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#1801
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Jacen987 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm going to buy it eventually. Just when it's at a price I'll be prepared to be forgiving about things.

Considering how big an issue this is for some, I think people have been pretty restrained. Not much flaming and pretty well contained in this thread.


Whats strange, is that not a single dev/mod has even tried to re-assure us with the " Wait until Tuesday.I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprized"

And boy, can i use it right now.:blush:

I can't wait to see the forums the week after the game releases.

#1802
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Jacen987 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm going to buy it eventually. Just when it's at a price I'll be prepared to be forgiving about things.

Considering how big an issue this is for some, I think people have been pretty restrained. Not much flaming and pretty well contained in this thread.


Whats strange, is that not a single dev/mod has even tried to re-assure us with the " Wait until Tuesday.I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprized"

And boy, can i use it right now.:blush:


I think them keeping quiet is a good idea, if they try to tell us not to worry and it ends up being an issue for a lot of people then they are going to have people jumping all over this comment as how we cant trust them anymore.

Goose1004 wrote...

Jacen987 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm going to buy it eventually. Just when it's at a price I'll be prepared to be forgiving about things.

Considering
how big an issue this is for some, I think people have been pretty
restrained. Not much flaming and pretty well contained in this
thread.


Whats strange, is that not a single dev/mod has
even tried to re-assure us with the " Wait until Tuesday.I'm sure you'll
be pleasantly surprized"

And boy, can i use it right now.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/blushing.png[/smilie]

I can't wait to see the forums the week after the game releases.


I'm thinking something along the lines of DA2

Modifié par Cody211282, 04 mars 2012 - 11:07 .


#1803
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They've been doing the smart thins so far, and that's staying quiet. I'm watching the last bit of footage I'll look at before playing it myself, and it's honestly like 1/3 to 1/4 of the dialogue that's left to the player to decide. The rest is auto.

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Goose1004 wrote...

Jacen987 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm going to buy it eventually. Just when it's at a price I'll be prepared to be forgiving about things.

Considering how big an issue this is for some, I think people have been pretty restrained. Not much flaming and pretty well contained in this thread.


Whats strange, is that not a single dev/mod has even tried to re-assure us with the " Wait until Tuesday.I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprized"

And boy, can i use it right now.:blush:

I can't wait to see the forums the week after the game releases.


*Stares at the 3 beneath your avatar*

Does this mean what I think it does?:o:blink:

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Jacen987 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm going to buy it eventually. Just when it's at a price I'll be prepared to be forgiving about things.

Considering how big an issue this is for some, I think people have been pretty restrained. Not much flaming and pretty well contained in this thread.


Whats strange, is that not a single dev/mod has even tried to re-assure us with the " Wait until Tuesday.I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprized"

And boy, can i use it right now.:blush:


That is actually a nice show of integrity on their part. They don't want to lie to us.

Why did it have to end like this?

#1806
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MisterJB wrote...

Jacen987 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm going to buy it eventually. Just when it's at a price I'll be prepared to be forgiving about things.

Considering how big an issue this is for some, I think people have been pretty restrained. Not much flaming and pretty well contained in this thread.


Whats strange, is that not a single dev/mod has even tried to re-assure us with the " Wait until Tuesday.I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprized"

And boy, can i use it right now.:blush:


That is actually a nice show of integrity on their part. They don't want to lie to us.

Why did it have to end like this?


Or maybe they are busy with....

I dunno, preparing the launch of  one of their biggest releases ever?;)

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Persephone wrote...

Goose1004 wrote...

Jacen987 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm going to buy it eventually. Just when it's at a price I'll be prepared to be forgiving about things.

Considering how big an issue this is for some, I think people have been pretty restrained. Not much flaming and pretty well contained in this thread.


Whats strange, is that not a single dev/mod has even tried to re-assure us with the " Wait until Tuesday.I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprized"

And boy, can i use it right now.:blush:

I can't wait to see the forums the week after the game releases.


*Stares at the 3 beneath your avatar*

Does this mean what I think it does?:o:blink:

Just means I've registered the game (It's already loaded on my PC).  Just waiting now.

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With what people have seen now, I don't really see what they could say. The game is like it is. Maybe a while after release they'll talk to us about the reasoning behind it.

Unless there's some massive bug which has stopped RPG Mode working properly, somehow, and they're scrambling to fix it? No, I can't even sell myself on that theory.

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Wulfram wrote...

With what people have seen now, I don't really see what they could say. The game is like it is. Maybe a while after release they'll talk to us about the reasoning behind it.

Unless there's some massive bug which has stopped RPG Mode working properly, somehow, and they're scrambling to fix it? No, I can't even sell myself on that theory.


One can hope. 

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Persephone wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Jacen987 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm going to buy it eventually. Just when it's at a price I'll be prepared to be forgiving about things.

Considering how big an issue this is for some, I think people have been pretty restrained. Not much flaming and pretty well contained in this thread.


Whats strange, is that not a single dev/mod has even tried to re-assure us with the " Wait until Tuesday.I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprized"

And boy, can i use it right now.:blush:


That is actually a nice show of integrity on their part. They don't want to lie to us.

Why did it have to end like this?


Or maybe they are busy with....

I dunno, preparing the launch of  one of their biggest releases ever?;)


Let's be honest here, if they really had something meaningful to say regarding the issue, they would have done so. They are not too busy, they simply have nothing to say and probably don't really care about a random thread on the forum. Now, if this was actually picked up by news outlets, you might have a different answer.

They want to keep whatever positive hype they might have since the From Ashes debacle.

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Wulfram wrote...

With what people have seen now, I don't really see what they could say. The game is like it is. Maybe a while after release they'll talk to us about the reasoning behind it.

Unless there's some massive bug which has stopped RPG Mode working properly, somehow, and they're scrambling to fix it? No, I can't even sell myself on that theory.


A nice little hope.  I won't expect it though, but it'd be nice if that were to happen.

Also, since the patch probably hasn't gone live for consoles yet (I wouldn't expect it to anyway), that might be an explanation... There haven't been streams of the PC version which included it in the preload yet after all...

Modifié par graciegrace, 04 mars 2012 - 11:16 .


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Alraiis

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MisterJB wrote...

Jacen987 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm going to buy it eventually. Just when it's at a price I'll be prepared to be forgiving about things.

Considering how big an issue this is for some, I think people have been pretty restrained. Not much flaming and pretty well contained in this thread.


Whats strange, is that not a single dev/mod has even tried to re-assure us with the " Wait until Tuesday.I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprized"

And boy, can i use it right now.:blush:


That is actually a nice show of integrity on their part. They don't want to lie to us.

Why did it have to end like this?


I was reassured when they said the following:

"The dialogue options you play through in the demo will be expanded in the game." (https://twitter.com/...146460334596096)

"You choose your lines like in every other Mass Effect game. The game is about choices." (https://twitter.com/...143698699984896)

It now appears that reassurance was false, or misleading at best.

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MisterJB wrote...

Jacen987 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm going to buy it eventually. Just when it's at a price I'll be prepared to be forgiving about things.

Considering how big an issue this is for some, I think people have been pretty restrained. Not much flaming and pretty well contained in this thread.


Whats strange, is that not a single dev/mod has even tried to re-assure us with the " Wait until Tuesday.I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprized"

And boy, can i use it right now.:blush:


That is actually a nice show of integrity on their part. They don't want to lie to us.

Why did it have to end like this?


Hardly, they already lied, when they said ME3 would allow for an even greater control over Shepards responces.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

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Wulfram wrote...

With what people have seen now, I don't really see what they could say. The game is like it is. Maybe a while after release they'll talk to us about the reasoning behind it.

Unless there's some massive bug which has stopped RPG Mode working properly, somehow, and they're scrambling to fix it? No, I can't even sell myself on that theory.


If they learned anything from DA2 it's to not try to sell the resoning behind unpopular things. I think if it ends up being a big deal they will just say "players didn't get it, this is sheps story" or just not talk about it.

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Dues Ex:HR and TW2 where well loved so maybe Bioware thought people would not care about the auto dialog?

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Alraiis wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Jacen987 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm going to buy it eventually. Just when it's at a price I'll be prepared to be forgiving about things.

Considering how big an issue this is for some, I think people have been pretty restrained. Not much flaming and pretty well contained in this thread.


Whats strange, is that not a single dev/mod has even tried to re-assure us with the " Wait until Tuesday.I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprized"

And boy, can i use it right now.:blush:


That is actually a nice show of integrity on their part. They don't want to lie to us.

Why did it have to end like this?


I was reassured when they said the following:

"The dialogue options you play through in the demo will be expanded in the game." (https://twitter.com/...146460334596096)

"You choose your lines like in every other Mass Effect game. The game is about choices." (https://twitter.com/...143698699984896)

It now appears that reassurance was false, or misleading at best.


The Mass Effect twitter is ran by a PR company.

Mr.Manveer works at Bioware. :|

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MisterJB wrote...

Jacen987 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm going to buy it eventually. Just when it's at a price I'll be prepared to be forgiving about things.

Considering how big an issue this is for some, I think people have been pretty restrained. Not much flaming and pretty well contained in this thread.


Whats strange, is that not a single dev/mod has even tried to re-assure us with the " Wait until Tuesday.I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprized"

And boy, can i use it right now.:blush:


That is actually a nice show of integrity on their part. They don't want to lie to us.

Why did it have to end like this?

The ME3 devs actively ignore these forums for the most part, so I think the lack of response is more do to obliviousness than integrity.

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I think this is another "Chicken Little" topic...can't please everybody and those that aren't always seem to fuss about it much louder then everyone else that is enjoying it which is usually most everyone else...

Modifié par lavosslayer, 04 mars 2012 - 11:17 .


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DTKT wrote...

Alraiis wrote...

I was reassured when they said the following:

"The dialogue options you play through in the demo will be expanded in the game." (https://twitter.com/...146460334596096)

"You choose your lines like in every other Mass Effect game. The game is about choices." (https://twitter.com/...143698699984896)

It now appears that reassurance was false, or misleading at best.


The Mass Effect twitter is ran by a PR company.

Mr.Manveer works at Bioware. :|


If they lacked first-hand knowledge, so be it. But that does not mean they should resort to fabrication.

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Alraiis wrote...

DTKT wrote...

Alraiis wrote...

I was reassured when they said the following:

"The dialogue options you play through in the demo will be expanded in the game." (https://twitter.com/...146460334596096)

"You choose your lines like in every other Mass Effect game. The game is about choices." (https://twitter.com/...143698699984896)

It now appears that reassurance was false, or misleading at best.


The Mass Effect twitter is ran by a PR company.

Mr.Manveer works at Bioware. :|


If they lacked first-hand knowledge, so be it. But that does not mean they should resort to fabrication.


It's not exactly fabrication. They can say whatever they want, no one will dispute that. I'm just saying that it would make no sense for Manveer to come out saying that they have less dialogue options.

So, I guess it depends on where you are "ok" with taking your info.

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Who said 1.5 year development cycles for 50-hour games with triple-A production values and 20,000+ lines of fully-voiced dialogue would impact the quality of the final product?

... oh. Oh, right.

#1822
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Atakuma wrote...

The ME3 devs actively ignore these forums for the most part, so I think the lack of response is more do to obliviousness than integrity.


Well, they haven't been responding to tweets on this matter.  While I've got answers on other issues by that method.

Modifié par Wulfram, 04 mars 2012 - 11:27 .


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So what have we learned today? Always listen to the Minister of Sound and/or PoliteAssassin.

Modifié par Minister of Sound, 04 mars 2012 - 11:30 .


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Minister of Sound wrote...

So what have we learned today? Always listen to the Minister of Sound and/or PoliteAssassin.


Unless we see no problem with this.:P

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Alraiis wrote...

I was reassured when they said the following:

"The dialogue options you play through in the demo will be expanded in the game." (https://twitter.com/...146460334596096)

"You choose your lines like in every other Mass Effect game. The game is about choices." (https://twitter.com/...143698699984896)

It now appears that reassurance was false, or misleading at best.


I don't think it was intentionally misleading. It is honest. Sur'Kesh is in the demo and in the game you'll get to speak more before you start shooting. There's still choice in the game, but from the five missions I've seen, it's only about 25% that's up to the player to decide.