.  Was giving me a headache 

Ditto. Very encouraging things being said.....:happy:

(Facepalm on self) At first the browser didn't recognize the smilie-animations, so I kept thinking 'Why do you call me Smilie? is it sarcastic?'

Anyway, you are both welcome, I am glad it helped, and I found it to be a tad more specific, though it's still very early on; I am a sucker for new DA info (guilty!)