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Awful lot of auto dialogue in the full game...


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Phaedon

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PoliteAssasin wrote...
If there was any inflammatory discussion in my thread It certainly wasn't because of me or people who agreed with me, that's the trademark of the BDF to attack and insult people. But nice try though. ^_^


-Polite

Tsk, tsk. The moral catharsis that you seem to apply only to people who agree with you, certainly doesn't seem to wash down the terms "turd" from our memory.

The dichotomy of course, extends to you calling "biodrones" though who disagreed with you (and apparently were correct), but I'll let mods do the judging. Though it may be a bit too late for that.

Modifié par Phaedon, 02 mars 2012 - 09:38 .


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Duncan. I think you're a whee bit paranoid. For starters, if a forum mod is trying to silence you, they'd delete your posts and not just lock them.

Every hugely negative thread goes the same way, which is why they get locked. You all whine. The fans come back and they whine just as hard. The reasonable people also complain about you all as well. It devolves into trolling and then gets locked.

Seriously. Desperate to not let the truth get out of their hands? Why do you still have an account if that's the case?

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Duncaaaaaan wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

Yeah man, isn't it obvious, this is ACTION mode, where the conversation choices are pre-selected.


No.

Action mode = absolutely no choices anywhere, ever. None at all.

The gamespot video was the "RPG" mode, as there were one or two choices here and there.

You probably don't believe me, but whatever.


Action mode restricts conversations and tunes the difficulty higher.

You still make gameplay choices.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...
Action mode restricts conversations and tunes the difficulty higher.

You still make gameplay choices.

Some Story choices also. There's a menu option for the degree of freedom you require.

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To be honest I don't even want some of you to join the reasonable discussion on this subject in another thread that currently exists. Because a lot of you are resorting to bickering between each other because cannot appear to accept another persons preference or view point. In the other thread it is polite and reasonable so please don't join it if continue with this level..

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 02 mars 2012 - 09:41 .


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Ajwol Semreth

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I'm probably going to be labelled a Biodrone or member of the BDF for this, but I did not see anything wrong in the Gamespot footage. Shocking, I know.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

Yeah man, isn't it obvious, this is ACTION mode, where the conversation choices are pre-selected.


No.

Action mode = absolutely no choices anywhere, ever. None at all.

The gamespot video was the "RPG" mode, as there were one or two choices here and there.

You probably don't believe me, but whatever.


Action mode restricts conversations and tunes the difficulty higher.

You still make gameplay choices.


No it doesn't make the difficulty higher, you change the difficulty in the gameplay menu.

Yeah I was unclear on the "no choices at all" part of my post, I meant no dialogue choices.

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AgitatedLemon wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

Yeah man, isn't it obvious, this is ACTION mode, where the conversation choices are pre-selected.


No.

Action mode = absolutely no choices anywhere, ever. None at all.

The gamespot video was the "RPG" mode, as there were one or two choices here and there.

You probably don't believe me, but whatever.




Action mode restricts conversations and tunes the difficulty higher.

You still make gameplay choices.


The guy playing opens the menu up at one point to show that he's playing with "Full choices" on. 

Modifié par movieguyabw, 02 mars 2012 - 09:42 .


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Can anyone actually define "auto-dialogue" for me? Are you telling that I totally have no more control over what Shepard says or more that I choose a dialogue choices and Shepard talks a LOT longer etc?

Please clarify...

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Duncaaaaaan

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Ajwol Semreth wrote...

I'm probably going to be labelled a Biodrone or member of the BDF for this, but I did not see anything wrong in the Gamespot footage. Shocking, I know.


Nah it's cool. If you enjoy the game then that's good for you.

"but I did not see anything wrong in the Gamespot footage" is completely subjective, for the record I do disagree, I did see some things wrong, but to each his/her own.

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Yep, it seems a lot of the dialogue is auto unfortunately. I just hope the auto dialogue changes if you're paragon or renegade, though I doubt it.

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Ajwol Semreth wrote...

I'm probably going to be labelled a Biodrone or member of the BDF for this, but I did not see anything wrong in the Gamespot footage. Shocking, I know.


Same here.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

To be honest I don't even want some of you to join the reasonable discussion on this subject in another thread that currently exists. Because a lot of you are resorting to bickering between each other because cannot appear to accept another persons preference of view point. In the other thread it is polite and reasonable so please don't join it if continue with this level..

I don't think that the debates until now have anything to do with personal taste and about whether or not it would have been better if ME3 had less choices than the previous games.

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Savber100 wrote...

Can anyone actually define "auto-dialogue" for me? Are you telling that I totally have no more control over what Shepard says or more that I choose a dialogue choices and Shepard talks a LOT longer etc?

Please clarify...


Yeah that's exactly it.

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Ajwol Semreth wrote...

I'm probably going to be labelled a Biodrone or member of the BDF for this, but I did not see anything wrong in the Gamespot footage. Shocking, I know.

HEATHEN!

Joke, joke, I don't care. :P

What I hate to see here is that Polite has a good point and a valid source but cannot restrain himself from posting petty insults at all that disagree with him. I agree with some of his points, and I accept the auto-dialogue, but it's hard to stand up for someone like this.

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Savber100 wrote...

Can anyone actually define "auto-dialogue" for me? Are you telling that I totally have no more control over what Shepard says or more that I choose a dialogue choices and Shepard talks a LOT longer etc?

Please clarify...


Auto-dialogue is when Shepard speaks without input from the player.

He's done it since ME1.

Modifié par Hunter of Legends, 02 mars 2012 - 09:42 .


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I did start a debate about that a while back, though!

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Duncaaaaaan wrote...

joe1852 wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

Yeah man, isn't it obvious, this is ACTION mode, where the conversation choices are pre-selected.


No.

Action mode = absolutely no choices anywhere, ever. None at all.

The gamespot video was the "RPG" mode, as there were one or two choices here and there.

You probably don't believe me, but whatever.


actually casey hudson said even in the action mode you will still have to choose major decisions.


In those exact words?

Because that doesn't sound like choosing dialogue to me.

A "major desicion" is probably something like choosing to do a side mission or not, choosing to pursue a romance, that kind of thing.

Don't say i didn't warn you. You may be unpleasantly surprised.


Well there will be major decisions to make in mass effect for example leaving behind someone to die or choosing to save them i believe those are the decisions casey is refering to and i doubt i will be unpleasently surprised i dont over react like most here.

Modifié par joe1852, 02 mars 2012 - 09:44 .


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Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

Can anyone actually define "auto-dialogue" for me? Are you telling that I totally have no more control over what Shepard says or more that I choose a dialogue choices and Shepard talks a LOT longer etc?

Please clarify...


Yeah that's exactly it.


...which one... the  latter?

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Laugh it up, Garrus.

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Phaedon wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...
If there was any inflammatory discussion in my thread It certainly wasn't because of me or people who agreed with me, that's the trademark of the BDF to attack and insult people. But nice try though. ^_^


-Polite

Tsk, tsk. The moral catharsis that you seem to apply only to people who agree with you, certainly doesn't seem to wash down the terms "turd" from our memory.

The dichotomy of course, extends to you calling "biodrones" though who disagreed with you (and apparently were correct), but I'll let mods do the judging. Though it may be a bit too late for that.


Hm.. Not quite. Biodrones and BDF has been around for some time now, but I personally define it as people who blindly defend something that is factually incorrect. Sort of like what you guys did in my thread, or any topic that raises plausible concerns about the game. In your point of view Bioware can do no wrong. What you guys don't seem to understand is that critique helps to improve a piece of work. I'm not calling people who disagree with me Biodrones. There were several people in the thread who recognized the auto dialogue but expressed that they weren't bothered by it. That is their opinion and their right. It just so happens that the Biodrones disagree with factual information, not my opinion, regarding the game. Call it what you want though. I can't change your mind, and you definitely can't change mine. 


-Polite

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EJ107 wrote...

I knew that adding action mode would lower the number of dialogue options in RPG and Story mode.
And people said that multiplayer/Action mode would have no negative impact on the single-player game. Hah! Yeah right<_<


Yep:bandit:

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Hunter of Legends wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

Can anyone actually define "auto-dialogue" for me? Are you telling that I totally have no more control over what Shepard says or more that I choose a dialogue choices and Shepard talks a LOT longer etc?

Please clarify...


Auto-dialogue is when Shepard speaks without input from the player.

He's done it since ME1.


It happened once in ME1 when you were landing on Illos. That was it.


-Polite

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Savber100 wrote...

Can anyone actually define "auto-dialogue" for me? Are you telling that I totally have no more control over what Shepard says or more that I choose a dialogue choices and Shepard talks a LOT longer etc?

Please clarify...

Not quite sure myself, anymore. The term, like many others has been bastardized so much that it lost its original meaning.

It was initially meant to refer to Shepard's banter in LotSB.