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[albertalad]

Pobatti wrote...

albertalad wrote...

Shadow of Terror wrote...

Bit unfair for those of us in Europe waiting for the March 9th release date...
now I can't ask how the guns feel, how everything plays, what class everyone is enjoying the most. I can't talk about the charaters.

Basically, I can read all the spoilers, but I can't ask anything. How does that help?

I can't post in the multiplayer forum about the new characters/weapons/enemies/maps. Hell, I can't even post on the technical help if I' were having a problem registering my game!

I do hope BW understands this is indeed unfair to the EU folks. Sorry you all living in the EU -

I'm in the UK, and while I agree it's a bit less convenient as it stands for EU folks - the only real difference is the matter of the 3 days difference between launch dates. As I've posted several times, there may be issues relating to users not being able to register their copy for one reason or another due to the fact that, not only do you need to be in posession of an online pass, but must have actually used it.

There's a great portion of gamers who have no need for online gaming, or who don't want to get caught up in the monthly fee business associated with Live, or simply don't have their own connections - to folks like me who have an old XBox with the NXE Dashboard and have never upgraded past it suddenly faced with a dilemma - either update the console and risk the potential it might trash your system, or don't play the latest games.

On another forum someone speculated I might not even be able to run Mass Effect 3 at all on my standard NXE not banned or modded ancient XBox360. I hope this is not true - if it is, folks like me have worse things to worry about.

Should you have any problems I would suggest you notice the names of the moderators at the top of this page and contact one of them or several. I did earlier and got a prompt answer from Mr. Woo myself dealing with my issue.

[lookingglassmind]

This is fully, FULLY ridiculous, BioWare. Like... man. I know I'm just another voice in the swarm, but I am NOT impressed by this. We are your _fans_. Anything we do on these forums is promotional behaviour for you and your games, even if it is trolling. It's still publicizing YOU. And you lock us out of your forums because we haven't bought the game -- before we can even BUY the game?

And given the fact that the majority of us likely have pre-ordered, this just adds insult to injury.

Disgusting. Really.

[ArcanaLegacy]

Awwww srsly!? WTF >.< I was gonna say bye to some clanmates due to ME3 gonna suck up my life. XD
Now I gotta register the darn game when i get it in a few hours JUST to post in the thread ive been posting in for over a year!? BLAHHHHHH

Modifié par ArcanaLegacy, 05 mars 2012 - 11:30 .

[lookingglassmind]

And:

Chris Priestly wrote...

Thanks for helping us make teh BioWare Social Network a fun place.

Lol. Just lol. Thanks for making teh BioWare Social Network a capitalist place.

[Pobatti]

albertalad wrote...

Pobatti wrote...

On another forum someone speculated I might not even be able to run Mass Effect 3 at all on my standard NXE not banned or modded ancient XBox360. I hope this is not true - if it is, folks like me have worse things to worry about.

Should you have any problems I would suggest you notice the names of the moderators at the top of this page and contact one of them or several. I did earlier and got a prompt answer from Mr. Woo myself dealing with my issue.

To be honest, I was stressing out a fair bit because of not wanting to update my Dashboard for the reasons I stated in earlier posts, and I've been asking a few folks other sites. It turns out, the reason the new Dashboard might trash my XBox360 is because this firmware rewrites the DVD's firmware for the first time, and some older DVD units cannot handle being flashed in this way.

They're doing this so that DVDs can now hold about 1GB extra data on them. This means, in a nutshell, if I don't update them my XBox will be unable to read all the data on the disks. This basically renders the game useless to me in this situation.

It's not a Bioware issue, it's Microsoft. I haven't bought a 'new' 360 game for a long while, as I bought more PS3 titles this year, so the new DVD format could well be standard practice these days. I'll just have to see if it works - if it doesn't then I may have to trade my copy for a PS3 version (which would solve both that and the registering issue), which I really don't want to do as my whole Mass Effect life is on the XBox360.

Modifié par Pobatti, 05 mars 2012 - 11:36 .

[bluewolv1970]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Hi Everyone

As some of you have discovered, the changes to the BioWare Social Network and the Mass Effect 3 forums are now live.

This General Discussion forum and the News & Annoucnements forums remail open to all, but all other Mass Effect 3 forums will require Game Registration in order to post. We are doing this to make the ME3 forums a place for game owners to discuss the game with fellow game owners as well as BioWare developers.

Thanks for helping us make teh BioWare Social Network a fun place.

Actually that is  a little misleading since it is really NEW game owners only who also have internet access on a console...

[OneFodderUnit]

It's a joke that all ME3 forums besides this one are locked unless you give them money and register a copy. Anyone who wants to buy the game later or has it registered to some other account or who played a friends copy are locked out now.Many of the best threads can't be posted in. I guess I'm not a worthy customer since I only have older games registered on my account. The Dragon Age 2 forum lock is not for all DA2 forums like this one is either.

[aries1001]

Isn't it a bit conflicting or difficult to distinguish between the artist and his work? I mean, can I say: I don't like David Gaider's work on Dragon Age 2 because such and such? Or I don't like how John Epler used this or that angle in ME3? Or how Mac Walters or other writers have written a certain character badly?

I hope the policy is designed to stop people posting direct personal attacks e.g. making statements about their mother and father or their mental state etc. not to stop honest discussion about what we, as forumites, don't like about ME3 or other Bioware games. But still, to use DA2 as an example again, in some threads people wanted a certain person to be let go (just information here). I didn't as I enjoyed DA2 a great deal. And from what I've seen so far I'll enjoy ME3 as well.

But still, let's say I was not satisfied with how a certain quest was written or how a certain character was made. Am I allowed to say: I don't like how Patrick Weekes presented this or that character because of x,y and z, I would have liked it if it had more p and k to it. In a certain light, this could certainly be seen as a attack on the writer, and not his work. And again, just using this as an example.

I'm not sure how tor why the updated rules come into being, but maybe it has something to do with the Hepler incident as well as someone being racist to mr. Woo? (just an observation here). If so, you should deal with those people, imo, and still, imo, not, as I see it, make alterations to the rules that affetcts all forumites because a few people can't behave properly.

Also, as a teacher I know that there are people out there without much education that might state something along the lines of ME3 is a bad game (in less polite terms) and when other forumites, including me, asks them why this is, they can usually explain it. I would very much like it if at least some of these statements and threads stay open without anyone being banned, since these threads actually may evolve into cery intriguing and good discussions.

Also, a question. Are all bans now permanently? or do Bioware devs. etc. still hand out 24 to 72 hours bans? Not that I intend to break the rules or anything like that, Just asking because it seems to me the rules of conduct makes it so that all people who banned automatically are banned permanently...
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[Rulycar]

Ginkasa wrote...

Rulycar wrote...
Whereas I agree with the spirit/intent of these changes ...
... Fascism seems an ineffective response to free speech issues.

There are no free speech issues.  This is a privately owned forum.  You want to post here you have to agree and abide by the owner's rules.  Free speech is only guaranteed by the government from the government. 

I am not using "free speech" in reference to US Government.
I am using "free speech" literally ... the freedom to speak.
Moderators by definition limit posters freedom to speak.

I am arguing for "moderating" the discussion to keep it civilized,
... not "banning" someone because they had a bad week.
If a poster willfully/deliberately violates the forum rules,
... they made their choice, banning seems deserved.
On the other hand,
... banning someone,
... due to an arbitrary "Zero Tolerance" policy
... and subjective definitions of abuse/insult
... doesn't moderate a discussion
... rather, it eliminates an opposing view in its entirety.
This, to me, is heavy-handed and unnecessary.
... Moderators already had the authority to delete offensive posts.

RE: abuse/insults
... I don't understand why people take offense.
... Why give strangers authority over your self-esteem?

[Siven80]

I'm used to the blizzard forums working the same way by having to have a game key registered or a wow sub, and while it doesnt keep all idiots away, it works just fine.

[lookingglassmind]

edited.

Modifié par lookingglassmind, 06 mars 2012 - 12:07 .

[albertalad]

Locking out all previous forums IS a little overkill. That's a dictatorship approach and way over the top. I'm not even sure I can say that anymore - I have the game paid for already and this seems to me a terrible way for BW to react. Moreover, various parts of the world have been cut off for more than a week even through they too paid for their games. You're not gaining loyalty with these sorts of moves - just resentment.

[aries1001]

It has ben this way with all the Bioware games, since at least Dragon Age: Origins. And maybe longer?
It is to keep the discussion etc. civil and somewhat polite, I think...

However, the tech forums should've stayed open untill next monday at least, since a lot of people probably will have problems registering the game.

As for people on Xbox 360 and PS3 using PSN or Xbox Live to log in and play the game at least once, I don't know why EA/Bioware has decided to do this. I do know, however, as stated before, many people do not have an internet connection, or they have either a capped internet connection or an unstable one.
And Xbox Live is only in what? 50-60? countries around the world?

[Pobatti]

aries1001 wrote...

It has ben this way with all the Bioware games, since at least Dragon Age: Origins. And maybe longer?
It is to keep the discussion etc. civil and somewhat polite, I think...

However, the tech forums should've stayed open untill next monday at least, since a lot of people probably will have problems registering the game.

As for people on Xbox 360 and PS3 using PSN or Xbox Live to log in and play the game at least once, I don't know why EA/Bioware has decided to do this. I do know, however, as stated before, many people do not have an internet connection, or they have either a capped internet connection or an unstable one.
And Xbox Live is only in what? 50-60? countries around the world?

I'm a prime candidate for this issue too. I don't know if Bioware/EA can trace the IP address I'm posting from (pretty sure they can), but if they did a reverse DNS on that it would throw up the fact my IP resolves to:

"wv.cust.t-mobile.co.uk"

Yes, that's right, I hook up a T-Mobile (a mobile phone operator) SIM card to periodically access the net via my PC. Not exactly the greatest for playing online games - but fantastic for the price. It's not even broadband. I'm actually amazed that I could play the PS3 demo as well as I could, but when it comes to the full game folks are going to be expecting a bit less lag and connection issues, especially if I'm the one that's hosting...

[Tom Lehrer]

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

Aww, this way I won't be able to read all of the RAGE topics when ME 3 has been released...Such a pity. :

Edit: seems I'll still be able to read the topics. But EA just shut my mouth. Long live democracy!

This is a privetly owned internet forum so they have every right to keep anyone out they want.

[evil-pineapples]

I'm going to say this with civility and respect, because I do respect BioWare and I'm not out to blame anyone here, but...

I think the real reason BioWare closed the spoiler forum to anyone who hasn't registered their copy of the game is because they want to force protesters off the forums. If you aren't goint to buy the game, they don't want your voice heard on the forums. It's a publicity thing.

I obviously don't speak for BioWare, so this is just my own speculation here. But I think it's pretty obvious why they did what they did.

[Pobatti]

evil-pineapples wrote...

I'm going to say this with civility and respect, because I do respect BioWare and I'm not out to blame anyone here, but...

I think the real reason BioWare closed the spoiler forum to anyone who hasn't registered their copy of the game is because they want to force protesters off the forums. If you aren't goint to buy the game, they don't want your voice heard on the forums. It's a publicity thing.

I obviously don't speak for BioWare, so this is just my own speculation here. But I think it's pretty obvious why they did what they did.

That's a strange outlook.

If you run a small country, and you push all the people you don't want out - they end up joining forces with all the other countries. Ultimately the voices that will be heard are those of the entire world, while you can keep the door locked, the curtains closed and pretend you're the most popular guy in the world and everyone loves you...

And how Bioware will be remembered by the majority, and how their reputation is based in the eyes of the majority - is on how the whole internet percieves them, not just the minority, not just a few people on one site but the whole rest of the world.

Nobody comes on here to see what Bioware's reputation is like - folks know what to expect, it's the same with any company in the world. To get the real truth about what companies are like you go to the more 'open to the public' places such as GameFAQS or 4CHAN, or even YOUTUBE.. that's where people really decide what to think.

Modifié par Pobatti, 06 mars 2012 - 02:29 .

[lookingglassmind]

@evil: Honey, it's one thing to close off the forums to people who have not legitmately bought the game. It's quite another to close off the forums BEFORE anyone can prove if they've bought the game or not. I acknowledge your grace in trying to expound BioWare's perspective with a bit of pragmatism, but lack of free speech is always going to be lack of free speech. We collectively pay their wages. And they collectively shut our mouths.

[Pobatti]

lookingglassmind wrote...

@evil: Honey, it's one thing to close off the forums to people who have not legitmately bought the game. It's quite another to close off the forums BEFORE anyone can prove if they've bought the game or not. I acknowledge your grace in trying to expound BioWare's perspective with a bit of pragmatism, but lack of free speech is always going to be lack of free speech. We collectively pay their wages. And they collectively shut our mouths.

And it's another to close off the forums to people who CAN (or WILL be able to) prove they've bought the game to a satisfactory enough degree that it was common practice before with little to no problems. Here, to me, it seems less about whether you've paid your £40 for a brand new title, and more about "Yes! I will become an active online player, helping to keep your servers alive by my presence - proving that adding multiplayer wasn't a mistake!" - and the more people that do this the more evidence Bioware will have that there's support for dropping SP entirely and shifting to MP ONLY.

[albertalad]

I own the game - I have the recipes here in my wallet due to pick up at mid-night, just as I own ME1 and ME2 and I am shut out of the forums. At the rest of being banned that has made no difference at all. Most in the UK and the EU on the forums have paid for their games and they have been cut off for two MORE weeks or so. That doesn't make any sense. The fact is I want BW to succeed beyond their wildest dreams - its necessary for BW to do then every other games developer would be held to this standard thereby vestly improving the entire industry. Which puts me at a loss , in fact this makes me feel all the rumors out there are worst than expect.

[Chris Priestly]

lookingglassmind wrote...

This is fully, FULLY ridiculous, BioWare. Like... man. I know I'm just another voice in the swarm, but I am NOT impressed by this. We are your _fans_. Anything we do on these forums is promotional behaviour for you and your games, even if it is trolling. It's still publicizing YOU. And you lock us out of your forums because we haven't bought the game -- before we can even BUY the game?

Anyone else notice this person is complaining ON the forums? Where they are currently posting? And still have access to? The irony is thick.

We are not barring people from posting on our forums, only limiting which ones they can post in until they register their games, after which, they can post in all Game Owner forums.

[lookingglassmind]

Pobatti wrote...

And it's another to close off the forums to people who CAN (or WILL be able to) prove they've bought the game to a satisfactory enough degree that it was common practice before with little to no problems. Here, to me, it seems less about whether you've paid your £40 for a brand new title, and more about "Yes! I will become an active online player, helping to keep your servers alive by my presence - proving that adding multiplayer wasn't a mistake!" - and the more people that do this the more evidence Bioware will have that there's support for dropping SP entirely and shifting to MP ONLY.

Interesting point, I'll have to think more on this before I commit to an opinion. But superficially and completely without serious analysis -- more of a quick thought -- it seems as though this is the general direction of gaming, regardless. Not so much MP only, but of the utilization of solely online/cloud-based platforms. Dropping SP wouldn't make much sense for a RPG-based company like BioWare, I think. I mean, it's feasible to have an RPG solely MP-based, I guess...(sorta), but it takes away lot of what BioWare's good at. But having everything be online, monopoly-run, Origins-esque? Yeah. And I can see the point you're making in that regard -- this is the evidence of moving in that myopic direction, player opinion be damned.

[lookingglassmind]

Chris, really? Come on. If you don't get the gist of my "complaining", then the irony is indeed thick.