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#76
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Ohhh "hype" ... While it's good for garnering attention and to get me to defer one purchase due to "next big thing" coming out "soon" it's a double edged sword. Atleast for me...

It's so easy to get disappointed.

Personally I try never to expect too much from a game.

I set the bar at just being entertained for around 30 hours for say an fps.

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XavierHollywood wrote...
 ...just like ME2, ME3 will be a massive success critically and commerically and be adored by the vast majority of the people who play it, including yourself?


It will very probably do that on the franchise's inertia alone. However to "include" myself it will have to be actually good to me as ME2 already missed the target as far as I'm concerned being part of the minority who was disapointed by many aspects of the game.

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Alrghty, I will bite the hook here. Of the bioware games, I have played 7. BG2 ( I never finished cause I didn't really have the time in college to finish it) kotor, jade empire, mass1 &2, dao and da2. Of those games, I only partially disliked 2 of them (bg2 just wasn't my bag and way too long during that period of my life, though I would like to give it another go, and da2 was a bit too button mashery and the lack of level variety felt rushed) but to be fair I have yet to be totally let down by a bioware game. Now, on the other hand, mass effect, kotor, and jade empire are three of my favorite games of all time. They have earned my loyalty and I trust this game will live up to my expectations. All things considered, no amount of negativity is going to change that, especially considering the sources. Tuesday can't get here fast enough.

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theSteeeeels wrote...

i dont think anyone is hoping the game fails. they just KNOW it is going to.

old school fans of Bioware/ME1 fans can see how far the game has come.... from RPG/action to full blown TPS wth Online deathmatches.... from exploring actual planets and finding your own way around to a minigame of reaper pacman..... from full blown epic story to babysitting aliens. yeah, no one ishoping the game will suck.... they know it will


You do understand that Exploring planets in the Mako was quite frankly up there with my worst gaming experiences of all time... And thats coming from a 
completionist.

Though I admit ME2 stripped way too much away. 

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"Don't believe the hype"

Does that mean ME 3 will be a bad - nope not at all I'm expecting to have grand'ole time come Tuesday. What it does mean is that game is going have it flaws(nothing is Perfect) and plots lines , characters story arcs etc, are going to end in a manner that one may not like. You know that tends to happen when you not the creator of the fiction that you reading,watching, playing.

I will mostly have a lot of good things say once I have finished. The trick is to have more good things to say then bad things.

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The ME series is BY FAR my favorite game series ever. Am I worried that the game won't meet my astronomical expectations? Yes.

Am I worried that it won't be a great game and I will have just as much fun with it as I did ME1 and ME2? Not at all.

I really couldn't care less about the cut and dry definitions of RPG and TPS. If you're going to have gunplay combat in a game, may as well make it work well. The fact that people are ****ing and whining and moaning about a game BEFORE it is out and BEFORE they (very likely) have even played it, drives me nuts. I personally know a few details about the game already, but I refuse to go into the spoiler section, as I want to not be swayed with words of indignation towards the endings of the series.

Monday night cannot come soon enough. ME3 IS 4 DAYS AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!

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I think it will be controversial. I expect some interactions to be limited (imo it makes sense with the galactic war and all), that will disappoint people and most of all I expect that the endings will not be quite what some people would want. I think the endings will make sense story wise but some people will still be angry or disappointed (I have not read any spoilers so it is simply my theory).

I don't think I will be disappointed. Perhaps I am easily pleased, I mean I have enjoyed every game that Bioware has made, even DA2 (despite some issues it had). Bioware's games are interesting, rich in lore and immersive and this is shaping up to be epic!

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I have no doubt ME3 will be a success. It has been made to hit the nerve of the majority.

However, you have to see Bioware is going a different direction now. So it is natural that many fans from their former work are annoyed at the fact, that they are pretty much losing a developer that makes games they like.

Modifié par DaJe, 02 mars 2012 - 10:52 .


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I_Jedi wrote...

I went to the spoiler section. It did not end well.


Your fault.

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theSteeeeels wrote...

i dont think anyone is hoping the game fails. they just KNOW it is going to.

old school fans of Bioware/ME1 fans can see how far the game has come.... from RPG/action to full blown TPS wth Online deathmatches.... from exploring actual planets and finding your own way around to a minigame of reaper pacman..... from full blown epic story to babysitting aliens. yeah, no one ishoping the game will suck.... they know it will


Go troll somewhere else.

Pathetic. :sick:

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The current troll board seems to be the ME3 Gameplay (Spoilers Allowed) section. I involuntarily wound up there and ever since I have been looking in, carefully sifting through topics, quite amazed at how deep the entitlement and hysteria runs.

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Hyrist wrote...

Well as far as the haters go. I think the problem stems at viewing Mass Effect 3's ending in a vacuum, instead of viewing the entirety of Mass Effect 3 the game as an ending to the larger Mass Effect story.

By the time you play the ending cuteness, you've already determined so many different story endings for so many different occurrence arcs that the core ending of the actual game doesn't matter all that much. In the end, all your determining is the final twist in the tale already told.

That's pretty good story writing, honestly.

I don't think Mass Effect 3 will do badly at all. It's ending will be the subject of argument for years to come, for sure. But it won't take away form the game on the level some of the forum users want to imply. (They are trying to relate it to DA2 when there was soooo much more wrong going with that game. ME3 seems to have far, far more going right for it.)

   



Oh I disagree. It will destroy the game . you watch and see

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FlyingWalrus wrote...

The current troll board seems to be the ME3 Gameplay (Spoilers Allowed) section. I involuntarily wound up there and ever since I have been looking in, carefully sifting through topics, quite amazed at how deep the entitlement and hysteria runs.

    



You have no idea how bad the game is

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CombustiblePanda wrote...

I would prefer that people would wait for ME3 to come out before judging it simply by the endings.

I haven't watched them myself, but it seems like people really hate them.

   


Oh hate is not the word more like it makes you sick and disgusted

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How do we even know these so called "Spoiler Endings" are even true? They are like rumors in my book. Wholly unreliable.

I love ME1, Truly loved it. I didn't care for ME2 as much until Bioware fixed the portions with Liara. I'm replaying it now to have two saves to carry over.

I loved the demo! Loved it! I'm hoping for a series of endings... but primarily if Shep remains alive, no matter the outcome, I want to see him or her finally get their time with Liara. I'm a hopeless romantic. lol!

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Really, the "picking up a book, reading the last page and saying that it sucks" metaphor someone posted was the best to describe some people's attitudes.

Yeah, yeah, you've read the spoilers. Noted. That'd be the end of line if storytelling actually depended solely on the script.
I really don't get why people won't wait until they've finished playing the game to pass judgement.

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Well it gives a horrible first impression and a horrible last impression. Even if the middle bit is solid those tend to be the bits people remember.

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I expect to love ME3, but I think alot of us are going to be disappointed no matter what, not because the game fails us on anylevel, but because deep down we know this is our last adventure with shepard, kind of like Gears of War 3 or Halo 3 greats games, but theres a certain sadness about ending a series

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After DA2 my faith in Bioware died down quite a bit. Same with ME3 hype. But because ME3 is made be the same ppl that made ME1,2 I think I won't see the same fiasco of DA>DA2. I'm still buying it and think It will be a good game, but after DA2 things just ain't the same, I look on thing like there are and not through blind fan mode eyes.

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@AndroLeonidas
I would like to belive that but, all endings are already on Youtube...
So...um..

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I think after this trilogy, alot of people will be done with Bioware, they have become money grabbing and fan deceiving. They seem to have forgot about their core audience. They have gone from a great RPG developer (ME1, DAO), to a mediocre action developer (ME2, ME3, DA2). They have totally abandoned their roots and DA3 will fail miserably and after fans of Mass Effect like me have finished the trilogy i will not buy another Bioware product as i just don't like the direction they are headed. And i think Bioware will be shocked at how many people like me there will be.

Modifié par tez19, 02 mars 2012 - 02:39 .


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Oh for sure - I'll get my CE, my Normandy, my Collectors guide book and collectors art book - I'll love most of the game....

...but there are still going to be the issues I'll have with it.

It seems a lot of commentary on here about other gamers is that they see someone having an issue - and think that is their view of the whole game - when people can still enjoy the game but have glaring issues.

I don't think anyone wants the game to fail - they just want it to reach for the stars in all aspects of the game.

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On the opposite end of the opinion spectrum I read about the complaints for DA2 and then decided to play it for myself and it was an awesome game.


And on the other end of things entirely I played DA2 before reading any of the complaints and still thought DA2 was pretty good even after having played it and read the complaints.

Far as the OP goes, I'm ticking off the days here. Lots of games say you're there to save the world, ME will finally deliver on that process. Saving the world may not be pretty, and you may not even like what you've saved...but its definitely going to be an experience that won't soon be forgotten.

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Cpt-Brit wrote...

theSteeeeels wrote...

i dont think anyone is hoping the game fails. they just KNOW it is going to.

old school fans of Bioware/ME1 fans can see how far the game has come.... from RPG/action to full blown TPS wth Online deathmatches.... from exploring actual planets and finding your own way around to a minigame of reaper pacman..... from full blown epic story to babysitting aliens. yeah, no one ishoping the game will suck.... they know it will


You do understand that Exploring planets in the Mako was quite frankly up there with my worst gaming experiences of all time... And thats coming from a 
completionist.

Though I admit ME2 stripped way too much away. 


The Mako wasn't the best. While I didn't mind driving from point A to point B on planets like Noveria and Virmire, on the random planets it was just tedious. After a few times of driving to "Debris" or "Signal" on the map to collect random nonsense, I gave up on all that. That's not exploration. It's a time-sink to drive around to various points on a square map and drive over and around jagged cliffs on every planet.

Also, yes, they stripped out too much of a few things in ME2 like weapon and armor customization. The "RPG elements" so to speak. I'm very happy they've brought weapon customization and far more power customization into ME3. They're both far better than ME1 ever thought about being IMO. Evolving powers 3 times to customize it? Weapon mods and tons more weapons that are unique? Let's be honest, once anyone got Spectre weapons on ME1 that's all anyone used anyway because they were WAY OP.

Also to the OP, online deathmatches? Really? I see no PvP. If you want to call a co-op experience like that a deathmatch, go right ahead I guess. I disagree based on the connotation of deathmatch in today's online PvP-centric shooter game lingo. Also, while some people on BSN might agree with your "I know it will fail" outlook, the gaming public as a whole doesn't share that sentiment. Steady growth on sales from ME1 to ME2 and triple the preorders of ME2 already, ME3 is shaping up to be a juggernaut critically and financially, not a failure. And most people who play it will likely enjoy it. That last part is my own guess but the part about it not being a financial failure is just fact.

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tez19 wrote...

I think agter this trilogy, alot of people will be done with Bioware, they have become money grabbing and fan deceiving. They seem to have forgot about their core audience. They have gone from a great RPG developer (ME1, DAO), to a mediocre action developer (ME2, ME3, DA2). They have totally abandoned their roots and DA3 will fail miserably and after fans of Mass Effect like me have finished the trilogy i will not buy another Bioware product as i just don't like the direction they are headed. And i think Bioware will be shocked at how many people like me there will be.


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