XwebraiderX wrote...
Goddy10 wrote...
brunomalta wrote...
Wait...i won´t be able to speak with my squad aboard the Normandy anymore? Really?
I don't know where you heard that from, but that is one of the last remaining sources of real, deep conversation in ME3 from what I hear.
I thought on the normandy everything is auto-dialogue?
Gabey5 wrote...
XwebraiderX wrote...
Goddy10 wrote...
brunomalta wrote...
Wait...i won´t be able to speak with my squad aboard the Normandy anymore? Really?
I don't know where you heard that from, but that is one of the last remaining sources of real, deep conversation in ME3 from what I hear.
I thought on the normandy everything is auto-dialogue?
More like you choose and options and shepard just keeps talking wheras before you got to control everything he daid he will just keep talking.
Gabey5 wrote...
XwebraiderX wrote...
Goddy10 wrote...
brunomalta wrote...
Wait...i won´t be able to speak with my squad aboard the Normandy anymore? Really?
I don't know where you heard that from, but that is one of the last remaining sources of real, deep conversation in ME3 from what I hear.
I thought on the normandy everything is auto-dialogue?
More like you choose and options and shepard just keeps talking wheras before you got to control everything he daid he will just keep talking.
android654 wrote...
Would you like a link? It's very detailed.
XwebraiderX wrote...
Gabey5 wrote...
XwebraiderX wrote...
Goddy10 wrote...
brunomalta wrote...
Wait...i won´t be able to speak with my squad aboard the Normandy anymore? Really?
I don't know where you heard that from, but that is one of the last remaining sources of real, deep conversation in ME3 from what I hear.
I thought on the normandy everything is auto-dialogue?
More like you choose and options and shepard just keeps talking wheras before you got to control everything he daid he will just keep talking.
Wow. I hope its a good thing my expectations get lowered down with every thread I read on the forums. Auto-dialogue, bad writing, bad ending - I think its better I dont visit BSN until March 8th or otherwise my head will collapse.
I think i was WAY to hyped up after ME 2.
android654 wrote...
The thing is there's a lot less decision making going on.
brunomalta wrote...
android654 wrote...
The thing is there's a lot less decision making going on.
Ok...Bad Writing as "Starship Trooper" or "Dragon Age 2" ? lol
CHALET wrote...
brunomalta wrote...
android654 wrote...
The thing is there's a lot less decision making going on.
Ok...Bad Writing as "Starship Trooper" or "Dragon Age 2" ? lol
At least Starship Troopers wasn't trying to take itself seriously.
brunomalta wrote...
android654 wrote...
The thing is there's a lot less decision making going on.
Ok...Bad Writing as "Starship Trooper" or "Dragon Age 2" ? lol
phimseto wrote...
TobyHasEyes wrote...
phimseto wrote...
Rickin10 wrote...
TobyHasEyes wrote...
The only thing I disliked about the Defence Committee scene was the lines Shepard delivered.
And this is the essence of the problem.
Haha...a succinct summarization of the past 85 pages! One of the critical speeches of the entire series for what it represents, and you have very little input into it. Though for me its worse because the way the top brass is written is so awful - as if they were civilians on the street instead of career officers and leaders of men.
If you watch Committee meetings, at least amongst politicians, such remarks wouldn't be ludicrously out of place
And I am not certain the bad lines in that scene are the essence of the problem of auto-dialogue, there are multiple instances throughout all of Mass Effect where you are given the option of two equally bad lines..
This is an example of lines you or I don't like, the problem is not entirely with the auto-dialogue
You are right about politicians. It is why council scenes have always been so deliciously infuriating, and all the more disappointing for how the scene plays when you first speak to them in ME3 and can't play it out the way you want. However, military officers are different and in a situation like this, they wouldn't mope and sulk, they would do their jobs and begin constituting a plan of action. Eh...it just left a bad taste in my mouth, compounded by all the issues I had with the intro in general.
android654 wrote...
brunomalta wrote...
android654 wrote...
The thing is there's a lot less decision making going on.
Ok...Bad Writing as "Starship Trooper" or "Dragon Age 2" ? lol
Umm I'll be fair. It's more like The last movie in the Matrix series. They try to make the end meaning full, but the things in the last chapter seem weak compared to it's first two, so the ending falls kind of flat on it's face. The road to the end has a lot of importance placed on the character, but the rationalization for it doesn't justify how it comes to a full circle.
It's not what I would call horrible, but this particular ending is like something we've seen in Vonnegut novels. Which makes it "okay," but doesn't have that impact everyone expected it to have.
android654 wrote...
brunomalta wrote...
android654 wrote...
The thing is there's a lot less decision making going on.
Ok...Bad Writing as "Starship Trooper" or "Dragon Age 2" ? lol
Umm I'll be fair. It's more like The last movie in the Matrix series. They try to make the end meaning full, but the things in the last chapter seem weak compared to it's first two, so the ending falls kind of flat on it's face. The road to the end has a lot of importance placed on the character, but the rationalization for it doesn't justify how it comes to a full circle.
It's not what I would call horrible, but this particular ending is like something we've seen in Vonnegut novels. Which makes it "okay," but doesn't have that impact everyone expected it to have.
brunomalta wrote...
Dude! I was here on the release date of ME 2. It was the same thing. The same bashing and hate that you see right now.
brunomalta wrote...
XwebraiderX wrote...
Gabey5 wrote...
XwebraiderX wrote...
Goddy10 wrote...
brunomalta wrote...
Wait...i won´t be able to speak with my squad aboard the Normandy anymore? Really?
I don't know where you heard that from, but that is one of the last remaining sources of real, deep conversation in ME3 from what I hear.
I thought on the normandy everything is auto-dialogue?
More like you choose and options and shepard just keeps talking wheras before you got to control everything he daid he will just keep talking.
Wow. I hope its a good thing my expectations get lowered down with every thread I read on the forums. Auto-dialogue, bad writing, bad ending - I think its better I dont visit BSN until March 8th or otherwise my head will collapse.
I think i was WAY to hyped up after ME 2.
Dude! I was here on the release date of ME 2. It was the same thing. The same bashing and hate that you see right now.
brunomalta wrote...
android654 wrote...
brunomalta wrote...
android654 wrote...
The thing is there's a lot less decision making going on.
Ok...Bad Writing as "Starship Trooper" or "Dragon Age 2" ? lol
Umm I'll be fair. It's more like The last movie in the Matrix series. They try to make the end meaning full, but the things in the last chapter seem weak compared to it's first two, so the ending falls kind of flat on it's face. The road to the end has a lot of importance placed on the character, but the rationalization for it doesn't justify how it comes to a full circle.
It's not what I would call horrible, but this particular ending is like something we've seen in Vonnegut novels. Which makes it "okay," but doesn't have that impact everyone expected it to have.
Well, the last Matrix movie was bad as hell! But i got what you meant. Thanks for the input, at least now i can go into it with low expectations and kind off knowing what will come in terms of quality.
phimseto wrote...
brunomalta wrote...
Dude! I was here on the release date of ME 2. It was the same thing. The same bashing and hate that you see right now.
Really? I know there was disdain for the planet scanning, some frustration by players who didn't ace the suicide mission or somehow didn't have enough paragon or renegade points to navigate the conflict conversations, and the whole weapons thing, but in general I thought there was a very positive response. I don't remember hearing much about the dialogue or character interaction, apart from gripes about the villains of the piece (misdirected criticism, since the Collectors weren't the actual villains). Whatever gripes I had about the gameplay, I still felt like it was my Shepard, my story - something that looks like it's getting taken away from me in this next game.
phimseto wrote...
brunomalta wrote...
Dude! I was here on the release date of ME 2. It was the same thing. The same bashing and hate that you see right now.
Really? I know there was disdain for the planet scanning, some frustration by players who didn't ace the suicide mission or somehow didn't have enough paragon or renegade points to navigate the conflict conversations, and the whole weapons thing, but in general I thought there was a very positive response. I don't remember hearing much about the dialogue or character interaction, apart from gripes about the villains of the piece (misdirected criticism, since the Collectors weren't the actual villains). Whatever gripes I had about the gameplay, I still felt like it was my Shepard, my story - something that looks like it's getting taken away from me in this next game.
TobyHasEyes wrote...
Ghost-621 wrote...
Cody211282 wrote...
someguy1231 wrote...
Cody211282 wrote...
phimseto wrote...
And then the scrapping of the trial, because you know...don't want to start "slowly" and waste time setting the stage when we can just shuffle players through the motions!
Was there ever a reason for this being taken out?
I'm sure there's a reason, but they never told us. I'm baffled why they would remove it.
I was really looking forward to that.having to give reasons for all the stuff you did in the first 2 games would have been a great way to start off.
To the shooter crowd that much story is just boring and scary!
Add that to the list of important Mass Effect elements that have been lost to casualization.
I play Mass Effect for the characters and the story, yet to me the idea of a lengthy trial at the offset would be poorly paced and kind of dull.. and for newcomers it would be a disaster, it would mean a solid block of exposition before you even got a chance to get a feel for the game
I don't mourn the absence of that trial at all, and I am certain there are other RPG fans (as opposed to "shooter fans", the alleged enemy of all things Mass Effect) who feel the same
jmood88 wrote...
phimseto wrote...
brunomalta wrote...
Dude! I was here on the release date of ME 2. It was the same thing. The same bashing and hate that you see right now.
Really? I know there was disdain for the planet scanning, some frustration by players who didn't ace the suicide mission or somehow didn't have enough paragon or renegade points to navigate the conflict conversations, and the whole weapons thing, but in general I thought there was a very positive response. I don't remember hearing much about the dialogue or character interaction, apart from gripes about the villains of the piece (misdirected criticism, since the Collectors weren't the actual villains). Whatever gripes I had about the gameplay, I still felt like it was my Shepard, my story - something that looks like it's getting taken away from me in this next game.
People have really short memories, which is why they forget everything that happened in previous games and make everything in the current game to be brand new problems that never happened before. The negativity around Mass Effect 2 was just as bad as it is now, with people saying pretty much the exact same things.
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