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I've yet to read anything from a rep saying that. Do you have a link? Otherwise I'm inclined to think that people were hearing what they wanted to hear.

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Bachi1230 wrote...

So did they just completely remove the investigate option?


There were Investigate options on the Salarian Homeworld in the leaked beta, so yes.

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Revan312 wrote...

android654 wrote...

What did they lie about DA2?


That it was a game.. :lol:


They didn't lie, so much as we had high hopes for a proper sequal and it fell short of those hopes by a lot.

And for some people it's deja vu for ME3.  I don't know until I've played the game.

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android654 wrote...

I've yet to read anything from a rep saying that. Do you have a link? Otherwise I'm inclined to think that people were hearing what they wanted to hear.

Hold on, I'll look for it. It was a week or two ago though.

Modifié par BlahDog, 04 mars 2012 - 03:08 .


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Ok.

As for Sir'kesh, I saw live footage last night and investigate was there for one conversation. After that it's down to two with one occasion of neutral. After that there were no opportunities. For investigating

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Eh, I can kinda see why there's auto dialogue. From the Mars IGN video, it sounded like Shepard is really tired and annoyed. I can't blame him.

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Wulfram wrote...

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Has anyone even seen a dialogue wheel with a neutral option yet? Mac himself said that the majority of dialogue options would have three responses. What a friggin lie.


Do you have a link to where he claimed that?


No, and i can't find it. I just remember a fan asking him about the dialogue and his answer.

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How to ruin two of the best IP's in gaming, EA Style.

Dragon age 2 : Auto-Combat

Mass effect 3 : Auto-Dialogue.

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This makes me think of the reviews for DA2. They got 9's and 9.5's so easily, yet the majority hated it and it descended into mediocrity. I wont say the exact same thing will happen here, but fan reaction will be not as welcoming as it was for ME2.

For those of you who were watching in the UK last night, they're back online now.

Modifié par android654, 04 mars 2012 - 03:21 .


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You know, as I'm going through this thread, I'm remembering reading last night on another thread here that there's supposed to be a huge Day 1 patch. It's probably just wishful thinking, and me trying to give myself some hope for this game; but what if all of the dialogue options are actually in the game, and are just locked out until the Day 1 patch, for spoiler purposes.

It's not impossible; being familiar with modding Bioware games, the dialogue files may just be set to play one of the three different reactions automatically, and the patch just removes the flag that makes this happen. I remember there was a lot of issue with spoilers during ME2's release, and this could be how Bioware chose to deal with it.

But yeah, not saying this is what happened, just saying this is a possibility. My expectations for this game are actually so low right now. :\\

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Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Has anyone even seen a dialogue wheel with a neutral option yet? Mac himself said that the majority of dialogue options would have three responses. What a friggin lie.


Do you have a link to where he claimed that?


No, and i can't find it. I just remember a fan asking him about the dialogue and his answer.


I can confirm he did say It.  Someone, will pull it out, and believe me, there will be blood on here when the majority get to see that quote and the reality.

As for DA2, I think the lie with that relates to the demo.  Many were apalled, and the devs reassured them that it was in no way indicative of the full game.  Anyone seeing a trend here?

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I read somewhere that for some dialog choices, you could speak them into the Kinect to choose that option.

If Kinect is responsible for the dumming down of the Dialogue in Mass Effect 3, I will be livid.

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I pmed Priestly about this yesterday but, have not received a response. If any of you guys know any of the devs or any other mods user names can you please post them. I will be sending messages to all of them.

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Goddy10 wrote...

If Kinect is responsible for the dumming down of the Dialogue in Mass Effect 3, I will be livid.


There's a few reasons ME3 is dumbed down..

EA
Time constraints (i.e. rushed)
EA
Wanting the "Call of Duty" crowd
EA
Multiplayer inclusion (don't care if it was a seperate team, the resources could have been used in SP)
aanndd.. EA

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N00blet666 wrote...

I pmed Priestly about this yesterday but, have not received a response. If any of you guys know any of the devs or any other mods user names can you please post them. I will be sending messages to all of them.

Scroll to the bottom of the page. You can try those guys.

Modifié par BlahDog, 04 mars 2012 - 03:28 .


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Rickin10 wrote...

As for DA2, I think the lie with that relates to the demo.  Many were apalled, and the devs reassured them that it was in no way indicative of the full game.  Anyone seeing a trend here?


Still, with ME3 there was more of a basis for it. Between an SP demo over an hour long and the pre-release multiplayer, Bioware was already reaching the memory capacity for Xbox Live demos, so there I could understand the inclusion of extra autodialogue.

Of course, DA2 also had that whole autoattack fiasco, which was promised to be in the final release. I remember alot of fans wanted blood after that episode.

Modifié par Il Divo, 04 mars 2012 - 03:29 .


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N00blet666 wrote...

I pmed Priestly about this yesterday but, have not received a response. If any of you guys know any of the devs or any other mods user names can you please post them. I will be sending messages to all of them.


This close to release, with money at stake?  If you get a response I would be staggered.

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Ofcourse you wont get a response, there most likeley bound to not acknowledge you, same with the import thread. Notice how they can lock down, and or reply to moot threads almost instantly. but cannot reply to a 5 day and a 2 day thread respectiveley with nearly 100k views combigned? Its a sad reflection on the way bioware is heading.

After all, as they keep saying "the customer keeps us, in business. we listen to there feedback all the time" yeh maybe 10 years ago in the baldurs gate era.

Modifié par MartinDN, 04 mars 2012 - 03:33 .


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It's a 40 hour game, until someone here has went through all 40 hours, I will simply be the judge myself when I get the game.

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movieguyabw wrote...

You know, as I'm going through this thread, I'm remembering reading last night on another thread here that there's supposed to be a huge Day 1 patch. It's probably just wishful thinking, and me trying to give myself some hope for this game; but what if all of the dialogue options are actually in the game, and are just locked out until the Day 1 patch, for spoiler purposes.

It's not impossible; being familiar with modding Bioware games, the dialogue files may just be set to play one of the three different reactions automatically, and the patch just removes the flag that makes this happen. I remember there was a lot of issue with spoilers during ME2's release, and this could be how Bioware chose to deal with it.

But yeah, not saying this is what happened, just saying this is a possibility. My expectations for this game are actually so low right now. :


On that hopefull note I am leaving this forums till I have finally played it (the 8th or 9th as I am European) even if this is false hope I don't wanna know yet :crying:

See you all on the flip side

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MartinDN wrote...

Ofcourse you wont get a response, there most likeley bound to not acknowledge you, same with the import thread. Notice how they can lock down, and or reply to moot threads almost instantly. but cannot reply to a 5 day and a 2 day thread respectiveley with nearly 100k views combigned? Its a sad reflection on the way bioware is heading.

After all, as they keep saying "the customer keeps us, in business. we listen to there feedback all the time" yeh maybe 10 years ago in the baldurs gate era.


The unfortunate thing is they do listen to feedback, it's just that now it's feedback from the mass market i.e.  direct quote from Casy Hudson:  
 'A lot of players on feedback found the dialogue options 'intimidating and a burden and want the game to make the  choices for them'   

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Watching the end of a mission and there has been no dialogue prompts and Shepard has been having a pretty lengthy back and forth with a new character and a squaddie. I'm also annoyed by the forced friendship. There are characters that aren't liked by some and it would be nice if we had the option to not have to drag them along.

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android654 wrote...

Watching the end of a mission and there has been no dialogue prompts and Shepard has been having a pretty lengthy back and forth with a new character and a squaddie. I'm also annoyed by the forced friendship. There are characters that aren't liked by some and it would be nice if we had the option to not have to drag them along.

Wow, this is ridiculous since they have stated that friendship is optional. It seems that we were lied to.

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Rickin10 wrote...

MartinDN wrote...

Ofcourse you wont get a response, there most likeley bound to not acknowledge you, same with the import thread. Notice how they can lock down, and or reply to moot threads almost instantly. but cannot reply to a 5 day and a 2 day thread respectiveley with nearly 100k views combigned? Its a sad reflection on the way bioware is heading.

After all, as they keep saying "the customer keeps us, in business. we listen to there feedback all the time" yeh maybe 10 years ago in the baldurs gate era.


The unfortunate thing is they do listen to feedback, it's just that now it's feedback from the mass market i.e.  direct quote from Casy Hudson:  
 'A lot of players on feedback found the dialogue options 'intimidating and a burden and want the game to make the  choices for them'   



Jesus.  I suspect these people can't dress themselves in the morning either. 

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BillsVengenace wrote...

Rickin10 wrote...

MartinDN wrote...

Ofcourse you wont get a response, there most likeley bound to not acknowledge you, same with the import thread. Notice how they can lock down, and or reply to moot threads almost instantly. but cannot reply to a 5 day and a 2 day thread respectiveley with nearly 100k views combigned? Its a sad reflection on the way bioware is heading.

After all, as they keep saying "the customer keeps us, in business. we listen to there feedback all the time" yeh maybe 10 years ago in the baldurs gate era.


The unfortunate thing is they do listen to feedback, it's just that now it's feedback from the mass market i.e.  direct quote from Casy Hudson:  
 'A lot of players on feedback found the dialogue options 'intimidating and a burden and want the game to make the  choices for them'   



Jesus.  I suspect these people can't dress themselves in the morning either. 


LOL