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BoricuaHLM wrote...

People say that their have been videos about the ending so apparently that's why there is so much rage


videos of the ending? you mean those 18sec jobs that dont really SHOW much of anything cept the same stuff blowing up or stuff coming through a relay???

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corporal doody wrote...

BoricuaHLM wrote...

People say that their have been videos about the ending so apparently that's why there is so much rage


videos of the ending? you mean those 18sec jobs that dont really SHOW much of anything cept the same stuff blowing up or stuff coming through a relay???


Erm, there are videos that are not 'searchable' you know. Videos you need to be given links to. Maybe if you're nice, someone will msg you links to the videos that are minutes long each.

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Corvus Metus wrote...

While I have no problem with the endings myself, sometimes I wonder if the majority of Bioware's fan base play their games for anything other than story. Even if the endings are "bad" (which is subjective) does that mean you don't enjoy the game itself?


The game is the story. So is the combat, the writing, the rpg stats. All of these components make up the "game". You can't seperate them. When one part is bad it drags down the entire game.

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Nachtritter76 wrote...

Erm, there are videos that are not
'searchable' you know. Videos you need to be given links to. Maybe if
you're nice, someone will msg you links to the videos that are minutes
long each.


Just did, last page. The red/destroy ending is in the vid itself, but the green/synthesis ending results in the same thing (citadel blows the **** up), just with green light. Blue/control still fubars the relays, but the citadel survives.

The normandy crash and epilogue vid happen regardless of ending. Only changes are who you see climbing out (instead of joker/edi), based on asset points.

Modifié par farlander28, 02 mars 2012 - 06:19 .


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Eradyn wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Eradyn wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

recentio wrote...

Corvus Metus wrote...

While I have no problem with the endings myself, sometimes I wonder if the majority of Bioware's fan base play their games for anything other than story. Even if the endings are "bad" (which is subjective) does that mean you don't enjoy the game itself?


No. I'll still buy the game eventually, but I won't pre-order it. I'll pick it up used for ~$10 someday. Probably beat it once, and then never again. I didn't spend two games growing attached to Shep and his crew just to shrug off their inescapable grim fate/demise.


And let me ask you this, how do you know that their fate is grim? Maybe instead they feel hope....you do not have the context.


It's called logic.  I've heard it's useful.

And whether or not they feel blind optimism does not change the circumstances of their situation.  It is a grim, sad, unnecessarily contrived tragedy.  I suppose one of them could have drunk the Kelly-Aid, but that doesn't change that reality...just how they hypothetically feel about it.



Why don't you use logic, would th ecrew rather

A. Be turned into Reaper paste

or

B. While stranded, live out the rest of their lives as companions, best of friends living for eachother, knowing that the Reaper threat is over.


1: They don't know that the reapers are destroyed.  2: You seem to think this is going to be some sort of utopian eden for them.  I suggest researching early colonization attempts by humanity in our own earth history.  It's not pretty.  Toss in an entirely alien environment, lack of supplies, small gene pool (puddle, someone else called it)...and you have a recipe that's not very pretty.  And yeah, Team Dextro is dead.  That's only a good thing to people who hated those characters.

Frankly, there are fates worse than death.


1. And yet they are escpaing th eexplosion coming from the Citadel. 2. Utopia may not be a place but a people (Bioshock 2 was so right about this). They may not even try to form a colony, just live the rest of their lives out. And you think Team Dextro won't make their own food, espiaclly with scienitists and medical staff in the crew? Tali is far from an idiot.  This is probably not FFVI Solitary Island bleak.

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corporal doody wrote...

BoricuaHLM wrote...

People say that their have been videos about the ending so apparently that's why there is so much rage


videos of the ending? you mean those 18sec jobs that dont really SHOW much of anything cept the same stuff blowing up or stuff coming through a relay???


and with no sound and no music, which music is a great tone setter for.

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txgoldrush wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

BoricuaHLM wrote...

People say that their have been videos about the ending so apparently that's why there is so much rage


videos of the ending? you mean those 18sec jobs that dont really SHOW much of anything cept the same stuff blowing up or stuff coming through a relay???


and with no sound and no music, which music is a great tone setter for.


The audio and video files are kept separately in the game folders, so it's obviously easier to just upload the vids to youtube. Seeing the details are what people seeking spoilers really care about, anyway.

That being said, lots of the audio files can be found at this point, too. I've listened to alot of the Shep/Kaiden stuff, but there's more, if you want to look for it.

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farlander28 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

BoricuaHLM wrote...

People say that their have been videos about the ending so apparently that's why there is so much rage


videos of the ending? you mean those 18sec jobs that dont really SHOW much of anything cept the same stuff blowing up or stuff coming through a relay???


and with no sound and no music, which music is a great tone setter for.


The audio and video files are kept separately in the game folders, so it's obviously easier to just upload the vids to youtube. Seeing the details are what people seeking spoilers really care about, anyway.

That being said, lots of the audio files can be found at this point, too. I've listened to alot of the Shep/Kaiden stuff, but there's more, if you want to look for it.




and yet you can't judge the ending off videos with no sound.

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txgoldrush wrote...

farlander28 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

BoricuaHLM wrote...

People say that their have been videos about the ending so apparently that's why there is so much rage


videos of the ending? you mean those 18sec jobs that dont really SHOW much of anything cept the same stuff blowing up or stuff coming through a relay???


and with no sound and no music, which music is a great tone setter for.


The audio and video files are kept separately in the game folders, so it's obviously easier to just upload the vids to youtube. Seeing the details are what people seeking spoilers really care about, anyway.

That being said, lots of the audio files can be found at this point, too. I've listened to alot of the Shep/Kaiden stuff, but there's more, if you want to look for it.




and yet you can't judge the ending off videos with no sound.


Er....how is this?

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txgoldrush wrote...



and yet you can't judge the ending off videos with no sound.


I'm sure that the missing audio has quality dialogue gems like:

"We'll have to form a colony...lllllllllllllladies?"

Seriously, what possible good would any sort of audio track do to these video endings to soften the blow?

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txgoldrush wrote...

and yet you can't judge the ending off videos with no sound.


What the hell kind of audio do you need to get anything more out of that? 

Citadel blows the **** up.
Relays blow the **** up.
Normandy crashes.

Audio and dialogue don't change the important facts about the events of the ending, and seriously - what dialogue could possibly make these craptastic endings any more digestible?

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

Back to The Witcher.

Seriously, the guys at CDP made two games in their history, and already they're better than Modern Bioware. Here you have games with ACTUAL choices (not just some RED/BLUE), better characterization, and much stronger writing.

Cancelling ME3 pre-order and never buying a BW game again.

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I'm going to gamestop tonight to cancel my collector's editon. I'll wait until there is proof that there is a good ending in it before I'll play it. Should have known that Bioware would pull this especially after the DA2 mess. I'll still play the Old Republic but anything ME or DA will not get my money.

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sevalaricgirl wrote...

I'm going to gamestop tonight to cancel my collector's editon. I'll wait until there is proof that there is a good ending in it before I'll play it. Should have known that Bioware would pull this especially after the DA2 mess. I'll still play the Old Republic but anything ME or DA will not get my money.


The pics that Xio posted last night of the crashed Normandy and Joker with his arm around EDI are considered the good ending.  That's the perfect ending according to the script, the Synergy ending, and it's the hardest to get.  Though they are trapped on a planet Xio said Joker seems happy.  Why I don't know but I guess that's the "happy" ending.

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Nachtritter76 wrote...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND

Back to The Witcher.

Seriously, the guys at CDP made two games in their history, and already they're better than Modern Bioware. Here you have games with ACTUAL choices (not just some RED/BLUE), better characterization, and much stronger writing.

Cancelling ME3 pre-order and never buying a BW game again.


Good point. The Witcher (itself based on novels) is far better written and overall much better than whatever Bioware does. Even DAO was Disney stuff compared to the moral ambiguity and complexity in The Witcher series. Plus the sex scenes are actuall sex scenes and not just dry humping. Plus very unique fantasy setting

I can't wait for the Enhanced Edition to come to the 360 and maybe the PS3.
Time to show gamers what a real RPG is like.

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Capeo wrote...

sevalaricgirl wrote...

I'm going to gamestop tonight to cancel my collector's editon. I'll wait until there is proof that there is a good ending in it before I'll play it. Should have known that Bioware would pull this especially after the DA2 mess. I'll still play the Old Republic but anything ME or DA will not get my money.


The pics that Xio posted last night of the crashed Normandy and Joker with his arm around EDI are considered the good ending.  That's the perfect ending according to the script, the Synergy ending, and it's the hardest to get.  Though they are trapped on a planet Xio said Joker seems happy.  Why I don't know but I guess that's the "happy" ending.


yes, but this isn't the type of ending most fans where hoping for, and its going to hurt b-ware in the long run. so why not just give at least one true happy ending

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corkey sweet wrote...

Capeo wrote...

sevalaricgirl wrote...

I'm going to gamestop tonight to cancel my collector's editon. I'll wait until there is proof that there is a good ending in it before I'll play it. Should have known that Bioware would pull this especially after the DA2 mess. I'll still play the Old Republic but anything ME or DA will not get my money.


The pics that Xio posted last night of the crashed Normandy and Joker with his arm around EDI are considered the good ending.  That's the perfect ending according to the script, the Synergy ending, and it's the hardest to get.  Though they are trapped on a planet Xio said Joker seems happy.  Why I don't know but I guess that's the "happy" ending.


yes, but this isn't the type of ending most fans where hoping for, and its going to hurt b-ware in the long run. so why not just give at least one true happy ending


Oh, no, I totally agree.  I think having something you can't avoid in the ending is crap for the culmination of trilogy that's based on "choice".  Especially a trilogy that's based around collecting a crew and relationships with said crew.  How they couldn't make the Normandy NOT get stranded as one variation of the three endings is beyond me.  Just make it the hardest one to get.  I guess they wanted to go the full-on martyr route.