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[The_Other_M]

dw99027 wrote...

What was so good about the LOTR ending other than the Gollum twist. When people praise the books and movies, do they make a special reference to it? Not really. Why? Because it's typical high-fantasy ending.

No, it had good, thorough, generally "happy" endings for the main & side characters. And to a certain extent so did Star Wars:Return of the Jedi, Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, Rocky Balboa, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows, and Metal Gear Solid 4.

Series like The Matrix trilogy, Battlestar Galactica, LOST, and The Sopranos WERE universally praised during their respective runs. However, their series finales(or last movie) KILLED whatever accolades they've accumulated. 

The biggest failure was "The Matrix" series. They had books, comics, anime, video games, MMOs all in the pipeline. Then then Matrix Revolutions came along and destroyed all that.

The lesson is--Terrible endings kill franchises.

[dw99027]

Or make them out of nothing. Think Stephen King.

[BellaStrega]

I pre-ordered in September, and pre-loaded this afternoon. I am ready to go on Tuesday.

Nothing I've heard about the endings has betrayed my expectations.

[Dreogan]

I select "buy used" so Bioware doesn't get a penny from me. Cancel my previous vote for yes.

I don't care about multiplayer. It's not why I was interested in the series, and I'm not going to be strongarmed into "enjoying" it.

Modifié par Dreogan, 03 mars 2012 - 06:43 .

[recentio]

dw99027 wrote...

Or make them out of nothing. Think Stephen King.

Stephen King is brilliant and understands that human relationships are at the heart of every story. The Shining is one of the best books I've ever read, and every single moment that meant anything was either Jack slowly losing his mind because he could never be the man he wanted to be or the family relationships between the characters holding them together against the malevolent force trying to lay claim to Doc (the boy) for his 'Shining'. And this makes an excellent example because The Shining sort of has two endings, the book ending and the movie ending. The endings are similar but distictly different and one thing remains in both: the mother and son are not separated from each other or from the rest of civilization. Jack's death in the book is incredibly tragic and heroic. But the final decision he made was made out of love for his son. A relationship between people was the heart of the story, and in a way that relationship survived even though Jack died because of how he died. It was amazing.

In ME, the malevolent force h*** bent on destroying relationships between protagonist and his 'family' is the writers idea that it would be just peachy if the family/crew were marooned to found an inbreed colony on some gosh-forsaken rock. Shep and his crew are driven apart forever in all 7 endings. Even if that disgusting fate is well written (it probably is), I still can't accept it as the only ending for a game where, allegedly, what I do as a player makes a meaningful difference in guiding the story. I can't make any difference to the one part of the story I want to affect. That sucks. So I'm not going to pay full price.

[Eclipse_9990]

I'm feeling a little better about one of the endings so I think I'll buy it.

[dw99027]

The movie was all thanks to Sir Jack. Any other actor and it would be a huge flop. I agree with most of what you said, though, Recentio, about the Shining.

classics do get treated favorably, though.

[Shahadem]

I'll still buy it but I am going to cover my eyes and sing "lalalalalala" during the first and last 4 hours which I find to be complete nonsence.

Also I just want to add that I found "The Shining" as a movie to be a big dissapointment. I just couldn't bring myself to care for the characters or whether some, all, or none of them were insane.

Modifié par Shahadem, 03 mars 2012 - 07:32 .

[demicraftgod]

I pre-ordered DDE way back in August last year...and I'm sticking with it.
Though through the leak script and NOW we have the preload which contains all the bink video files(which confirmed the leaked script[so all bioware's saying that leak stuff is outdated and whatnot is total b*] that there are only 3 endings and whatnot, limited flashbacks...etc), just went through them...yeah...***ending sucks***
But gonna go ahead and play it anyways...

[dw99027]

Shahadem wrote...

I'll still buy it but I am going to cover my eyes and sing "lalalalalala" during the first and last 4 hours which I find to be complete nonsence.

Also I just want to add that I found "The Shining" as a movie to be a big dissapointment. I just couldn't bring myself to care for the characters or whether some, all, or none of them were insane.

Just watch the Jack Nicholson version. Stanley Kubrik was actually on set for that one.

[What a Succulent Ass]

99,9% of the game is going to be amazing, so yes.

...And SMH at the senselessness of the rest.

[utdan]

I've downgraded from CE to standard edition, but yeah i'm still buying it because the rest of the game looks outstanding and i'm invested in the trilogy. This doesn't change the fact that the choice of endings suck; If this was any other game i wouldn't be buying it first hand.

[Halo Quea]

whoISthatgirl wrote...

I've downgraded from CE to standard edition, but yeah i'm still buying it because the rest of the game looks outstanding and i'm invested in the trilogy. This doesn't change the fact that the choice of endings suck; If this was any other game i wouldn't be buying it first hand.

Interesting that you should say that, because the people who have already played it say that Mass Effect 3 has absolutely NO REPLAY VALUE.   That it's a one-time gamer experience that none of them intend to play-through again because OF the endings.

[utdan]

Halo Quea wrote...

whoISthatgirl wrote...

I've downgraded from CE to standard edition, but yeah i'm still buying it because the rest of the game looks outstanding and i'm invested in the trilogy. This doesn't change the fact that the choice of endings suck; If this was any other game i wouldn't be buying it first hand.

Interesting that you should say that, because the people who have already played it say that Mass Effect 3 has absolutely NO REPLAY VALUE.   That it's a one-time gamer experience that none of them intend to play-through again because OF the endings.

I don't think i implied that it had good replay value, just that the rest of the game looks good. Besides Xoi from the spoilers group was on his 3rd playthrough the last time i checked and has said despite the god awful endings he is enjoying the rest of the game.

I loved the gameplay from ME2, so even if it means completely ignoring the story im sure i'll get at least some enjoyment from ME3. 

[BellaStrega]

Halo Quea wrote...

whoISthatgirl wrote...

I've downgraded from CE to standard edition, but yeah i'm still buying it because the rest of the game looks outstanding and i'm invested in the trilogy. This doesn't change the fact that the choice of endings suck; If this was any other game i wouldn't be buying it first hand.

Interesting that you should say that, because the people who have already played it say that Mass Effect 3 has absolutely NO REPLAY VALUE.   That it's a one-time gamer experience that none of them intend to play-through again because OF the endings.

[citation needed]

Modifié par BellaStrega, 03 mars 2012 - 12:19 .

[Halo Quea]

whoISthatgirl wrote...

Halo Quea wrote...

whoISthatgirl wrote...

I've downgraded from CE to standard edition, but yeah i'm still buying it because the rest of the game looks outstanding and i'm invested in the trilogy. This doesn't change the fact that the choice of endings suck; If this was any other game i wouldn't be buying it first hand.

Interesting that you should say that, because the people who have already played it say that Mass Effect 3 has absolutely NO REPLAY VALUE.   That it's a one-time gamer experience that none of them intend to play-through again because OF the endings.

I don't think i implied that it had good replay value, just that the rest of the game looks good. Besides Xoi from the spoilers group was on his 3rd playthrough the last time i checked and has said despite the god awful endings he is enjoying the rest of the game.

I loved the gameplay from ME2, so even if it means completely ignoring the story im sure i'll get at least some enjoyment from ME3. 

Well for some of us there's no way we'd be able to keep ourselves in the dark about how this all ends,  but if these endings really turn out to be true and Bioware killed it's protagonist TWICE in the SAME story arc......................I'd say it's time for all of us to start looking for a developer with a more creative writing team than Bioware.

Killing Shepard once and then resurrecting him is about as cheap and cliched as gets.  But killing him, resurrecting and then killing him AGAIN reveals an extraordinary lack of creative vision.  I know this is harsh, but these are literary crimes in any story,  the writing team should have known better. 

[Kanmuru]

Just finished downloading my DDE, ITS GONNA BE AMAZING

[Kanmuru]

Halo Quea wrote...

whoISthatgirl wrote...

I've downgraded from CE to standard edition, but yeah i'm still buying it because the rest of the game looks outstanding and i'm invested in the trilogy. This doesn't change the fact that the choice of endings suck; If this was any other game i wouldn't be buying it first hand.

Interesting that you should say that, because the people who have already played it say that Mass Effect 3 has absolutely NO REPLAY VALUE.   That it's a one-time gamer experience that none of them intend to play-through again because OF the endings.

STOP LYING, everyone who played this game said there were on multiple playtroughs already (Xoisite and Tank guy)

Wth do you gain by spreading lies about this game like that? 

[Elite Midget]

Random Jerkface wrote...

99,9% of the game is going to be amazing, so yes.

...And SMH at the senselessness of the rest.

Please don't take this the wrong way but I find it hard to believe a newly made account that has not a single Bioware game registerd in their name.

[eye basher]

Yes i don't play games for the story is the gameplay i like story that's just icing heck some of the best games i've played in my life had no story not even an ending they just told you congratulations at the end.

[incinerator950]

Vocal group is always the minority in gaming. There are a few exceptional cases but most people either don't want to discuss, don't care, or move on.

I paid off my CE back in September/October, so I'm keeping it.

[Ahms]

Let me put it this way. If you told me how The Matrix ends, I'd still watch that abomination of a trilogy finisher, The Matrix: Revolutions.

[thornboosh]

Still buying, still playing, still enjoying! Played through 1 & 2 several times, always got the same ending!

If you killed the council, or saved them in 1, you got the same ending, Shepherd leaving to search the galaxy for the Geth/Reapers etc.

In 2 you get the same ending regardless of whether you destroyed the Collector base or not, you still p**s off the Illusive Man.

The choices we've made through the story so far have never changed the ultimate outcome at the ends of the games, they've only changed sections of the story and how they play out. Just be happy that Bioware has given you multiple endings to achieve in ME3 rather than just giving you 1!

Defeating the most powerful in the entire galaxy was never going to be easy

[Elite Midget]

incinerator950 wrote...

Vocal group is always the minority in gaming. There are a few exceptional cases but most people either don't want to discuss, don't care, or move on.

I paid off my CE back in September/October, so I'm keeping it.

So tell me, how'd DAII end up again? Oh right.