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Hillbillyhat wrote...

N00blet666 wrote...

Damn this thread really took off. I asked somebody who has played through the game and they said there is not a lot of auto dialogue. I don't know how reliable this is but, I'm going with this. I'll see what happens on tuesday.

Well another poster is claiming that he or she has been hearing the opposite. This is why I don't get why people are so quick to believe this before the game is coming out. Play it then complain afterwards.


My problem is,  I'd rather not waste $80,  which is what an auto-dialogued ME3 would be.  I'll be very upset if I end up finding out ME3 is auto-dialogued,  and I doubt I'd be alone.  In fact,  I'd be willing to bet that following so closely on the heels of the DA2 debacle and the TOR reception,  that Bioware would likely be branded as a studio people shouldn't buy games from.

This would just not be a very good decision for them at all.

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dangermouseuk78 wrote...

Jacen987 wrote...

dangermouseuk78 wrote...

Maybe places like the Citadel will be dialogue heavy i dunno but when you under attack from a massive force i assume you wouldnt wanna hang around to chat about the weather. I think in some places it could add a sense of urgency to what you are doing, and not spending a huge amount of time spent on picking various versions of a conversation, your under attack you have to save the earth and the galaxy get to it.


Actually form they reviews, its pretty much confirmed, there are doens upon dozens of quests, that have nothing to do with the reapers and are just people bothering you with their own problems.....

Get this, The reviewer actually critisyzed it...  To much depth and replayabilty is apperantlly bad.... thhhhzzzz...

Well, there are definately explanding on the RPG, even if not quite enough. The Citadel is bigger, theres plenty of Bonus content.,,, so yeah id say its definately going to be better than ME2


The old saying you cant please all the people all the time springs to mind, Basicly my point was that Gamespot section it  proberly wasnt the best section to judge the game on Dialogue choices as the situation was more imediate and siting there for 3 or four minutes going thru loads of choices would of taken that away.


It basically means, theres going to be alot more dialog, but alot less interupts and dialog option. Dont know, how i feel about that. Guess, ill decide after a nap.-_-

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Homey C-Dawg wrote...

I only consider people as having "their hands over their eyes" when they are not seeing what is plainly obvious. All signs have pointed to increased auto dialog for a long time to those who chose to read between the lines. I don't see pointing that out to be disrespectful.

I call it as I see it, and everyone else is free to do the same.

Edit: btw for a guy who advocates that "everyone is free to their opinion" you sure seem to like "fixing" peoples statements to be more in line with your opinion. It's a two way street you know. <_<


I don't edit folks posts to reflect my opinion, I edit them to reflect the reality that they can't speak for everyone. That's not an opinion, that's fact. It can't hurt one to learn that, right?

If someone who plays the game in a couple days disagree's with your opinion, they're not going to appreciate you telling them that they have their hands over their eyes. There's really not any reason why you have to characterize people who disagree with you - in any way. This would be the nice, respectful thing to do, no?

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iRAWRasaurusREX wrote...

Have the devs said anything about this?


Bioware prefers the "Head down and don't look it in the eye," approach. They may privately acknowledge what people are saying, but with the exception of the Deception fiasco, they never publicly discuss anything related to fan backlash.

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As I say, the auto-dialogue instances are most likely a situational thing that occurs more often during action-packed sequences where the game can't naturally just stop and offer a menu for you without breaking flow irrationally. Not that I don't expect some additional auto-dialogue in places where it has no right to be, but I do believe we're making a mountain out of... not necessarily a molehill, but a slightly annoying slope formation that shouldn't enrage so much as irritate.

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Jacen987 wrote...

Yeah, but not everyone thinks the same way, or categorizes things in the same fashion. Thus whats startlingly plain, in your eyes, can completely elude others.... because, for them, it doesnt share the same significance.

All "plainly obvious" is, is an opinion..


Opinion is based around how you feel about something. I (and many others) came to this conclution by looking at available data and discarding my own preconceptions or personal desires.

Perhaps it wasn't as plainly obvious to others as it was to me, but it's not opinion, more like an educated guess.

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Jacen987 wrote...

OOoooook you're free to express that and i agree with you..., but you still shouldnt be sensoring other people thoughs/opinions/messages/whatever, unless your a hipocryte.

Let them be, and just state your own opinion.:innocent:


Nobody's thoughts were censored. Their posts remain for all to see in their original glory. I just pointed out, in an interesting way, that they can't speak for everyone - and that's not my opinion, that's fact. Otherwise, they're, for example, speaking for me, and I may not necessarily agree with them when they lump me into their opinion by stating "everyone". 

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Although I am a very annoyed by this change, it won't be a deal breaker for me.

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Where are the investigate tabs? They do still exist right?
Frankly I can't imagine playing an ME game without them.

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Comsky159 wrote...

Where are the investigate tabs? They do still exist right?
Frankly I can't imagine playing an ME game without them.


That's what we're worried about. Amung other things.

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Comsky159 wrote...

Where are the investigate tabs? They do still exist right?
Frankly I can't imagine playing an ME game without them.


i honestly think that we gonna find out until we get the game, if anyone hasnt changed their mind about getting it still after noticing alot of stuff. :mellow:

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Investigate Tabs.

Without them, you are fifty steps closer to a Gears of War clone with a sci-fi backdrop.

If this turns out to be as bad as we are fearing, Bioware may, and should be branded as a company that one shouldn't trust with their money, especially in light of the DA2 and TOR debacles.

Do not do business with a company (I'm not saying Bioware is or isn't, so don't edit my post and ban me) that harbors a total disregard for its fanbase.

Modifié par Ghost-621, 03 mars 2012 - 05:11 .


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It's simple. We wait for the game to release.

I will be more than happy to tell you the percentage of investiage options, times there are more than 2 dialog choices, and dialog options over the percentage of no investiage options, 2 choices, and auto dialog.

After I beat the game of course. So you will have to wait.

Modifié par John Never Dies, 03 mars 2012 - 05:16 .


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Almostfaceman wrote...

It's interesting how this has been titled about one thing - a lot of auto dialogue in the Gamespot stream - and it's changed to people who seem to be able to see into the future and suddenly know how ME3 will turn out. As for people who have actually played the game, I've heard opposing opinions on this matter, so it's definitely not as cut-and-dried as some would like to paint it.

For you oracles out there, could you please give me next week's lotto numbers?

I'm waiting to play the game to decide how much I like it, what a concept. :mellow:


This needs to be repeated.

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Ghost-621 wrote...

Investigate Tabs.

Without them, you are fifty steps closer to a Gears of War clone with a sci-fi backdrop.

If this turns out to be as bad as we are fearing, Bioware may, and should be branded as a company that one shouldn't trust with their money, especially in light of the DA2 and TOR debacles.

Do not do business with a company (I'm not saying Bioware is or isn't, so don't edit my post and ban me) that harbors a total disregard for its fanbase.


as ive stated in previous post in other threads, this is most likely and for sure the last game im gonna get from Bioware. wether ME 3 is good for me or not im not taking any chances anymore, they have turned out to be very unpredictable in a negative way for me :unsure::?:sick:

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Ghost-621 wrote...

Investigate Tabs.

Without them, you are fifty steps closer to a Gears of War clone with a sci-fi backdrop.

If this turns out to be as bad as we are fearing, Bioware may, and should be branded as a company that one shouldn't trust with their money, especially in light of the DA2 and TOR debacles.

Do not do business with a company (I'm not saying Bioware is or isn't, so don't edit my post and ban me) that harbors a total disregard for its fanbase.


Borderline inflamatory, just saying.

But I will agree that without our exposition dialogue, we have nothing.

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Ghost-621 wrote...

Investigate Tabs.

Without them, you are fifty steps closer to a Gears of War clone with a sci-fi backdrop.

If this turns out to be as bad as we are fearing, Bioware may, and should be branded as a company that one shouldn't trust with their money, especially in light of the DA2 and TOR debacles.

Do not do business with a company (I'm not saying Bioware is or isn't, so don't edit my post and ban me) that harbors a total disregard for its fanbase.


You guys are so melodramatic it's almost humorous. How do you type this kind of stuff with a straight face?

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Squallypo wrote...

as ive stated in previous post in other threads, this is most likely and for sure the last game im gonna get from Bioware. wether ME 3 is good for me or not im not taking any chances anymore, they have turned out to be very unpredictable in a negative way for me :unsure::?:sick:


Until the next annoucement trailer of course like the rest of you.

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BentOrgy wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Investigate Tabs.

Without them, you are fifty steps closer to a Gears of War clone with a sci-fi backdrop.

If this turns out to be as bad as we are fearing, Bioware may, and should be branded as a company that one shouldn't trust with their money, especially in light of the DA2 and TOR debacles.

Do not do business with a company (I'm not saying Bioware is or isn't, so don't edit my post and ban me) that harbors a total disregard for its fanbase.


Borderline inflamatory, just saying.

But I will agree that without our exposition dialogue, we have nothing.


You're darn right. You're probably right about my last post being borderline-inflammatory as well, but truth often comes off as abrasive when we don't want to hear or believe it.

And to shut up those who say I'm just here to complain, I HOPE I'M WRONG! I REALLY DO! I HOPE MASS EFFECT 3 IS THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD! I WANT THS GAME TO BE THE BEST IN THE SERIES!

IF IT LIVES UP TO ITS POTENTIAL, WITH THE ELEMENTS THAT MADE MASS EFFECT THE SPACE OPERA IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE INTACT, I WILL EAT MY WORDS.
 and some paper. Why not? Extra fiber.

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John Never Dies wrote...

Squallypo wrote...

as ive stated in previous post in other threads, this is most likely and for sure the last game im gonna get from Bioware. wether ME 3 is good for me or not im not taking any chances anymore, they have turned out to be very unpredictable in a negative way for me :unsure::?:sick:


Until the next annoucement trailer of course like the rest of you.


meaning? :bandit:

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Ghost-621 wrote...
WITH THE ELEMENTS THAT MADE MASS EFFECT THE SPACE OPERA IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE


Finally, someone else mentions this.

There's are staggering differences between a story in space, and a Space Opera, something that Mass Effect actually embraced, and the second missed completely. Hopefully ME3 won't be as blind.

Modifié par BentOrgy, 03 mars 2012 - 05:24 .


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BentOrgy wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...
WITH THE ELEMENTS THAT MADE MASS EFFECT THE SPACE OPERA IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE


Finally, someone else mentions this.

There's are staggering differences between a story in space, and a Space Opera, something that Mass Effect actually embraced, and the second missed completely. Hopefully ME3 won't be as blind.



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Gatt9 wrote...

My problem is,  I'd rather not waste $80,  which is what an auto-dialogued ME3 would be.  I'll be very upset if I end up finding out ME3 is auto-dialogued,  and I doubt I'd be alone.  In fact,  I'd be willing to bet that following so closely on the heels of the DA2 debacle and the TOR reception,  that Bioware would likely be branded as a studio people shouldn't buy games from.

This would just not be a very good decision for them at all.


Pretty much this.

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Il Divo wrote...


Pretty much this.


ditto.

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Il Divo wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

My problem is,  I'd rather not waste $80,  which is what an auto-dialogued ME3 would be.  I'll be very upset if I end up finding out ME3 is auto-dialogued,  and I doubt I'd be alone.  In fact,  I'd be willing to bet that following so closely on the heels of the DA2 debacle and the TOR reception,  that Bioware would likely be branded as a studio people shouldn't buy games from.

This would just not be a very good decision for them at all.


Pretty much this.


If it is an auto-dialogued piece of crap (which is what Mass Effect with non-toggle-able auto-dialogue would be), it should be more than enough evidence that touching anything with the Bioware brand would be a poor business decision and a terrible investment of hard-earned money.

Not saying Bioware is, I haven't played through the entire game, or at all other than the demo. However, if it is, I will be relentless.

Again, I hope that I am 100% mistaken. I hope that Mass Effect 3 is the Mass Effect we have known and love, and more.

Modifié par Ghost-621, 03 mars 2012 - 06:09 .