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[Mann42]

I'm pretty sure it's going to be amazing and commercially successful. The story is filled with epic cinematic set pieces and the combat is tight and fun. The multiplayer is unique and well designed.

[Rehpotsirch]

I'm sure that out of all the Mass Effect players out there, only a small percentage actually post on the Bioware Social Network...and sadly, this small percentage includes a ton of whiny babies.

I've had a Bioware account for a while, but I completely ignored the BSN until a few months ago when ME3 debuted at E3 2011. During the build up to ME2, I had zero doubts that Bioware would deliver a fantasic game. This time around, I was reading some of the comments/complains of these whiners, and it actually made me worry about ME3...how stupid of me.

All it took to eliminate any doubts or worries that I had was the scene in the demo where the Normandy arrives to pick up Shepard and Anderson. Watching Shepard running and hopping over objects to the ship as that awesome music was playing was just perfect to me.

[Reofeir]

Rehpotsirch wrote...

I'm sure that out of all the Mass Effect players out there, only a small percentage actually post on the Bioware Social Network...and sadly, this small percentage includes a ton of whiny babies.

I've had a Bioware account for a while, but I completely ignored the BSN until a few months ago when ME3 debuted at E3 2011. During the build up to ME2, I had zero doubts that Bioware would deliver a fantasic game. This time around, I was reading some of the comments/complains of these whiners, and it actually made me worry about ME3...how stupid of me.

All it took to eliminate any doubts or worries that I had was the scene in the demo where the Normandy arrives to pick up Shepard and Anderson. Watching Shepard running and hopping over objects to the ship as that awesome music was playing was just perfect to me.

That scene had everything! Drama, suspense, action, and it was funny too! (looks at anderson):happy:
But yeah, the demo itself already screamed "SOLD!"...even though I already bought it in august. 

[UrPhreshness]

Gatt9 wrote...

mogonk wrote...

XavierHollywood wrote...
ME3 will be a massive success critically and commerically and be adored by the vast majority of the people who play it

1.  Plenty of works get good reviews in mainstream publications and are enormously popular despite the fact that they're terrible.

2.  The gaming press is far, far worse than the film critics.  It's an industry of yes-men who give every freaking game that comes out an 8.0 or higher.  Major reviewers have been FIRED for giving AAA titles a 6.  Seriously.

So, yeah.  I'm 100% certain that the same people who loved Transformers 2 will love Mass Effect 3.  And I'm 100% certain that the same people who gave Dragon Age 2 9s will give ME3 10s.

Neither of which does much to quell my uncertainty about the quality of the game.

Pretty much this.

Advertisers are the only source of income for game sites,  so they essentially write reviewers paychecks.  Advertisers want their games to get great scores,  and you don't tell the guy writing your paycheck "No.". 

The gaming press is completely worthless.  DA2's a great example,  18 sites gave the PS3 version a 90+,  users gave it a 4.x on average.  When you have a 200% delta,  it's obvious there's a problem.

Or alternatively,  one could look at Skyrim.  No PS3 review warned buyers that the game was completely broken on their system and after a fairly small bit of time it'd become completely unplayable.  Bethesda didn't want potential customers warned that they were buying software that would become unusable.

To be honest I don't trust most users either especially on the Internet. Have you checked Metacritics user scores if you go through them a good chunk of the time people using them only give games 10s or 1s without any reasonable explanations. I rather read a review that goes into detail on the many of the strengths and shortcomings of the game with a questionable score than trust what any user has to say about a game especially since it seems like people seem to pledge their allegience to consoles, companies and developers nowadays rather than actually be honest with themselves about the product.

[Hunter of Legends]

Gatt9 wrote...

mogonk wrote...

XavierHollywood wrote...
ME3 will be a massive success critically and commerically and be adored by the vast majority of the people who play it

1.  Plenty of works get good reviews in mainstream publications and are enormously popular despite the fact that they're terrible.

2.  The gaming press is far, far worse than the film critics.  It's an industry of yes-men who give every freaking game that comes out an 8.0 or higher.  Major reviewers have been FIRED for giving AAA titles a 6.  Seriously.

So, yeah.  I'm 100% certain that the same people who loved Transformers 2 will love Mass Effect 3.  And I'm 100% certain that the same people who gave Dragon Age 2 9s will give ME3 10s.

Neither of which does much to quell my uncertainty about the quality of the game.

Pretty much this.

Advertisers are the only source of income for game sites,  so they essentially write reviewers paychecks.  Advertisers want their games to get great scores,  and you don't tell the guy writing your paycheck "No.". 

The gaming press is completely worthless.  DA2's a great example,  18 sites gave the PS3 version a 90+,  users gave it a 4.x on average.  When you have a 200% delta,  it's obvious there's a problem.

Or alternatively,  one could look at Skyrim.  No PS3 review warned buyers that the game was completely broken on their system and after a fairly small bit of time it'd become completely unplayable.  Bethesda didn't want potential customers warned that they were buying software that would become unusable.

Or maybe Mass Effect 3 will be a good game.

Who knows?

[XavierHollywood]

Cody211282 wrote...

XavierHollywood wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

XavierHollywood wrote...

 ...just like ME2, ME3 will be a massive success critically and commerically and be adored by the vast majority of the people who play it, including yourself?

It seems almost as if so many so called fans of Bioware and ME are HOPING for ME3 to fail.  Ive never before seen more whining/complaining/crying/nitpicking for a game in my life, and sometimes over the most ridiculous things imaginable.  However, Im also convinced that this incrediably loud crowd will also be an incrediably small minority.

Ive kept myself free of any major spoilers, but of what ive played and seen thus far I think I can confidently go out on a limb here and say that I will thoroughly enjoy this game from top to bottom.  I loved Mass Effect 1, Loved Mass Effect 2 just as much (though for slightly different reasons), and I have yet to feel any reason as to why ME3 wont continue that trend.

Hats off to you Bioware.  Im glad to have had the chance to experience your defining series.

How can you be tipping your hat for something that you havent even played yet. Thats like me saying how good the food is at a place I haven't eaten at yet, sure I really want it to be good but it could end up being just eh.

Ive always had faith in Bioware when it came to the ME series.  This is their baby afterall.   Ive been frequenting these boards for years now and have waded through so much negativity but never once doubted that I would love the games.  Sure the games arent  perfect in every way, but honestly, its the most enjoyment ive had in gaming this generation.  When it comes to ME, Bioware has earned the benefit of the doubt with me.  Could I be wrong? Sure, but im quite positive they wont let me down.

Its like going to a place I havent eaten yet, but I know the head chiefs are from my previously favorite restaurant:P

Well going off what they have done in the past that sorta scares me. ME2 was a great game with a meh main plot and to me DA2 is better off not mentioned. I really really hope this game is amazing but I'm a bit more worried then I have been with previous titles.

Not saying your concerns arent legitimate.  Of course they are.  I'll be honest and say I never played the DA games, and from everything ive gathered part 2 was a major let down to many.  If it were the same teams that worked on DA as did ME (under the same time constraints as the DA2 team had) then maybe I would have some concerns. As far as I know though, they are completely different teams which is why I stressed before that Bioware has earned the benefit of the doubt from me with regards tot he ME series.

Yes I agree that the story wasnt as good in ME2 but I felt everything else was better.  With the third entry I do believe everything will be firing on all cyclinders.

[Reofeir]

UrPhreshness wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

mogonk wrote...

XavierHollywood wrote...
ME3 will be a massive success critically and commerically and be adored by the vast majority of the people who play it

1.  Plenty of works get good reviews in mainstream publications and are enormously popular despite the fact that they're terrible.

2.  The gaming press is far, far worse than the film critics.  It's an industry of yes-men who give every freaking game that comes out an 8.0 or higher.  Major reviewers have been FIRED for giving AAA titles a 6.  Seriously.

So, yeah.  I'm 100% certain that the same people who loved Transformers 2 will love Mass Effect 3.  And I'm 100% certain that the same people who gave Dragon Age 2 9s will give ME3 10s.

Neither of which does much to quell my uncertainty about the quality of the game.

Pretty much this.

Advertisers are the only source of income for game sites,  so they essentially write reviewers paychecks.  Advertisers want their games to get great scores,  and you don't tell the guy writing your paycheck "No.". 

The gaming press is completely worthless.  DA2's a great example,  18 sites gave the PS3 version a 90+,  users gave it a 4.x on average.  When you have a 200% delta,  it's obvious there's a problem.

Or alternatively,  one could look at Skyrim.  No PS3 review warned buyers that the game was completely broken on their system and after a fairly small bit of time it'd become completely unplayable.  Bethesda didn't want potential customers warned that they were buying software that would become unusable.

To be honest I don't trust most users either especially on the Internet. Have you checked Metacritics user scores if you go through them a good chunk of the time people using them only give games 10s or 1s without any reasonable explanations. I rather read a review that goes into detail on the many of the strengths and shortcomings of the game with a questionable score than trust what any user has to say about a game especially since it seems like people seem to pledge their allegience to consoles, companies and developers nowadays rather than actually be honest with themselves about the product.

Critics always give a good ol' 7-10. What happend to 1-6 I wonder? Not much of a critic are they?
Users are the most harsh to the nicest people when it comes to reviews, they give it 1's or 10's. Apperently 2-9 doesn't exist most of the time

I tend to just read what the common complaints are, and what the common praises are. Numbers don't exist for me anymore...sometimes

[mogonk]

UrPhreshness wrote...

To be honest I don't trust most users either especially on the Internet. Have you checked Metacritics user scores if you go through them a good chunk of the time people using them only give games 10s or 1s without any reasonable explanations. I rather read a review that goes into detail on the many of the strengths and shortcomings of the game with a questionable score than trust what any user has to say about a game especially since it seems like people seem to pledge their allegience to consoles, companies and developers nowadays rather than actually be honest with themselves about the product.

And sometimes the "user" reviews are by employees of the game's developer who post things like "if you have any criticism for this game, you're being irrational and you're wrong".

Not naming any names....

[AlanC9]

mogonk wrote...

UrPhreshness wrote...

To be honest I don't trust most users either especially on the Internet. Have you checked Metacritics user scores if you go through them a good chunk of the time people using them only give games 10s or 1s without any reasonable explanations. I rather read a review that goes into detail on the many of the strengths and shortcomings of the game with a questionable score than trust what any user has to say about a game especially since it seems like people seem to pledge their allegience to consoles, companies and developers nowadays rather than actually be honest with themselves about the product.

And sometimes the "user" reviews are by employees of the game's developer who post things like "if you have any criticism for this game, you're being irrational and you're wrong".

Not naming any names....

Yep. Both true. User scores are worthless, unless the user actually explains why he's giving out that score.

[Aetius5]

I'll say this. I won't spoil the endings of anything for me anymore. Regardless of the context, just looking forward to something that is so potentially bad is mental anguish. Just do a media blackout until launch day and play the game yourself. If the game sucks, don't buy from the company anymore. Don't rant on the forums, or anything stupid or immature. Money is the best way to voice an opinion.

[Zombie Darwin]

XavierHollywood wrote...

 ...just like ME2, ME3 will be a massive success critically and commerically and be adored by the vast majority of the people who play it, including yourself?

It seems almost as if so many so called fans of Bioware and ME are HOPING for ME3 to fail.  Ive never before seen more whining/complaining/crying/nitpicking for a game in my life, and sometimes over the most ridiculous things imaginable.  However, Im also convinced that this incrediably loud crowd will also be an incrediably small minority.

Ive kept myself free of any major spoilers, but of what ive played and seen thus far I think I can confidently go out on a limb here and say that I will thoroughly enjoy this game from top to bottom.  I loved Mass Effect 1, Loved Mass Effect 2 just as much (though for slightly different reasons), and I have yet to feel any reason as to why ME3 wont continue that trend.

Hats off to you Bioware.  Im glad to have had the chance to experience your defining series.

Most of the complaints surrounding ME3 are the fact that EA is shafting people with all the extra charges and day one DLC. I have no doubt that the game itself will sell like hotcakes and have good review scores from the major sites. The problem is, because the game will be successful, you can expect the goons at EA to shove this nickle and dime stuff down our throats even more in future releases because we will buy the game anyways.

Stop buying day one DLC people.

[CrazyCatDude]

Zombie Darwin wrote...

XavierHollywood wrote...

 ...just like ME2, ME3 will be a massive success critically and commerically and be adored by the vast majority of the people who play it, including yourself?

It seems almost as if so many so called fans of Bioware and ME are HOPING for ME3 to fail.  Ive never before seen more whining/complaining/crying/nitpicking for a game in my life, and sometimes over the most ridiculous things imaginable.  However, Im also convinced that this incrediably loud crowd will also be an incrediably small minority.

Ive kept myself free of any major spoilers, but of what ive played and seen thus far I think I can confidently go out on a limb here and say that I will thoroughly enjoy this game from top to bottom.  I loved Mass Effect 1, Loved Mass Effect 2 just as much (though for slightly different reasons), and I have yet to feel any reason as to why ME3 wont continue that trend.

Hats off to you Bioware.  Im glad to have had the chance to experience your defining series.

Most of the complaints surrounding ME3 are the fact that EA is shafting people with all the extra charges and day one DLC. I have no doubt that the game itself will sell like hotcakes and have good review scores from the major sites. The problem is, because the game will be successful, you can expect the goons at EA to shove this nickle and dime stuff down our throats even more in future releases because we will buy the game anyways.

Stop buying day one DLC people.

I'm honestly really freaking sick of hearing about it.  They finished the game.  They had time enough between the time the game was sent for final QA and the release date to build a DLC, which is an add on.  I see no problem with them charging for additional content, and if I hadn't already pre-ordered my CE, I'd be perfectly happy plunking down $10 for it.  I have no quams about compensating people fairly for their hard work.

[Haventh]

XavierHollywood wrote...

 ...just like ME2, ME3 will be a massive success critically and commerically and be adored by the vast majority of the people who play it, including yourself?

It seems almost as if so many so called fans of Bioware and ME are HOPING for ME3 to fail.  Ive never before seen more whining/complaining/crying/nitpicking for a game in my life, and sometimes over the most ridiculous things imaginable.  However, Im also convinced that this incrediably loud crowd will also be an incrediably small minority.

Ive kept myself free of any major spoilers, but of what ive played and seen thus far I think I can confidently go out on a limb here and say that I will thoroughly enjoy this game from top to bottom.  I loved Mass Effect 1, Loved Mass Effect 2 just as much (though for slightly different reasons), and I have yet to feel any reason as to why ME3 wont continue that trend.

Hats off to you Bioware.  Im glad to have had the chance to experience your defining series.

I always take everyone elses negativity with a pinch of salt really.  I'm sure I will enjoy it as well, but I am not a purist who says ME 1 is the best ever and there should never be change (can't limit art).

[tobynator89]

From what I've seen It'll be the best ME game i've played yet.

[corporal doody]

Almostfaceman wrote...

sackyhack wrote...

To be fair, I thought the same thing about the DA2 complaints before the release, and quite frankly they were right, it was very disappointing.  

On the opposite end of the opinion spectrum I read about the complaints for DA2 and then decided to play it for myself and it was an awesome game.

I didnt read any comments regarding DA2. Preordered it...picked it up and decided to play it for myself and I was very disheartened! i have yet to go past the 6 hour mark with any character.


as far as ME3.....IT WILL BE HUGE!! it will make money. IT WILL BE A SUCCESS AND GET ALL KINDS OF GREAT REVIEWS
.... but my fear is....we walk away feeling like we got beat up by a wet dirty sock...
and no matter how many times we replay the awesomeness that will be ME3....the outcome will always be the same....

UNLESS THERE BE SOME SECRETS YET TO BE REVEALED!!!


FINGERS CROSSED BABY!!!

Modifié par corporal doody, 02 mars 2012 - 07:45 .

[Pee Jae]

"...unless you have played the game from start to finish, you have done the equivilent of picking up a novel, reading the last page in isolation and saying, "well that was rubbish""

^That. Ultimately, I feel like the ending will be the one that fits "my Shepard". Whether I like it or not. If I don't, it still doesn't negate everything leading up to that ending. I've had fun/will have fun getting there.

[xsdob]

theSteeeeels wrote...

i dont think anyone is hoping the game fails. they just KNOW it is going to.

old school fans of Bioware/ME1 fans can see how far the game has come.... from RPG/action to full blown TPS wth Online deathmatches.... from exploring actual planets and finding your own way around to a minigame of reaper pacman..... from full blown epic story to babysitting aliens. yeah, no one ishoping the game will suck.... they know it will

Oh I get it, your trying to be funny, that's why you just tried to covince people that mass effect one was the better game. I'm a mass effect fan from game 1, played through it 4 times, and I have to say that the game is broken, plain and simple. The story is great, as is the story in all of the mass effect games, but mass effect ones gameplay made it near unplayable. The mako sucked, driving it over mountains was a pain, why make near 90 degree cliff faces with no way around them? The cannon on it was way too underpowered, It should not take 8 shots to take down one collosus when they can take you down in 3. The inventory kept giving me bad upgrades, weapons, and mods, but didn't give me an option not to take them, only an option to turn them into omnigel one at a time. Oh, and how charming ti was to have to bring tali and kaiden along for every side quest, just so I could recover probes and unlock locked storage units.

You may not like the new direction, after all, who are we to say that great gameplay mechanics and rewarding and challenging combat should go hand in hand with an awesome story, but you shouldn't pretend that your view is better because you "KNOW" things. And you certainly shouldn't say that your opinion represents all of the "old school bioware/ME1 fans", because I'm oe of you and I strongly dissagree with you assesment. And before you go off saying "I didn't say my opinion was everyone elses" you should know that you darn well didn't try to make that distinction in your post.

[CombustiblePanda]

I would prefer that people would wait for ME3 to come out before judging it simply by the endings.

I haven't watched them myself, but it seems like people really hate them.

[FlyingWalrus]

CombustiblePanda wrote...

I would prefer that people would wait for ME3 to come out before judging it simply by the endings.

I haven't watched them myself, but it seems like people really hate them.

I don't get it myself. In fact, I made a thread calling people out on it in that forum. That was kneejerk, but oh well. My thoughts haven't changed. As a lifelong student of literature, it completely confounds as to how someone could make an objective judgment about any story based solely on its ending. We sure as hell don't remember Beowulf, the Iliad, or The Lord of the Rings for their endings.

[GuardianAngel470]

They are the minority, even here.

Personally I'm excited for the game. I really hope Bioware have pulled it off. That they've created a game that gloriously accounts for player actions across a trilogy and does it with spectacular efficiency.

I really hope this is my new all time favorite game.

I see ways that it might not be, but I'm hopeful.

[FedericoV]

XavierHollywood wrote...

 ...just like ME2, ME3 will be a massive success critically and commerically and be adored by the vast majority of the people who play it, including yourself?

I suspect it too. I've played the demo and for what I can tell (not being a particular fan of the series, just you average player who does not care a lot about continuity) the game is just a uber polished version of ME2. So, if ME2 was such a success, I don't see why ME3 should fail. Btw, there is a passage on the demo that caused a very strong emotional reaction in me and I rarely never felt that way playing the previous games. So, if there's more of those moment of empathy, I think that the game will be even better for me.

Then fans go mad for little details or things that I would never care about considering that I've not invested anything in the setting. Looking at the forums ME2 was considered a failure but it's Bioware's greatest critical and commercial success to date. Personally, the only thing I'm pissed about is the lack of gamepad support for PC. For ported games, especially third person shooters, I prefer to play with a controller. It's more confortable even if less accurate.

Modifié par FedericoV, 02 mars 2012 - 08:30 .

[GHOST OF FRUITY]

I can't wait for the game and i'm sure it will sell pretty well. Seeing things like that recent IGN vid on the Citadel just makes the next few days waiting a bit more painful! I know about the endings to a degree, but i'd rather see them in person after playing the game before coming to a judgement. Context is everything.

[Nevara]

I was definitely hesitant about certain things (thanks humanity!), but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that I'll have fun regardless.

As for whether I think the end of my favorite trilogy will be a success: absolutely.

Regardless of what reviewers and even certain people think, I'll be having fun on the wild roller coaster.

[Texhnolyze101]

yesikareyes wrote...

A true fan supports what they love no matter what. Just like Resident Evil, everyone hated the movies but I love it to death. Well, Tekken the movie is my only exception! lol but that's maybe because I'm not really a hardcore fan of Tekken.

True fans should NEVER support everything a company does thats just stupid