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[Multiplayer optional LOL]

Yup thanks LOL. Updated the OP. Good gawd. People have to remember that what they say cannot be unsaid.

[Dreogan]

He added: "I honestly think the player base is going to be really happy with the way we've done it. You had a part in it. Every decision you've made will impact how things go. The player's also the architect of what happens. "Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending. BioWare will not do a "Lost" and leave fans with more questions than answers after finishing the game, Gamble promised.

Oh boy, instead of ending like Lost the ending of our game is just as deep as Lost's first thirty seconds! Nothing that happened before even needed screen time!

After three games building up to this ending, we get a half-assed attempt at resolution that's 90% the same no matter what we decided along the way. Hardly worth considering your decisions if the ending doesn't care one way or the other, right? Next time, don't bother with "wasting" the resources to give us choice if you aren't going to follow through with an acceptable ending. The endings (not the quality of what is there, but rather its shallowness compared to the depth of the rest of the series) demote the entire trilogy from "possibe legend" to "trashy pulp".

Modifié par Dreogan, 03 mars 2012 - 03:49 .

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Multiplayer optional LOL wrote...

I'm still trying to find that GOLDEN quote from a BW/EA bigwig (its not Casey) who said something to the likes of "Mass Effect 3 will be the greatest game we've ever made".

Once I find it Imma put it on the first post IN BOLD.


On a related note:
Seems like the mods are resorting to a more diplomatically acceptable method of getting threads they dont like locked - log on to trolling accounts like Finalfantasy84 to egg people into breaking the rules or going off topic.

http://www.computera...out-selling-out

On the third page:

We're making Mass effect 3 to be the best game we've ever made. That would make it one of the best games ever, and we're hoping to see sales that reflect that.

BUT

Do you ever consider going down the prequel route?
What I will say is that we designed Mass Effect 3 to be a new beginning. This series definitely doesn't end with Mass Effect 3.

Edit: Too late. But still, "a new beginning"... That one is honest. Let's kill/strand everyone!

Edit 2: From second page

You don't need to be like: 'Well, what about when I had this love affair?' It's like, who cares? It's all out war!

Modifié par Ghost Rider LSOV, 02 mars 2012 - 11:32 .

[bas273]

Bioware is like the Council. They keep dismissing our claims that (large parts of) their games suck and instead they prefer to listen to the "professional" gaming journalists and all the GOTY awards. Which is quite natural, it's easier to accept praise than listen to criticism. But it doesn't change anything to the facts.
Sadly there's no way to launch Reapers at them, but threads like these might help .

[Lucy Glitter]

In all honesty, guys, most people with a level head will not read any reviews if they know what's good for them. It's a piece of advice as old as the business itself.

If you read too many bad reviews, you feel **** about yourself. If you read too many good ones, you think you can do no wrong. There are only a few in the world that can truly handle a review and not be swayed by it.

Just a bit of background info for you from someone who has a bit of experience in that field.

[Multiplayer optional LOL]

Looking for some alleged quote where BW said that one of the possible endings has the Reapers winning...

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Multiplayer optional LOL wrote...

Looking for some alleged quote where BW said that one of the possible endings has the Reapers winning...

Didn't they retcon that quote with a "it's the game over" ?

[MAZ77]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Multiplayer optional LOL wrote...

Looking for some alleged quote where BW said that one of the possible endings has the Reapers winning...

Didn't they retcon that quote with a "it's the game over" ?

Wasn't that Bioware's "classy" answer to the question whether or not we can side with Cerberus during the game? Bioware answered: "Let Shepard die and don't restart".


I think Bioware stated that they removed the "Reapers-win" scenario because they thought most players would simply restart the game anyway...

[AwakenxBenihime]

Thanks for the lulz guys...

even if they make me sad laugh..

[Ksandor]

bas273 wrote...

Bioware is like the Council. They keep dismissing our claims that (large parts of) their games suck and instead they prefer to listen to the "professional" gaming journalists and all the GOTY awards. Which is quite natural, it's easier to accept praise than listen to criticism. But it doesn't change anything to the facts.
Sadly there's no way to launch Reapers at them, but threads like these might help .

In PR business you either please professional writers, neutralize them (by isolating/ignoring, and not making advertorials ect) or buy them (buying is done by the companies not PR companies). Anyway journalists are usually positive to most game makers because they do not want to lose their popularity and news sources. So in practice you don't usually have to buy them outright. Because they cannot antagonize a powerful company like EA. You can criticise a game title but not a company which releases hundreds of games. Hypothetically what IGN can do if EA totally stops providing them game material or stops asking them to attend events for any reason? Can IGN say things we say here, about Mass Effect 3 for instance to the extend we say? If they upset the PR company they will not be invited to events and will not be able to interview employees. Disclaimer: I do not imply any specific company in these scenarios. I just explain the business rules in hypothetical situations.

I am in PR sector and I know an international IT company which invited some journalists to a bachelor party in Cyprus last year so to speak.

Modifié par Ksandor, 02 mars 2012 - 01:39 .

[Guldhun2]

"I think the exciting thing in the final chapter of the series is going to be just seeing where everything goes that we started"

Casey Hudson CES 2010

"You have to be open and take feedback…We've made our games better largely on press feedback. If you have humility it means you don't get indignant [about negative feedback]."

Greg Zeschuk Develop 2010

Modifié par Guldhun2, 02 mars 2012 - 01:58 .

[Mims]

Dreogan wrote...
[image]

+20. Seriously, I find that quote to be the most ironic of them all.

[tangalin]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

In all honesty, guys, most people with a level head will not read any reviews if they know what's good for them. It's a piece of advice as old as the business itself.

If you read too many bad reviews, you feel **** about yourself. If you read too many good ones, you think you can do no wrong. There are only a few in the world that can truly handle a review and not be swayed by it.

Just a bit of background info for you from someone who has a bit of experience in that field.

Personally, the only reviewer I trust is Angry Joe. He doesn't sugar coat things, even if he thinks its a great game, he will still tell you about bad things that might make you want to reconsider. Oh, and he actually uses a 10 point rating system instead of a 3 point system disguised as a 10 point system.

[RiouHotaru]

Man, it's going to be hilarious when the game finally does come out and everyone was whining over nothing.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Man, it's going to be hilarious when the game finally does come out and everyone was whining over nothing.

If that happens, yeah.

If not...?

[Youknow]

Mims wrote...

Dreogan wrote...
[image]

+20. Seriously, I find that quote to be the most ironic of them all.

Indeed. I was thinking the same thing. 

[BellPeppers&Beef023]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Man, it's going to be hilarious when the game finally does come out and everyone was whining over nothing.

I'm sure me and many others would love to be proven wrong in this case.

[Emerald Rift]

tangalin wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

In all honesty, guys, most people with a level head will not read any reviews if they know what's good for them. It's a piece of advice as old as the business itself.

If you read too many bad reviews, you feel **** about yourself. If you read too many good ones, you think you can do no wrong. There are only a few in the world that can truly handle a review and not be swayed by it.

Just a bit of background info for you from someone who has a bit of experience in that field.

Personally, the only reviewer I trust is Angry Joe. He doesn't sugar coat things, even if he thinks its a great game, he will still tell you about bad things that might make you want to reconsider. Oh, and he actually uses a 10 point rating system instead of a 3 point system disguised as a 10 point system.

I will interested to see what Angry Joe has to say about this game...I'm seeing Dragon Age 2 review but worse...

[BellPeppers&Beef023]

Stamina Rose wrote...

tangalin wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

In all honesty, guys, most people with a level head will not read any reviews if they know what's good for them. It's a piece of advice as old as the business itself.

If you read too many bad reviews, you feel **** about yourself. If you read too many good ones, you think you can do no wrong. There are only a few in the world that can truly handle a review and not be swayed by it.

Just a bit of background info for you from someone who has a bit of experience in that field.

Personally, the only reviewer I trust is Angry Joe. He doesn't sugar coat things, even if he thinks its a great game, he will still tell you about bad things that might make you want to reconsider. Oh, and he actually uses a 10 point rating system instead of a 3 point system disguised as a 10 point system.

I will interested to see what Angry Joe has to say about this game...I'm seeing Dragon Age 2 review but worse...

Impossibru!!!!!

In all seriousness, he did like ME2 alot, so the gameplay deparment in ME3 is pretty secure. But u r right. I would love to see his reaction to the ending.

[PoisonGirlRain]

The cake is a lie.

[Favourite store on the CitadeI]

Multiplayer optional LOL wrote...

I don't know where that original thread went, but it contained an awesome compilation of all the quotes BW made about ME3 that is worth looking through again, now that we know how the game is going to be like. I'm trying to rebuild the list, and would love to have some help.

THESE ARE NOT MADE UP. Source will be quoted where available. And try to stay civil and within topic. Don't give them easy excuses to lock the thread, because I'm damn sure they're itching to.
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"BioWare has confirmed that Mass Effect 3's storyline may change in response to fan feedback. Following a mistakenly-released beta that led to leaked story files, co-founder Greg Zeschuk says that the development team is actively paying attention to fans' input.

"We listen to our fans all of the time," Muzyka said. "We listen to them on the forums, their feedback from stories. We're reading it all. If we can get ideas out of it that will make the game better, sure. We're not adverse to taking feedback. That's part of our core values, is humility [Hi Stanley!]. Any time we get a good idea from fans... they're our audience. They keep us in business."

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"We have a really talented team of writers. We go through iteration after iteration, making it the best and most satisfying we can," he said.

"It's going to make some people extremely happy. It's going to make some people angry. But that's part of it, right? To invoke the emotion putting some of these stories to bed will naturally bring up.

He added: "I honestly think the player base is going to be really happy with the way we've done it. You had a part in it. Every decision you've made will impact how things go. The player's also the architect of what happens. "Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending. BioWare will not do a "Lost" and leave fans with more questions than answers after finishing the game, Gamble promised.

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"If players achieved a love interest in both Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, then both previous love interests will be vying for Shepard's attention in Mass Effect 3."

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"As Mass Effect 3 is the end of the planned trilogy, the developers are not constrained by the necessity of allowing the story to diverge, yet also continue into the next chapter. This will result in a story that diverges into wildly different conclusions based on the player's actions in the first two chapters." - Casey Hudson

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"This [ME3] is really the best place to start playing the Mass Effect series, this is the beginning, middle and end of the whole galactic war," - Casey Hudson

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"We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…" - Mike Gamble
http://www.gamezone.com/products/mass-effect-3/news/mass-effect-3-boasts-many-different-endings

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Mass Effect 3 to be more "lighthearted" <-- WHAT THE HEWL?
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/articles/138202-mass-effect-3-to-be-more-lighthearted

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"Certainly it’s a very polished experience. In the story it starts at a time with a very singular focus and purpose in the galaxy. You could say the previous games were just a preamble to this moment. Everything has been building to this. It’s like the Superbowl. Who cares what happened in the regular season? Now’s the one that matters.
“Fans want a definitive end. They’ll be the judge of that ultimately when they play it and see how we do that. Certainly, what this game absolutely does represent is the culmination of almost a decade’s worth of work for the studio and for Casey [Hudson] and his team in terms of exactly what we’re trying to do with the game we kicked off almost ten years ago.
“They’re working really hard to make it a real proper conclusion, something that’s fitting to what they’ve worked on for so long, and what the fans are telling us they’re dying to see. - Aaron Flynn
http://www.vg247.com...-mass-effect-3/

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We're making Mass effect 3 to be the best game we've ever made. That would make it one of the best games ever, and we're hoping to see sales that reflect that.

http://www.computera...ing-out/?page=3

seeing this makes me think good god

[Multiplayer optional LOL]

Updated the OP. Anyone got that quote on ME3 'will make you cry' plus some tweets from VAs talking about how it was 'very emotional' after they wrapped things up.

Yup...I think I know why they were crying now.

[Favourite store on the CitadeI]

Multiplayer optional LOL wrote...

Updated the OP. Anyone got that quote on ME3 'will make you cry' plus some tweets from VAs talking about how it was 'very emotional' after they wrapped things up.

Yup...I think I know why they were crying now.

they were crying because the endings were so ****

[Sashimi_taco]

I'm still having a hard time believing that they wrote out the ending, animated them, and had people test on their responses, and at no point did someone go, "this is horrible".

[Elite Midget]

Ywasibanned wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

You know some of us have being point this out for years but many of you refused to listen and held on the hope that things would get better game after game after game.

Yup. You were right. I hoped you weren't but you were. Doesn't matter though. Soul has been crushed 

I didn't wish to be right, I was just preparing people for the worst. However, Bioware ended up turning my bleak prophecy into something far more sinister than I could have imagined. Not good, I would have rather be wrong than be right in this type of situation since I dedicated years to this series and have been a fan since KOTR and Baldur's Gate.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 02 mars 2012 - 04:30 .