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[tch2296]

Of course, this game is almost guaranteed to be amazing. It's just that this community is filled with obnoxious brats who complain about everything and feel entitled to everything also. It's honestly one of the worst gaming communities out there, which is too bad, because the Mass Effect series is so excellent, and Bioware is an incredible developer.

It sucks that many (not ALL) the fans of one of the greatest video game series seem to be a bunch of spoiled losers.

[nelly21]

tez19 wrote...

DA2 done well on pre orders, something that will NOT happen with DA3. Same with ME2 it done well on pre-orders and was a decent game but not as good as the original, and by no means the disaster DA2 was. ME3 will do very well, mainly due to it being the series finale and people want to see Shepards story out. After ME3 they will not do as well, DA3 will bomb completely unless it does a 180 and back to its original roots, DAO. ME3 will be all champagne and sunshine for Bioware, the decline will come after.

You'll have to excuse me. I'm not as prophetic as you. I'm very much stuck in the present (post GOTY honors for ME 2, over a million sales for DA 2, Most Anticipated Game of 2012 for ME 3, none of which matter to you I know).

Tell me, how many survive the end of the world? Is it anarchy? Most importantly, does Justin Bieber survive?

[tez19]

SLPr0 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

nelly21 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

I am not personally offended, they do not know me, there is nothing personal about it. I am just extremely disappointed that they used to make games i thoroughly enjoyed and are now making games that are action based and ten a penny to be honest. They do not stand out as a RPG master developer anymore, they are a mediocre action developer, with a bit of talking. Bioware in steep decline.

Just so we're on the same page here. To you steep decline means more popular than before right? Because unless that is your definition, I can't even begin to fathom how you make that argument.

DA2 done well on pre orders, something that will NOT happen with DA3. Same with ME2 it done well on pre-orders and was a decent game but not as good as the original, and by no means the disaster DA2 was. ME3 will do very well, mainly due to it being the series finale and people want to see Shepards story out. After ME3 they will not do as well, DA3 will bomb completely unless it does a 180 and back to its original roots, DAO. ME3 will be all champagne and sunshine for Bioware, the decline will come after.

As you've notably ignored all my logical points I've put forward, I must assume that you are a well established industry analyst that knows quite a bit about what he is talking about. Please, carry on Professor Doom.

I didn't ignore your points, i ignored your post if we are being honest here.

[SDSweetland]

Initially I kind of freaked out when I heard that Miranda would not be a squadmate. Actually I was kind of shocked at the intensity of my own reaction. The more I read, though, the more I respect the writers decision to put the crafting of an entertaining, believable story ahead of my desire to play ME3 like a Science Fiction Dating Sim. ME and ME2 are two of my all time favorite games. I trust the developers and am really looking forward to this.

[tez19]

nelly21 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

DA2 done well on pre orders, something that will NOT happen with DA3. Same with ME2 it done well on pre-orders and was a decent game but not as good as the original, and by no means the disaster DA2 was. ME3 will do very well, mainly due to it being the series finale and people want to see Shepards story out. After ME3 they will not do as well, DA3 will bomb completely unless it does a 180 and back to its original roots, DAO. ME3 will be all champagne and sunshine for Bioware, the decline will come after.

You'll have to excuse me. I'm not as prophetic as you. I'm very much stuck in the present (post GOTY honors for ME 2, over a million sales for DA 2, Most Anticipated Game of 2012 for ME 3, none of which matter to you I know).

Tell me, how many survive the end of the world? Is it anarchy? Most importantly, does Justin Bieber survive?

DA2 mostly sold on pre-orders, something i extremely regret adding too. GOTY for ME2, yes it was an ok game not as good as ME1 though and please, which game nowadays doesn't win GOTY from some award show. Most anticipated game as it is the FINAL IN THE TRILOGY AGAIN. A highly anticipated game. The decline will come AFTER, AFTER, AFTER. Understand?

[kbct]

SLPr0 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

I think after this trilogy, alot of people will be done with Bioware, they have become money grabbing and fan deceiving. They seem to have forgot about their core audience. They have gone from a great RPG developer (ME1, DAO), to a mediocre action developer (ME2, ME3, DA2). They have totally abandoned their roots and DA3 will fail miserably and after fans of Mass Effect like me have finished the trilogy i will not buy another Bioware product as i just don't like the direction they are headed. And i think Bioware will be shocked at how many people like me there will be.

Any company's core audience is an audience that will pay them for what they produce.

You might find that the "core audience" that you're a part of is a very small group of people compared to the rest of the gaming world that end up equaling a lot more dollars than catering to a niche market.

And hey that might be cruel to say, but its the truth, sure BioWare has changed since Baldur's Gate, but I can tell you this right now, if they spent all their time catering to niche markets, they'd never make all that much money.

As betrayed as you feel now, just wait for the BG reboot. Cause it'll be a great game too, just like DA is, just like Mass Effect is, it just won't be the Baldur's Gate YOU wanted, and because they'll have made BG appeal to about 100 times the audience the original BG appealed to, they'll make a lot of money and acquaint a whole new generation with the BG IP, and you'll be sitting in your house, mad at the world, cause a game developer that used to make niche games stopped making niche games to appeal to the mass market.

In final, BioWare isn't the one with the problem here. Its the niche market players that refuse to adapt to the idea that game companies can't afford to make games "just for them".

Any game developer from the top of the heap, to the most successful indy developers, want to be successful. And being successful means casting your net wide and catching all the fish you can.

Be as done with BioWare as you want, for every person like you, they'll have replaced you with 20 others that have just come into the BioWare fold because BioWare STOPPED making niche games that only sold a few hundred thousand units at best.

Well written.

[Ash J. Williams]

I can't wait and have never doubted that it won't be anything short of amazing, everything I've seen so far looks great & lot of what has been promised & previews of ME3 make me only more excited to play.


A lot of people are negative but that's what the internet does to a lot of people. People almost enjoy to criticize every move a company and/or person makes especially when they are anonymous and what they are criticizing doesn't sound exactly how they planned something would go in their head-movie (see Tropic Thunder). But I bet you when they play it they'll be a lot less criticizing...until they've completed it and come back to complain how one or two things weren't exactly like their head-movie.

Modifié par Ash J. Williams, 02 mars 2012 - 03:39 .

[SLPr0]

tez19 wrote...

I didn't ignore your points, i ignored your post if we are being honest here.

If you refuse to even consider viewpoints that challenge your own, you're not here to have a discussion, you're here to dictate your view on others.

Which means you have zero credibility.

I laid out several points that make complete sense. If you choose to ignore them to continuing riding your doom train, then you are, quite simply, posting to hear the sound of your own voice in your head.

Which in my estimation means people should start ignoring your posts and maybe focus back on the original post's intent. Rather than your continued attempts to derail it.

[agn25]

XavierHollywood wrote...

 ...just like ME2, ME3 will be a massive success critically and commerically and be adored by the vast majority of the people who play it, including yourself?

It seems almost as if so many so called fans of Bioware and ME are HOPING for ME3 to fail.  Ive never before seen more whining/complaining/crying/nitpicking for a game in my life, and sometimes over the most ridiculous things imaginable.  However, Im also convinced that this incrediably loud crowd will also be an incrediably small minority.

Ive kept myself free of any major spoilers, but of what ive played and seen thus far I think I can confidently go out on a limb here and say that I will thoroughly enjoy this game from top to bottom.  I loved Mass Effect 1, Loved Mass Effect 2 just as much (though for slightly different reasons), and I have yet to feel any reason as to why ME3 wont continue that trend.

Hats off to you Bioware.  Im glad to have had the chance to experience your defining series.

 I agree with you OP 100%. Like you I will be going into ME3 spoiler free from anything not officially released through trailers or the demo. I have lightly browsed topic headings in the spoiler sections of the forum and to most peoples credit they have not spoiled in the thread titles. I must say however  that those who chose to spoil them selves get no pity from me. Reading some leaked notes and ****ing about endings to a game they have not played is idiotic.

[Zannana]

tez19 wrote...

nelly21 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

I am not personally offended, they do not know me, there is nothing personal about it. I am just extremely disappointed that they used to make games i thoroughly enjoyed and are now making games that are action based and ten a penny to be honest. They do not stand out as a RPG master developer anymore, they are a mediocre action developer, with a bit of talking. Bioware in steep decline.

Just so we're on the same page here. To you steep decline means more popular than before right? Because unless that is your definition, I can't even begin to fathom how you make that argument.

DA2 done well on pre orders, something that will NOT happen with DA3. Same with ME2 it done well on pre-orders and was a decent game but not as good as the original, and by no means the disaster DA2 was. ME3 will do very well, mainly due to it being the series finale and people want to see Shepards story out. After ME3 they will not do as well, DA3 will bomb completely unless it does a 180 and back to its original roots, DAO. ME3 will be all champagne and sunshine for Bioware, the decline will come after.

Can you read my future as well? how do you do it? Tarot? runes?
I love how some people's opinions are set into stone eventhough they have yet to play the game.

[Alexius]

tez19 wrote...

nelly21 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

I am not personally offended, they do not know me, there is nothing personal about it. I am just extremely disappointed that they used to make games i thoroughly enjoyed and are now making games that are action based and ten a penny to be honest. They do not stand out as a RPG master developer anymore, they are a mediocre action developer, with a bit of talking. Bioware in steep decline.

Just so we're on the same page here. To you steep decline means more popular than before right? Because unless that is your definition, I can't even begin to fathom how you make that argument.

DA2 done well on pre orders, something that will NOT happen with DA3. Same with ME2 it done well on pre-orders and was a decent game but not as good as the original, and by no means the disaster DA2 was. ME3 will do very well, mainly due to it being the series finale and people want to see Shepards story out. After ME3 they will not do as well, DA3 will bomb completely unless it does a 180 and back to its original roots, DAO. ME3 will be all champagne and sunshine for Bioware, the decline will come after.

Geez, do you have the DeLorean or something? 'Cause I don't see any logical reasoning behind your statement, to be honest. I mean, I don't know how you went from "I didn't like DA2" to "BioWare will cease to exist in the near future".

[Tom Jolly]

Everything I've heard indicates that this is going to be a landmark game, that will be near and dear to my heart for years to come.  I believe it, and I am beside myself with anticipation.  The one exception could be the intro of the game, which felt fast to me.

[nelly21]

tez19 wrote...

DA2 mostly sold on pre-orders, something i extremely regret adding too. GOTY for ME2, yes it was an ok game not as good as ME1 though and please, which game nowadays doesn't win GOTY from some award show. Most anticipated game as it is the FINAL IN THE TRILOGY AGAIN. A highly anticipated game. The decline will come AFTER, AFTER, AFTER. Understand?

After what? After ME 3? After DA 3? After Command & Conquer? When will this decline come? I want to prepare. Truth be told, I hope the decline comes soon. BioWare has completely ignored their core/old school/original fan base for too long. We action mech game purists demand satisfaction! Where the hell is Shattered Steel 2?!?!?!?!?

[Duncaaaaaan]

SLPr0 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

I'm thinking it's going the same way as DA2, it will be met with critical acclaim from the critics, the user score on metacritic will be around 2 or 3 out of 10, and it will sell well. Not amazingly well, but good enough.

Bioware will almost certainly be shut down or something.

Yes I'm sure your Reddit group is already poised and ready to bomb the Metacritic User Score rating.

Reddit?

yeah sure. I haven't ever been to Reddit before, fool.

[SLPr0]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

SLPr0 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

I'm thinking it's going the same way as DA2, it will be met with critical acclaim from the critics, the user score on metacritic will be around 2 or 3 out of 10, and it will sell well. Not amazingly well, but good enough.

Bioware will almost certainly be shut down or something.

Yes I'm sure your Reddit group is already poised and ready to bomb the Metacritic User Score rating.

Reddit?

yeah sure. I haven't ever been to Reddit before, fool.

Sounds like a guilty response to me.

[tez19]

nelly21 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

DA2 mostly sold on pre-orders, something i extremely regret adding too. GOTY for ME2, yes it was an ok game not as good as ME1 though and please, which game nowadays doesn't win GOTY from some award show. Most anticipated game as it is the FINAL IN THE TRILOGY AGAIN. A highly anticipated game. The decline will come AFTER, AFTER, AFTER. Understand?

After what? After ME 3? After DA 3? After Command & Conquer? When will this decline come? I want to prepare. Truth be told, I hope the decline comes soon. BioWare has completely ignored their core/old school/original fan base for too long. We action mech game purists demand satisfaction! Where the hell is Shattered Steel 2?!?!?!?!?

After ME3.

[DaJe]

nelly21 wrote...

tez19 wrote...

DA2 done well on pre orders, something that will NOT happen with DA3. Same with ME2 it done well on pre-orders and was a decent game but not as good as the original, and by no means the disaster DA2 was. ME3 will do very well, mainly due to it being the series finale and people want to see Shepards story out. After ME3 they will not do as well, DA3 will bomb completely unless it does a 180 and back to its original roots, DAO. ME3 will be all champagne and sunshine for Bioware, the decline will come after.

You'll have to excuse me. I'm not as prophetic as you. I'm very much stuck in the present (post GOTY honors for ME 2, over a million sales for DA 2, Most Anticipated Game of 2012 for ME 3, none of which matter to you I know).

Tell me, how many survive the end of the world? Is it anarchy? Most importantly, does Justin Bieber survive?

How many of the DA2 sales are due to the credit of the game it self? Did you see how drasticly the sales dropped after the game was out and it was clear what it was? EA sure did, when they drasticly reduced to the price AND packed it together with the GOTY ME2. There actually is very little demand for a game like DA2.

Yeah the predorder frenzy wont happen again with DA3. And if it does, then gamers are incredibly short sighted.

[nelly21]

tez19 wrote...

After ME3.

Hmm. So much to prepare for. Tell me, when the decline begins, do they see the error in their ways and return to the fans that got them here (i.e. the Shattered Steel fans)?

[nevar00]

yesikareyes wrote...

A true fan supports what they love no matter what. Just like Resident Evil, everyone hated the movies but I love it to death. Well, Tekken the movie is my only exception! lol but that's maybe because I'm not really a hardcore fan of Tekken.

So we should be blind fanboys?

[SLPr0]

Arguing on the internet...dot dot dot and all that.

Anyways, oddly enough I liked DA:O and I liked DA:2.

I liked Mass Effect, and I liked Mass Effect 2, though I felt Christina Norman's NG+ cut a lot of the RPG out of the game it did work out fairly well in the end, and seems like a lot of the complaints about NG+ have been given some ground for ME3 so, whats to lose? 80 bucks? I can blow that in 60 seconds at a strip club watching my wife get worked over by a bisexual sex bomb.

You people take yourselves way too seriously. Games are fun, if you're not having fun, go do something you find fun.

[DarthCaine]

Seeing as BiowEAre is aiming at Call of Duty bots, it can't possibly be a commercial failure

[nelly21]

DarthCaine wrote...

Seeing as BiowEAre is aiming at Call of Duty bots, it can't possibly be a commercial failure

It never ceases to amaze me how the "intelligent" rpg purists can't seem to make the simple distinction between First Person Shooters (COD) and Third Person Shooters (Gears of War).

I'm sure they're simply making a point that us mere non-purists are too simple to understand.

[agn25]

SLPr0 wrote...

Arguing on the internet...dot dot dot and all that.

Anyways, oddly enough I liked DA:O and I liked DA:2.

I liked Mass Effect, and I liked Mass Effect 2, though I felt Christina Norman's NG+ cut a lot of the RPG out of the game it did work out fairly well in the end, and seems like a lot of the complaints about NG+ have been given some ground for ME3 so, whats to lose? 80 bucks? I can blow that in 60 seconds at a strip club watching my wife get worked over by a bisexual sex bomb.

You people take yourselves way too seriously. Games are fun, if you're not having fun, go do something you find fun.

 But if you film it and upload it to the internet you might get your money back. If your wife and the bisexual SEX BOMB are good looking atleast.

[Han Shot First]

I'm optimistic.

All the doom and gloom is based solely on fan speculation. None of us actually knows how the game will be until we play it, and as far as I know there are no people on the BSN who got a space copy.

[Kreid]

I'm pretty sure it's going to be very good.