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[BillsVengenace]

Revan312 wrote...

Chrumpek wrote...

Ok guys any ideas for a new IP to go-to now for RPG with a good gameplay?

Though it's a set story for the most part (no dialogue choices, though your actions change outcomes) I'd wait for Bioshock Infinite.. Irrational still seems to try and appease their core audience rather than chasing the COD dragon, a dragon that they'll never catch, like Bioware does now..

Bioshock Infinite is not an RPG. 

[SynheKatze]

The point is, if those dialogue options are there and are selected depending on your allignment, why the **** can't we select them ourselves? You want to implement Kinect crap? I get it, but give me control over what I do.

[N00blet666]

android654 wrote...

Chrumpek wrote...

Ok guys any ideas for a new IP to go-to now for RPG with a good gameplay?

The Witcher 2. It's being released for the 360 next month. Other than that, I'm sticking to Bethesda for the time being. New Veags, D.C. and Skyrim are big enough to satisfy the exploration niche. As for narrative games, The Witcher 2 is the only one I'm considering at the moment.

I second this. Witcher is great.

[AkiKishi]

android654 wrote...

That is one of the major flaws of DA2, and seems to be what happened here. While they thought Uncharted was what they wanted, they forgot that that game has most of it's story woven into the gameplay and the transition between cutscenes, gameplay and qte are blended perfectly so you can't tell where one ends and the other begins. I've seen hours of ME3, If Uncharted in Space with a few dialogue options was what they wanted, I can tell you they failed at this in a very big way.

FFXIII-2 took me by suprise like that too. You dare not put down the controller because the cutscenes are interactive. Not in the same way as they are done in Uncharted (awsome game btw any PS3 owner should have it) but it keeps you engaged in a way that ME3 does not.

[Chrumpek]

android654 wrote...

Chrumpek wrote...

Ok guys any ideas for a new IP to go-to now for RPG with a good gameplay?

The Witcher 2. It's being released for the 360 next month. Other than that, I'm sticking to Bethesda for the time being. New Veags, D.C. and Skyrim are big enough to satisfy the exploration niche. As for narrative games, The Witcher 2 is the only one I'm considering at the moment.

Played both games on PC, loved it, still it's the story about Geralt from Rivia and not unknown hero you shape up. Both great games tho.

[android654]

Turran wrote...

I don't really see an issue with it, I am sure we will get a lot of dialogue anyway, with our imput on where it goes.
Minor conversations where Shepard talks to crew as they pass by I don't see that much of a problem with.

People should really read previous pages. There were pivotal parts of the story, revealing new characters, developments in the war, and reuniting with old members with almost no input from the player.

[Subject One]

mariatea wrote...

Subject One wrote...

OK, let me try to explain. Suppose you see a 5 minute conversation with 2-4 times wheel choices on ME2. As ME3 has doubled the dialogues time that same conversation will last 10 minutes, but you will have more or less the same amount of choices per conversation (2-4).

Or let me explin this way:

ME2 lines of dialogue: 25.000
ME3 lines of dialogue: 40.000
Number of decissions: more or less the same on each game.

So for each decission you obtain more amount of dialogue than before.

Okay, now I see what you mean but still I dare to disagree

For the start you seem to assume that both of these 2-4 appereances have the same amount of choices on the wheel - and that is wrong. ME3 features only 2 opptions plus possible 1 investigation question. I think I saw wheel having 4 options (with charm and intimidate) only one or twice. So your claim with comparing 2-4 convos per 5 minutes and 10 minutes is invalid in this cases.

Moreover I did not notice much longer lines after choosing the dialogue, convos also didn't seem to be longer. Additionaly autodialogue seemed to often kick in between decisions.

... Plus with that much more dialogue I think most of us would care to preserve amount of control we had over characters and not just 'the same amount of choices'

OK. I only was trying to explain why auto-dialogue is more prominent now than before. Maybe even it would be better to have less conversation if there isn't more dialogue options, I don't know. I will judge the results when I play the game.

One thing that I don't know for sure if autodialogue changes depending of our reputation level. Some people say that it is possible.

[N00blet666]

Also I don't know if you guys have seen Dragon' Dogma but, it looks like it might be interesting.

[KnifeForkAndSpoon]

N00blet666 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Chrumpek wrote...

Ok guys any ideas for a new IP to go-to now for RPG with a good gameplay?

The Witcher 2. It's being released for the 360 next month. Other than that, I'm sticking to Bethesda for the time being. New Veags, D.C. and Skyrim are big enough to satisfy the exploration niche. As for narrative games, The Witcher 2 is the only one I'm considering at the moment.

I second this. Witcher is great.

Thirded, it was my game of 2011. You simply have to play it.

Modifié par KnifeForkAndSpoon, 04 mars 2012 - 05:01 .

[MisterJB]

So this is how Mass Effect dies. With thunderous applause.

[Arppis]

KnifeForkAndSpoon wrote...

N00blet666 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Chrumpek wrote...

Ok guys any ideas for a new IP to go-to now for RPG with a good gameplay?

The Witcher 2. It's being released for the 360 next month. Other than that, I'm sticking to Bethesda for the time being. New Veags, D.C. and Skyrim are big enough to satisfy the exploration niche. As for narrative games, The Witcher 2 is the only one I'm considering at the moment.

I second this. Witcher is great.

Thirded, it was my game of 2011. You simply have to play it.

Whoa, you can import your face to this forum in ME3?!

Oh and can you customize N7 Defender armor?!

[Subject One]

MisterJB wrote...

So this is how Mass Effect dies. With thunderous applause.

I don't see the applause anywhere. At least on BSN forums

[Revan312]

KnifeForkAndSpoon wrote...

Revan312 wrote...

Though it's a set story for the most part (no dialogue choices, though your actions change outcomes) I'd wait for Bioshock Infinite.. Irrational still seems to try and appease their core audience rather than chasing the COD dragon, a dragon that they'll never catch, like Bioware does now..

I heard that had a 2 weapon limit

I believe it does, which I like.. Nothin like carrying 80 pounds of weapons around to break immersion imo..

But the setting is about 5 times more creative than anything Bioware has done, again, imo. The characters seem complex and interesting, the combat is really diverse and expansive. Overall the whole game looks amazing. 

Here's a 15 minute demo of it from last year's E3. 

www.youtube.com/watch

[Dragoonlordz]

android654 wrote...

Chrumpek wrote...

Ok guys any ideas for a new IP to go-to now for RPG with a good gameplay?

The Witcher 2. It's being released for the 360 next month. Other than that, I'm sticking to Bethesda for the time being. New Veags, D.C. and Skyrim are big enough to satisfy the exploration niche. As for narrative games, The Witcher 2 is the only one I'm considering at the moment.

Bethesda and CDPR currently rule the RPG genre for myself. Bethseda for their world they create and ability to immerse yourself in it. CDPR for story and amazing quality of branching and other elements. Bioware are in third or fourth place dependant on if Eidos/Squeenix can keep bringing out titles like DEHR even though it was a FPS/RPG hybrid like Fallout 3 it still counts because Bioware's ME is just 3rd person shooter RPG hybrid and not a full on RPG.

I am also partial to JRPGs, titles like NiNoKuni are highly anticipated by myself.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 04 mars 2012 - 05:09 .

[AkiKishi]

N00blet666 wrote...

Also I don't know if you guys have seen Dragon' Dogma but, it looks like it might be interesting.

I await that one with great anticipation. Love the combat system. The idea of sending your pawn to other worlds for training sounds promising too.

I'll probably try Witcher2 I don't own that many 360 games, it's not connected to the net where as my PS3 is.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 04 mars 2012 - 05:11 .

[Wulfram]

I don't see Bethesda and CDPR as a replacement for what Bioware used to allow. The Witcher has very much a predefined character. Elder Scrolls doesn't really allow your PC to show much character.

My only real hope is that DA3 won't go down this path. DA2 done right would have been a great game for me, even if it had more auto-dialogue that I would have liked.

[Chrumpek]

BobSmith101 wrote...

N00blet666 wrote...

Also I don't know if you guys have seen Dragon' Dogma but, it looks like it might be interesting.

I await that one with great anticipation. Love the combat system. The idea of sending your pawn to other worlds for training sounds promising too.

I'll probably try Witcher2 I don't own that many 360 games, it's not connected to the net where as my PS3 is.

Man go with Witcher 2, you might not be shaping your character since Geralt is already established, but the 'branching' of choices is one of the best in the industry.

Also outstanding engine, first game I saw that had sheaths for swords on your back and freakin objects like whole tents moving with the wind ~^

Modifié par Chrumpek, 04 mars 2012 - 05:19 .

[BillsVengenace]

CDPR has a new game in the making that isn't a Witcher game. Hopefully it's original and we'll be able to have much more control over the character.

[android654]

All streams are down, but over six hours really speaks for itself. If you haven't pre-ordered, wait for reviews, seriously.

Modifié par android654, 04 mars 2012 - 05:21 .

[Takio]

Have to admit, even I'm disappointed by this. It is honestly one of the things that will lower my enjoyment of the game, significantly (in fact probably the only thing about ME 3 so far).

However the whole thing is a little strange, since Bioware said that you'd get plenty of choices and three choices most of the time.

[nitefyre410]

Il Divo wrote...

Chrumpek wrote...

Ok guys any ideas for a new IP to go-to now for RPG with a good gameplay?

I'll second the Bioshock Infinite nomination. The original had one of my favorite stories in gaming. Dark Souls is also pretty incredible if you're looking for a mix of Legend of Zelda, Shadows of the Colossus, Diablo, and God of War. In depth gameplay combined with an intricate narrative. It's tied for my favorite game , along with Portal 2.

 

he is right Dark Souls is incrediable but be warned... that game is unforgivin...  you will die, you will die alot until  get the hang of the combat... which is ... Be prepared.

[Chrumpek]

Wulfram wrote...

I don't see Bethesda and CDPR as a replacement for what Bioware used to allow. The Witcher has very much a predefined character. Elder Scrolls doesn't really allow your PC to show much character.

My only real hope is that DA3 won't go down this path. DA2 done right would have been a great game for me, even if it had more auto-dialogue that I would have liked.

Well Bethes characters lack the 'renegade' and 'paragon' feel but you can still go around and kill//smack/steal whatever you like and shape upwhole world in your image. 

But yea If dragon age 3 could.... erm are we kidding here?

[DatIrishFella]

Still no response? I'm still flabbergasted at the decision to streamline the dialogue wheel. I've said it before and I'll say it again, what will be the point of having multiple characters if they will all pretty much play the same way?

[gastovski]

Subject One wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

So this is how Mass Effect dies. With thunderous applause.

I don't see the applause anywhere. At least on BSN forums

True that after dragon effect.

[Chrumpek]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

Chrumpek wrote...

Ok guys any ideas for a new IP to go-to now for RPG with a good gameplay?

I'll second the Bioshock Infinite nomination. The original had one of my favorite stories in gaming. Dark Souls is also pretty incredible if you're looking for a mix of Legend of Zelda, Shadows of the Colossus, Diablo, and God of War. In depth gameplay combined with an intricate narrative. It's tied for my favorite game , along with Portal 2.

 

he is right Dark Souls is incrediable but be warned... that game is unforgivin...  you will die, you will die alot until  get the hang of the combat... which is ... Be prepared.

I passed Demon Souls on new game++ so yea I know, didn't like the direction they went with dark souls but I'll have to give it a try, gameplay//story wise its brilliant but it's nowhere near good when it comes to character development and that's what I'm kinda looking for.

Still it's awesome to see so many people here with the same taste for games :>

Modifié par Chrumpek, 04 mars 2012 - 05:54 .