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[corporal doody]

looks like BALANCE changes are indeed in the works. WITH ALL THE GRIEFERS these past few weeks....what REALISTIC changes do you forsee to your beloved class? rather...what DO you forsee being nerfed and/or buffed?



for me...all the griefing about my beloved asari adept and her stasis bubble has me worried that a nerf will be implimented that will make the asari adept nowhere near as fun and turns her near ineffective.

i also think the damage a soldier will deal with a weapon will be buffed.

[Mand0l1n]

Agreed. No nerfing on stasis please. Better to buff weaker elements than nerf the good stuff. Tech armour certainly needs a buff.

[K2daE]

Yup, they have said in another thread the only thing getting nerfed is stasis. Im guessing they will get rid of/reduce the 150% damage point. Just a guess though.

Modifié par K2daE, 02 mars 2012 - 09:56 .

[themaxzero]

K2daE wrote...

Yup, they have said in another thread the only thing getting nerfed is statis. Im guessing they will get rid of/reduce the 150% damage point. Just a guess though.

Link?

[K2daE]

http://social.biowar...3/index/9509849 Its in here somewhere

Edit, Page 6

Modifié par K2daE, 02 mars 2012 - 09:58 .

[corporal doody]

K2daE wrote...

http://social.biowar...3/index/9509849 Its in here somewhere

Edit, Page 6

CRAP!!!! WEAK!!!!!

they are nerfing something that may only be effective against organics...and not as good against synthetics. I hope the nerf isnt that bad....BUT I DO BLAME THE GRIEFERS!!!  


im still going to play a asari adept though...just upsets me

Modifié par corporal doody, 02 mars 2012 - 10:05 .

[TheMightyG00sh]

Just for quicker reference here are the dev posts from the thread K2daE linked to:

Eric Fagnan wrote...

The demo allowed us to gather a lot of feedback on all the kits and we will be making balance changes to many of them as the game comes out. We'll keep you posted on all the changes.

Eric Fagnan wrote...

Of course it's always better to buff than to nerf, but you can't always do that. I can say that we only have a single nerf under consideration and the rest are buffs

Eric Fagnan wrote...

Well, I think it's pretty clear from the feedback on the forums and from our own internal playtests that Stasis is a little too powerful, so we're considering a slight nerf to it. It won't be a huge nerf because Stasis is not nearly as effective against the other factions.

Modifié par TheMightyG00sh, 02 mars 2012 - 10:07 .

[wicked_being]

Why would anyone complain about something that'd make their life easier?

[lolspawn]

there is no pvp in this game. the word nerf should not even be used in these fourms.

no reason to "nerf" anything

Modifié par lolspawn, 02 mars 2012 - 10:23 .

[TheMightyG00sh]

Based on what Eric said, here are my guesses on what the proposed balance changes will be:

Buff to Tech Armour (Reduction or Removal of the 80% Recharge Slowdown or perhaps removing Tech Armour from Global Cooldown making it similar to Fortification)

Nerf to Stasis (Reduction or removal of the 150% damage bonus when Stasises, or removal of Bubble...)

Buff to Soldiers... threee possiblities:
Adrenaline Rush (Perhaps an increase in Rate of Fire and Movement Speed since Time Dilation isn't possible in MP) OR Buff to Soldier's weapon damage OR  Increase in Base Weight Points

Buff to Singularity (Perhaps increase duration/Have the  Singularity Detonation go off even when used i.e. Wit an enemy inside, after it ends due to use and have it augment Warp Bombs)

Buff to Drell (han increase in durability OR Better Crowd Control... perhaps having it's barrier being higher then others or giving Pull a buff...)

[redafro]

aaaaaaaawwwwwww a nerf of stasis? lame

[K2daE]

Hopefully they will do something with Tech Armour explosion. Either make it automatic when shields go down or give it an added effect (stun etc). Cause right now its not worth it.

[MetallicaRulez0]

Tech Armor basically just needs the cooldown increase removed, and the explosion should happen when your shields go down like in ME2. I can count on one hand the amount of times I've actually activated the armor explosion.

[frostycyke]

TheMightyG00sh wrote...

Based on what Eric said, here are my guesses on what the proposed balance changes will be:

Buff to Tech Armour (Reduction or Removal of the 80% Recharge Slowdown or perhaps removing Tech Armour from Global Cooldown making it similar to Fortification)

Nerf to Stasis (Reduction or removal of the 150% damage bonus when Stasises, or removal of Bubble...)

Buff to Soldiers... threee possiblities:
Adrenaline Rush (Perhaps an increase in Rate of Fire and Movement Speed since Time Dilation isn't possible in MP) OR Buff to Soldier's weapon damage OR  Increase in Base Weight Points

Buff to Singularity (Perhaps increase duration/Have the  Singularity Detonation go off even when used i.e. Wit an enemy inside, after it ends due to use and have it augment Warp Bombs)

Buff to Drell (han increase in durability OR Better Crowd Control... perhaps having it's barrier being higher then others or giving Pull a buff...)

I can't find anything to complain about to any of those suggestions. But it's still early, let me have some coffee and i'll get back to you.

[Mand0l1n]

Re: tech armour - If the explosion happened when your shields went down this would mean being on cooldown at the worst possible moment leaving you extremely exposed. If they moved the cooldown to when you activate the armour this would lead to armour spamming which is what the devs were trying to get people away from.

[Jitawa]

corporal doody wrote...

K2daE wrote...

http://social.biowar...3/index/9509849 Its in here somewhere

Edit, Page 6

CRAP!!!! WEAK!!!!!

they are nerfing something that may only be effective against organics...and not as good against synthetics. I hope the nerf isnt that bad....BUT I DO BLAME THE GRIEFERS!!!  


im still going to play a asari adept though...just upsets me

I'm confused.  In what context could anyone "grief" someone in a co-op game?

[TexasToast712]

 If pistols get nerfed I will be pissed off beyond comprehension. NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO USE A AR!

[TexasToast712]

TheMightyG00sh wrote...

Based on what Eric said, here are my guesses on what the proposed balance changes will be:

Buff to Tech Armour (Reduction or Removal of the 80% Recharge Slowdown or perhaps removing Tech Armour from Global Cooldown making it similar to Fortification)

Nerf to Stasis (Reduction or removal of the 150% damage bonus when Stasises, or removal of Bubble...)

Buff to Soldiers... threee possiblities:
Adrenaline Rush (Perhaps an increase in Rate of Fire and Movement Speed since Time Dilation isn't possible in MP) OR Buff to Soldier's weapon damage OR  Increase in Base Weight Points

Buff to Singularity (Perhaps increase duration/Have the  Singularity Detonation go off even when used i.e. Wit an enemy inside, after it ends due to use and have it augment Warp Bombs)

Buff to Drell (han increase in durability OR Better Crowd Control... perhaps having it's barrier being higher then others or giving Pull a buff...)

I can agree with everything but the Drell buff. Drell are designed to be played as hit and run. This is why they should have been infiltrators in the first place.

[darkblade]

So they are nerfing stasis?
hmmm, interesting wonder if they are going to bring it in line with the other powers (IE, not working through defense) you know so it can be fair.

there is no pvp in this game. the word nerf should not even be used in these fourms.

no reason to "nerf" anything

PvP or lack of is never an excuse to overlook badly balanced powers. Guess we can leave tech armor alone because thier is no PvP right?

[sirjimmus86]

I was wondering already if it hadn't been nerfed (stasis), a few matches I'd notice it just did not work, enemies would run right through my bubble unimpeded. I've since got bored of Adept anyway and gone back to Vanguard, was playing with one yesterday who was having the same issue.

[TexasToast712]

darkblade wrote...

So they are nerfing stasis?
hmmm, interesting wonder if they are going to bring it in line with the other powers (IE, not working through defense) you know so it can be fair.

there is no pvp in this game. the word nerf should not even be used in these fourms.

no reason to "nerf" anything

PvP or lack of is never an excuse to overlook badly balanced powers. Guess we can leave tech armor alone because thier is no PvP right?

Unless something is glaringly broken or OP like a gun that shoots rockets and one shots everything then yes that should be nerfed. Just because one class has a power that is a bit more useful than another isn't.

[ZombieGambit]

corporal doody wrote...

looks like BALANCE changes are indeed in the works. WITH ALL THE GRIEFERS these past few weeks....what REALISTIC changes do you forsee to your beloved class? rather...what DO you forsee being nerfed and/or buffed?



for me...all the griefing about my beloved asari adept and her stasis bubble has me worried that a nerf will be implimented that will make the asari adept nowhere near as fun and turns her near ineffective.

i also think the damage a soldier will deal with a weapon will be buffed.

I don't think you know what griefer means.

[darkblade]

If pistols get nerfed I will be pissed off beyond comprehension. NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO USE A AR!

If pistols get nerfed it will be the best thing for ME3, they are way too good for everything.
-lightweight
-phenomenal DPS (hell there are pistols breaking 400 dmg a shot(base) in the full game)
-Out perform almost every other weapons in most situations.

If feel to carry just a pistol but they should be low damage, moderate range, moderate accuracy. They should be moderate to sub par as a stand alone weapon.

[marshalleck]

Stasis needed a nerf. Good move Bioware. Pistols need to be brought in line as well. They shouldn't make better sniping weapons than the sniper rifles. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 02 mars 2012 - 01:15 .

[maxulic]

The nerf to stasis was more than expected. I see something like the power not working on shielded enemies which was the part making it so OP, it would mean that you would still need someone to strip this Phantom, Engineer or Nemesis from their defense first...