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[Shahadem]

Comrade Goby wrote...

Tom Jolly wrote...

"Mass effect 3 is an action game, based on Japanese history. Being based on history.... "

Oh no! Here comes this GIANT ENEMY REAPER! 

Attack him in his weak spot for MASSIVE DAMAGE 

"Genji 2 is an action game which is based on Japanese history. The stages of the game will also be based on famous battles that actually took place in ancient Japan ... so here's this giant enemy crab ... flip over this crab on its back ... and you attack its weak point for massive damage"

Video: 

[Multiplayer optional LOL]

Yet more updates. Gawd dayum. They're really hyping this game. With lies

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Eterna5 wrote...

"Mass Effect 3 will not end like a traditional war story (Kick an enemies ass, proceed to celebration/calibrations)[PS3M]"

Guess that one is honest.

[Sarah_SR2]

Mass Effect 3 depicts all out galactic war. There are seldom any happy endings in war - many people die, some lose everything and some sacrifice for the greater good. I guess I'm in a minority here on the forum but I think the dark (potential) endings are the right way for the story arcs to end. Yes it'll be sad to see our band of heroes stranded and maybe even doomed to die, but the Reapers must be stopped and as the saying goes, "the needs of he many out way the the needs of the few, or the one". Shepard and the Normandy crew know this and are all prepared to make whatever sacrifices are necessary to prevent galactic genocide and species extinction. After all, that's why we helped them find closure in ME2 ahead of the SM as they knew it was a potential one way trip. I say that BioWare have been very bold and brave in making these endings but they are bang on the money in my opinion.

[robyn278]

God, I love this thread! I think my personal favourite quote is the one about ME3 being more lighthearted. Lol! What a load of crap.

[Ieldra]

This is my favorite:

"How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?"

Yeah, I'm asking myself exactly that as I see....

Ending 1: Relays explode, galactic civilization is fubared, Normandy gets stranded.
Ending 2: Relays explode, galactic civilization is fubared, Normandy gets stranded.
Ending 3: Relays explode, galactic civilization is fubared, Normandy gets stranded.

Oh yes I forgot - it's all in red, green or blue. Destroy the universe in RGB, that's what we're getting.

I love the final choice and the themes it touches, but I was prepared to let Shepard die to save galactic civilization. "Somewhere in the galaxy, life goes on", that's not enough to be emotionally satisfying.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 03 mars 2012 - 12:32 .

[AkiKishi]

Sarah_SR2 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 depicts all out galactic war. There are seldom any happy endings in war - many people die, some lose everything and some sacrifice for the greater good. I guess I'm in a minority here on the forum but I think the dark (potential) endings are the right way for the story arcs to end. Yes it'll be sad to see our band of heroes stranded and maybe even doomed to die, but the Reapers must be stopped and as the saying goes, "the needs of he many out way the the needs of the few, or the one". Shepard and the Normandy crew know this and are all prepared to make whatever sacrifices are necessary to prevent galactic genocide and species extinction. After all, that's why we helped them find closure in ME2 ahead of the SM as they knew it was a potential one way trip. I say that BioWare have been very bold and brave in making these endings but they are bang on the money in my opinion.

Shepard is the one that does the damage. First rule of modern warfare that the fight to them, that way their infrastructure gets screwed not yours.

The Galaxy would have been better off if they had just let the Reapers do their thing and hope the next guys managed it better. Just like the Protheans did.

It's an ending that not only lacks in any sort of satisfaction, but makes what you did before completely pointless.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 03 mars 2012 - 12:53 .

[Ianamus]

Sarah_SR2 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 depicts all out galactic war. There are seldom any happy endings in war - many people die, some lose everything and some sacrifice for the greater good. I guess I'm in a minority here on the forum but I think the dark (potential) endings are the right way for the story arcs to end. Yes it'll be sad to see our band of heroes stranded and maybe even doomed to die, but the Reapers must be stopped and as the saying goes, "the needs of he many out way the the needs of the few, or the one". Shepard and the Normandy crew know this and are all prepared to make whatever sacrifices are necessary to prevent galactic genocide and species extinction. After all, that's why we helped them find closure in ME2 ahead of the SM as they knew it was a potential one way trip. I say that BioWare have been very bold and brave in making these endings but they are bang on the money in my opinion.

But the Normandy dosent "sacrifice" Itself. There is absolutely no reason it had to go flying off into the middle of nowhere when the battle was on Earth. If all of them getting stranded actually meant something or was vital to stopping the Reapers it would be slightly different- but it seems like the only reason they weren't on Earth fighting until the end was to slap fans across the face, even though it made more sense.

"As Mass Effect 3 is the end of the planned trilogy, the developers are not constrained by the necessity of allowing the story to diverge, yet also continue into the next chapter. This will result in a story that diverges into wildly different conclusions based on the player's actions in the first two chapters." - Casey Hudson

This is my favourite, since they obviously shoehorned the endidngs into the same basic thing for the next game. 

Modifié par EJ107, 03 mars 2012 - 01:00 .

[Ahms]

bas273 wrote...

The original thread: http://social.biowar...index/9556117/1

They posted no reason for locking it. Let's see how many pages this topic can reach before END OF LINE.

Did you read the OP? It had no class. I felt like I wanted to ban OP (temp ban), not only lock the thread.

[fivefingaslap18]

If the game is good, these quotes will really be laugh out loud moments. If not, and all of these things are factually false, when it comes to marketing, that could technically be suitable for some form of backlash. Time will tell.

[Lukeskymac]

Ieldra2 wrote...

This is my favorite:

"How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?"

Yeah, I'm asking myself exactly that as I see....

Ending 1: Relays explode, galactic civilization is fubared, Normandy gets stranded.
Ending 2: Relays explode, galactic civilization is fubared, Normandy gets stranded.
Ending 3: Relays explode, galactic civilization is fubared, Normandy gets stranded.

Oh yes I forgot - it's all in red, green or blue. Destroy the universe in RGB, that's what we're getting.

I love the final choice and the themes it touches, but I was prepared to let Shepard die to save galactic civilization. "Somewhere in the galaxy, life goes on", that's not enough to be emotionally satisfying.

When you put it that way:

Mass Effect 1:

Ending 1: Shepard wins.
Ending 2: Shepard wins

Mass Effect 2:
Ending 1: Shepard wins
Ending 2: Shepard dies.

[NovemEnuma]

 Yeah.

[Lukeskymac]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Shepard is the one that does the damage. First rule of modern warfare that the fight to them, that way their infrastructure gets screwed not yours.

The Galaxy would have been better off if they had just let the Reapers do their thing and hope the next guys managed it better. Just like the Protheans did.

It's an ending that not only lacks in any sort of satisfaction, but makes what you did before completely pointless.

Incorrect. How can you say that with a straight face? You're telling me they should just let the cycle continue? THAT would make "
what you did before completely pointless."

You're SAVING THE GODDAMNED GALAXY. Go cry in a corner because you don't get a wedding with your LI

And how could  "what you did before completely pointless." if along the game YOU DECIDE WHICH SPECIES SURVIVE AND WHICH DON'T?

As far as I am concerned, Mass Effect 3 has more varied outcomings than Mass Effect 2 wish it could have.

[Grand Wazoo]

Lukeskymac wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

This is my favorite:

"How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?"

Yeah, I'm asking myself exactly that as I see....

Ending 1: Relays explode, galactic civilization is fubared, Normandy gets stranded.
Ending 2: Relays explode, galactic civilization is fubared, Normandy gets stranded.
Ending 3: Relays explode, galactic civilization is fubared, Normandy gets stranded.

Oh yes I forgot - it's all in red, green or blue. Destroy the universe in RGB, that's what we're getting.

I love the final choice and the themes it touches, but I was prepared to let Shepard die to save galactic civilization. "Somewhere in the galaxy, life goes on", that's not enough to be emotionally satisfying.

When you put it that way:

Mass Effect 1:

Ending 1: Shepard wins.
Ending 2: Shepard wins

Mass Effect 2:
Ending 1: Shepard wins
Ending 2: Shepard dies.

There is a difference between ending a single game and ending a culmination of a trilogy that most of us have followed for 5 years

[Sashimi_taco]

Lets try and keep this topic on topic. If you want to complain about the endings and such put it in the threads about the endings.

I really like this topic and I don't want it to be locked down. Please everyone go back to broken Dev promise quotes.

[Lukeskymac]

Grand Wazoo wrote...
There is a difference between ending a single game and ending a culmination of a trilogy that most of us have followed for 5 years

Yes, there is a difference. 3 DIFFERENT TYPES of endings will exist. And none of them are cheesy. Like it should be.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Lukeskymac wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Shepard is the one that does the damage. First rule of modern warfare that the fight to them, that way their infrastructure gets screwed not yours.

The Galaxy would have been better off if they had just let the Reapers do their thing and hope the next guys managed it better. Just like the Protheans did.

It's an ending that not only lacks in any sort of satisfaction, but makes what you did before completely pointless.

Incorrect. How can you say that with a straight face? You're telling me they should just let the cycle continue? THAT would make "
what you did before completely pointless."

You're SAVING THE GODDAMNED GALAXY. Go cry in a corner because you don't get a wedding with your LI

And how could  "what you did before completely pointless." if along the game YOU DECIDE WHICH SPECIES SURVIVE AND WHICH DON'T?

As far as I am concerned, Mass Effect 3 has more varied outcomings than Mass Effect 2 wish it could have.

Yeah, but the problem is, it's the end of a trilogy, why don't we get an epilogue that tells us who lived/how and what outcome did our choices have in the end?

"To Be Continued.../You will learn in the next game"?

This is not a definite end for me...

Modifié par Ghost Rider LSOV, 03 mars 2012 - 04:07 .

[Lukeskymac]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Lets try and keep this topic on topic. If you want to complain about the endings and such put it in the threads about the endings.

I really like this topic and I don't want it to be locked down. Please everyone go back to broken Dev promise quotes.

Then I guess this thread should be locked for breaking the zero tolerance policy. If you think the quotes which are simply devs saying they think this game will be their best are lies when you have not even played the goddamned thing, you should be banned.

[Lukeskymac]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Yeah, but the problem is, it's the end of a trilogy, why don't we get an epilogue that tells us who lived/how and what outcome did our choices have in the end?

"To Be Continued.../You will learn in the next game"?

This is not a definite end for me...

-You don't need and epilogue to end a trilogy. That's usually fanservice.
-They are not "To Be Continued" endings.

Edit: Essentially you're asking for "And then Tali got her house on the homeworld, Garrus finally finished his calibrations, and everyone lived happily ever after. TEH END"

Modifié par Lukeskymac, 03 mars 2012 - 04:11 .

[The Makatak]

Remember when this game was marketed as a space opera, and not an attempt to actually portray an intergalactic war?

...Remember when this game was a space opera, and not an attempt to actually portray an intergalactic war?

[Lukeskymac]

The Makatak wrote...

Remember when this game was marketed as a space opera, and not an attempt to actually portray an intergalactic war?

...Remember when this game was a space opera, and not an attempt to actually portray an intergalactic war?

They are not mutually exclusive.

[Sashimi_taco]

Lukeskymac wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Lets try and keep this topic on topic. If you want to complain about the endings and such put it in the threads about the endings.

I really like this topic and I don't want it to be locked down. Please everyone go back to broken Dev promise quotes.

Then I guess this thread should be locked for breaking the zero tolerance policy. If you think the quotes which are simply devs saying they think this game will be their best are lies when you have not even played the goddamned thing, you should be banned.

I don't agree on that point seeing as I am not threatening them or even having ill will against them. 

[iamthedave3]

Lukeskymac wrote...

Grand Wazoo wrote...
There is a difference between ending a single game and ending a culmination of a trilogy that most of us have followed for 5 years

Yes, there is a difference. 3 DIFFERENT TYPES of endings will exist. And none of them are cheesy. Like it should be.

A Deus Ex Machina god bolt to destroy all the enemy in one fell swoop isn't cheesy?

What I've yet to understand is why - keeping in all the interesting non-happy endings - it's somehow impossible to have one that doesn't result in the Normandy crashing. What about the actual choices Shephard makes means the Normany MUST crash there?

There is no reason. It's arbitrary, done for false drama. 'Different' doesn't mean 'better' and 'dark' doesn't mean 'deep'.

For all the flaws in Deus Ex: Human Revolution, the endings of that game did it well. none of them were good, bad or even middling. They were genuine philosophical choices which radically changed the world (or would if we went onwards, anyway). This is going for that, but misses the mark via forced drama and non-choices in a game supposedly all about the choices you make.

The choice to 'blow up the relays' 'blow up the relays' and 'blow up the relays' is not much of a choice.

Modifié par iamthedave3, 03 mars 2012 - 04:16 .