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[firewater1212]

Hey guys,

Ive read through the FAQ list from the game and thats all. By looking at that alone this game just looks to a newer version of NWN (better graphics, some inprovements and changes to the gameplay syatem). But when I look around the web, everyone says what an awesome game this is gonna be.

The game still has limitations, like you cant just bash down any door or just murder someone randomly (not that I want to do that im just saying).

I dont get it, what is gonna make this game awesome, and not just a updated version of NWN?.

Please dont  go off at me I dont mean to offend, im just asking.

Thanks

Modifié par firewater1212, 02 novembre 2009 - 09:04 .

[Tankenminnet]

It doesn't offer anything incredibly new or innovative- it's rather the fact there that HEY, HERE IS A NEW RPG FROM BIOWARE. What I personally like about the game (or at least, hope will be in it) is the lack of clear good and evil, making the world a lot more realistic and with merely shades of grey- I always did kind of dislike the SAVE THE ORPHANAGE or EAT THE ORPHANAGE IN THE NAME OF SATAN choices you always had in prior games.

[kansadoom]

well i think it does offer something new a choice between where you start and that people will react to that across the game

[LevitasVeneficus]

From what I understand NWN is a great game (do NOT know from experience) though I've heard the sequel is better in some posts. Anyhow, if it is indeed a slightly or an even more robust version of BG NWN or some other Bioware game surely from what I've been reading it's going to be GREAT.

[buccaniers]

it is not enough with the real life?.. besides.. with the time will be boring..

[SillyJerry]

Well its sorta like NWN3 ill admit.

But just think of it as with everything possible improved in a major way.

[Achromatis]

firewater1212 wrote...

Hey guys,

Ive read through the FAQ list from the game and thats all. By looking at that alone this game just looks to a newer version of NWN (better graphics, some inprovements and changes to the gameplay syatem). But when I look around the web, everyone says what an awesome game this is gonna be.

The game still has limitations, like you cant just bash down any door or just murder someone randomly (not that I want to do that im just saying).

I dont get it, what is gonna make this game awesome, and not just a updated version of NWN?.

Please dont  go off at me I dont mean to offend, im just asking.

Thanks

If you have to ask, then this isnt the game for you.

Edit: Im not being an ass Im serious, I very much doubt many people who arnt already Bioware fans will be into Dragon Age.

Modifié par Achromatis, 02 novembre 2009 - 09:19 .

[Icinix]

In my own opinion.

Dragon Age:Origins is to Never Winter Knights what Mass Effect was to KOTOR.

Not game play wise, just story telling and deeper and darker. You know. Like a cave.

[Inhuman one]

Its a Bioware game of course, but it also gives a good impression of what Neverwinter Nights 2 would have been if Bioware had made it, minus multiplayer.



Its pretty much comes down to Bioware flipping Obsidian the middle finger.

[Holy Mortar]

The big hype is becouse [sure, thank's to massive marketing compaign] people, who played RPG for ages are just tired of shooters and rpg-ish bs's and are really hoping, that finally some good stuff is coming out.

Personally I hated Oblivion, although waited for it with big eagerness. Loved Fallout 3 just on expense of first chapters. And I don't like future/space stuff. Fantasy and post-apocalypse are only types of world I seem to interested in.

It's just my opinion and I am really picky [that's why I don't play much] - so don't flame me for not liking mighty Oblivion!

Modifié par Holy Mortar, 02 novembre 2009 - 09:34 .

[casadechrisso]

It's a Bioware game. If you ever played a Bioware game, I think you should know where the strenghts of these developers are. Storytelling, atmosphere, nice plots... true escapism, like reading a great book or watching a wonderful (30 hour) movie. It will not have the newest Crytec engine or reinvent the wheel in any technical aspect, but it will be highly entertaining, soak you up for a long time, touch you, and probably also have a vry high replay value. I mean... NWN kept me occupied for about 3 years, if that's no value....

P.S: Oh, Holy Mortar, I couldn't get warm with Oblivion too, even though everyone around me recommended it.

Modifié par casadechrisso, 02 novembre 2009 - 09:38 .

[JaylaClark]

I have to say, what's causing me to get this ... is the fact that BioWare has never led me astray on an RPG.  KotOR, Mass Effect, Neverwinter Nights ... all pure fried gold.  (Mass Effect actually had me, and a bunch of other people, replaying it endlessly so that we could get the perfect character for the next game, before we really knew how that would work even... incidentally, I'm kinda regretting the extra replay to get everyone perfect armor, since I'm sensing that equipment doesn't carry over.  But not all that much, and it was my fourth play on a soldier character, so what does that tell you?)

Anyway, the point is that BioWare does no wrong in my eyes, and tells a great story no matter the setting.  Add to that the fact that the combat is getting better every single game they make, and I'm fully prepared to have my mind blown on Tuesday.

[KingSarevok]

casadechrisso wrote...

It's a Bioware game. If you ever played a Bioware game, I think you should know where the strenghts of these developers are. Storytelling, atmosphere, nice plots... true escapism, like reading a great book or watching a wonderful (30 hour) movie. It will not have the newest Crytec engine or reinvent the wheel in any technical aspect, but it will be highly entertaining, soak you up for a long time, touch you, and probably also have a vry high replay value.

Yup, completely agree with you. You summed up everything I think about Bioware and their games quite nicely.

What worries me, though, is the fact that everyone in this thread compares this to NWN and not to BG. I don't want this to be NWN 3 but much rather BG 3.

I've never really warmed up for NWN and I gave it some serious trys. And don't even get me started on NWN 2.

On the other hand there was BG 2, which I played for years and could still play all day and night if I wouldn't have to work...

[Varenus Luckmann]

Holy Mortar wrote...

The big hype is becouse [sure, thank's to massive marketing compaign] people, who played RPG for ages are just tired of shooters and rpg-ish bs's and are really hoping, that finally some good stuff is coming out.

Personally I hated Oblivion, although waited for it with big eagerness. Loved Fallout 3 just on expense of first chapters. And I don't like future/space stuff. Fantasy and post-apocalypse are only types of world I seem to interested in.

It's just my opinion and I am really picky [that's why I don't play much] - so don't flame me for not liking mighty Oblivion!

Oblivion sucks balls, why would anyone flame you for not liking it? 

[Pansyrocker]

Tankenminnet wrote...

It doesn't offer anything incredibly new or innovative- it's rather the fact there that HEY, HERE IS A NEW RPG FROM BIOWARE. What I personally like about the game (or at least, hope will be in it) is the lack of clear good and evil, making the world a lot more realistic and with merely shades of grey- I always did kind of dislike the SAVE THE ORPHANAGE or EAT THE ORPHANAGE IN THE NAME OF SATAN choices you always had in prior games.

Oh my god, i love you.

Eating an orphanage in the name of satan has always been my bread and butter, but it'll be nice to eat it in the name of tender veal instead!

[Achromatis]

Oblivion rocked, if you had over 100 mods and didnt mind the lack of story branching. I hated NWN, NWN2 was better but only because it was pretty lol. Honestly I just ignore anyone who compares DAO to anything as a sequel, its a whole new universe with different albiet similar mechanics to their previous games(combat mechanics are as much as I can stand comparing to).



If your expecting NWN3 youll be disapointed, and if your expecting BG3 youll be disapointed as well. Its Dragon Age: Origins.

[allothernamesweretaken]

firewater1212 wrote...

Hey guys,

Ive read through the FAQ list from the game and thats all. By looking at that alone this game just looks to a newer version of NWN (better graphics, some inprovements and changes to the gameplay syatem). But when I look around the web, everyone says what an awesome game this is gonna be.

The game still has limitations, like you cant just bash down any door or just murder someone randomly (not that I want to do that im just saying).

I dont get it, what is gonna make this game awesome, and not just a updated version of NWN?.

Please dont  go off at me I dont mean to offend, im just asking.

Thanks

So, basically, what's the games cheap half-assed gimmick, that's played up in the marketing but ultimately doesn't mean jack ****?

You know a game at least has potentional, when a gimmick isn't the core of its marketing.

[DeFaWS]

I have to reiterate: It's Bioware!!!



These people know what they are doing, and I very much doubt a NWN type game for the simple reason that it is not based on DnD.



I am a NWN fan, and have played it many times. It's not particularly ground breaking, but I have never enjoyed myself so much. Games don't have to be ALL NEW BLAH BLAH BLAH to be good.

If it immerses you for 100 hours, hell, that is great in its own right.



BTW I also hated Oblivion. "Side quests" were so generic. And everything looks the same. Like in ME. But ME was fun.

[casadechrisso]

KingSarevok wrote...

What worries me, though, is the fact that everyone in this thread compares this to NWN and not to BG. I don't want this to be NWN 3 but much rather BG 3.

I've never really warmed up for NWN and I gave it some serious trys. And don't even get me started on NWN 2.

On the other hand there was BG 2, which I played for years and could still play all day and night if I wouldn't have to work...

Well, I didn't spend 3 years replaying the original campaigns, of course. Actually, I still haven't finished both NWN2 expansions even though I bought them on day 1.
NWN1 hooked me up completely back then, although I don't know for what exact reason anymore. But what made it a lasting experience for years was the multiplayer side, NWN1 and 2 are perfect multiplayer games for me. That's one thing DA:O will not offer though.
But besides that, Bioware's storytelling has always been excellent, and by storytelling I don't actually mean the actual story, but how it is told. Bioware is like a good ministrel who tells you an old folktale, you might know the tale already or think it's foreseeable, but it's just told in a brilliant manner.
The best example for this is Mass Effect, the game I'm most torn about. On one hand, I immediately hated the whole plot. It was so full of clichées that it made me cringe repeatedly, the whole Starfleet or whatever military structure could've been created by Gene Roddenberry or Roland Emmerich, only missing the guy with the trumpet playing Amazing Grace with tear-filled eyes. The Romance with that Alien lass.... horrible! She appeared like a 15 year old who should better go ride a pony than Shepard.
BUUUT, and that's what makes Bioware great: Despite all this I couldn't stop playing, because this B-Movie storyline was again brilliantly told. Their presentation was just too good and I felt like being part of that world. Any other develeoper without these bardic skills would be laughed at with such a clichée-ridden story, but Bioware earned well-deserved praises. The ballads from ancient europe are kinda black and white too, after all.
Anyway, I hope Mass Effect 2 will do things a little better, plot-wise, and I have the feeling DA:O definitely will.

[Varenus Luckmann]

You no longer eat children in the name of Satan. In line with the new ambigious and "grey" area of Dragon Age, you eat children simply because they taste good.

Modifié par Varenus Luckmann, 02 novembre 2009 - 11:09 .