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[AgitatedLemon]

WeWant wrote...

I find the endings pretty happy.

All this whining just because fanboys can't see their Shepard marry Liara/Tali.

Setting technology back centuries is "happy"?

Merging organics and synthetics is "happy"?

I don't think I need to say anything about the Control ending.

[XX55XX]

I_Jedi wrote...

WeWant wrote...

I find the endings pretty happy.

All this whining just because fanboys can't see their Shepard marry Liara/Tali.

Actually, it's because the galaxy is devoid of life.

Well, it's because our choices result in only one consequence. 

I do not see BioWare as an RPG developer anymore - they certainly like linear action games. 

[XX55XX]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

WeWant wrote...

I find the endings pretty happy.

All this whining just because fanboys can't see their Shepard marry Liara/Tali.

Setting technology back centuries is "happy"?

Merging organics and synthetics is "happy"?

I don't think I need to say anything about the Control ending.

At least the galaxy now has a chance. Sad, but a common theme found in many books and movies. 

[corkey sweet]

XX55XX wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

WeWant wrote...

I find the endings pretty happy.

All this whining just because fanboys can't see their Shepard marry Liara/Tali.

Actually, it's because the galaxy is devoid of life.

Well, it's because our choices result in only one consequence. 

I do not see BioWare as an RPG developer anymore - they certainly like linear action games. 

this is true

[natzo]

One would expect that after all the talk about the best ending being hard to achieve, it would be a happy ending. But that even after working hard you still get boned is depressing.

[Halo Quea]

Mr.House wrote...

The big issue with the endings is they make no sense. Why does the Normandy get stranded every time?Why does Shepard not cut off her/his hand or something in the merge ending, how the hell does merge even work outside space magic, how does Shepard survive Destroy if Destroy kills all synthetics and the guardian says to Shepard. "You are also synthetic." Why does every ending get the same lame epilog, why do the two squadmates we take with us to the final battle somehow end up on the Normandy and why do the relays always blow up?

It's just lazy and horrible writing.

When you kill your protagonist TWO TIMES in the SAME story arc........................that's more than just lazy and horrible writing.  

[AgitatedLemon]

natzo wrote...

One would expect that after all the talk about the best ending being hard to achieve, it would be a happy ending. But that even after working hard you still get boned is depressing.

Which is why I hate the endings with a burning passion as it stands.

[ZDPhoenix]

After loyally playing all the ME Games (ME Galaxy too) and the DLC's; I honestly feel that the writing for the endings is some twilight tragic garbage.

If every ending results in tragedy without purpose, you're doing it wrong, Bioware.

[RamirezWolfen]

I think the ending is alright, honestly. Though I do understand that why others are upset over it, though.

[corkey sweet]

if angering 90% of the fanbase was bioware's goal. Then mission accomplished fellas

Modifié par corkey sweet, 03 mars 2012 - 02:52 .

[Halo Quea]

RamirezWolfen wrote...

I think the ending is alright, honestly. Though I do understand that why others are upset over it, though.

I'll say it again. When you kill the protagonist TWO TIMES in the SAME story arc?   That's just bad writing all the way around.

Resurrecting dead characters is bad enough, it's cheap and it's cliched.   But killing your hero TWICE? Since when does that become good story telling?

[Multiplayer optional LOL]

Marrying your LI? LOL please. I'd be happier if Shepard and his/her LI died together.

Oh and without the galaxy getting boned in EVERY SINGLE ENDING.

[corkey sweet]

i would have been happy with shepard just being with his LI at the end. marrying would be stupid

[WeWant]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

WeWant wrote...

I find the endings pretty happy.

All this whining just because fanboys can't see their Shepard marry Liara/Tali.

Setting technology back centuries is "happy"?

Merging organics and synthetics is "happy"?

I don't think I need to say anything about the Control ending.

You defeat the reapers. The galaxy can start again.

[RamirezWolfen]

Halo Quea wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

I think the ending is alright, honestly. Though I do understand that why others are upset over it, though.

I'll say it again. When you kill the protagonist TWO TIMES in the SAME story arc?   That's just bad writing all the way around.

Resurrecting dead characters is bad enough, it's cheap and it's cliched.   But killing your hero TWICE? Since when does that become good story telling?

It seems that Shepard, the character, is a Jesus reference, to me at least. He dies twice before he goes to heaven, if I recall correctly.

[AgitatedLemon]

WeWant wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

WeWant wrote...

I find the endings pretty happy.

All this whining just because fanboys can't see their Shepard marry Liara/Tali.

Setting technology back centuries is "happy"?

Merging organics and synthetics is "happy"?

I don't think I need to say anything about the Control ending.

You defeat the reapers. The galaxy can start again.

You're forgetting about the billions (Or trillions) of people dying, species going extinct, and the many various aliens trapped on Earth for the Destroy ending (Goodbye quarians and turians).

Oh, I also forgot about synthetic life of all kinds being all but eradicated.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 03 mars 2012 - 03:03 .

[XX55XX]

RamirezWolfen wrote...

Halo Quea wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

I think the ending is alright, honestly. Though I do understand that why others are upset over it, though.

I'll say it again. When you kill the protagonist TWO TIMES in the SAME story arc?   That's just bad writing all the way around.

Resurrecting dead characters is bad enough, it's cheap and it's cliched.   But killing your hero TWICE? Since when does that become good story telling?

It seems that Shepard, the character, is a Jesus reference, to me at least. He dies twice before he goes to heaven, if I recall correctly.

Wow... I never thought of Shepard as Jesus... Nice allusion. 

[ddv.rsa]

The hollow, pyrrhic victory at the end is highly depressing. Hours of gameplay and emotional investment over several years are squandered in an instant. Who wants that a slap in the face like that? I want entertainment, I want reward for my effort. Sorry BW, I don't enjoy feeling depressed and it's certainly not an experience I'm going to pay money for. While you get people who enjoy having pain inflicted on them and even pay for it, that isn't my thing.

[Mr.House]

WeWant wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

WeWant wrote...

I find the endings pretty happy.

All this whining just because fanboys can't see their Shepard marry Liara/Tali.

Setting technology back centuries is "happy"?

Merging organics and synthetics is "happy"?

I don't think I need to say anything about the Control ending.

You defeat the reapers. The galaxy can start again.

The relays always blow up and the Normandy is stranded. Ya that's not a good ending.

[Balek-Vriege]

I'm fine with the endings from what I have heard, since I can't seem to find them and now have lost interest in finding them. It really sets up the universe up for a dark age in any future installments. I also like how they seem to explore the greatest scifi/futuristic problems - technological singularities, the cycular nature of civilization, doomed destinies and the futility of avoiding said things. With a Galactic "reset," ME has a chance to explore scifi in a similar fashion as Warhammer 40K and the Dune series. Minus the warp/magic of 40K, the mysticism of Dune and throw biotics in instead.

We will see if there's other endings, but I will assume the ones we have heard of are the only ones. My only concern, like I have seen some others mention, is that this sets up Mass Effect for the "prequel curse" if the writers don't want to tackle plot difficulties post ME3. I hate how Star Wars has been stuck for decades without any plot progression.

The Star Trek universe had a different problem. It went the happy ending route where the good guys end up controlling the galaxy (and exploring other galaxies as well). They avoided the "happily ever after" with time travel and time alteration. That's not an option for Mass Effect so the dystopian turn is good imo.

[XX55XX]

ddv.rsa wrote...

The hollow, pyrrhic victory at the end is highly depressing. Hours of gameplay and emotional investment over several years are squandered in an instant. Who wants that a slap in the face like that? I want entertainment, I want reward for my effort. Sorry BW, I don't enjoy feeling depressed and it's certainly not an experience I'm going to pay money for. While you get people who enjoy having pain inflicted on them and even pay for it, that isn't my thing.

Funny, I remember people wanting this sort of ending back when ME3 was announced. I wanted it, too. Now I have it, but without other endings, I am somewhat annoyed. I want to see a greater variety of endings.

But, at least they've set the canon for a future ME title. 

[Naqey]

no, you´re not the only one
no, "most" people don´t want a happy ending
what most people actually want are many different options, ranging from "depressing" and "realistic" to "butterflies and rainbows"
as it stands, we only get different variations of "sad"
so not, you´re not the only one who likes the endings as they are

Modifié par Naqey, 03 mars 2012 - 03:04 .

[Halo Quea]

RamirezWolfen wrote...

Halo Quea wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

I think the ending is alright, honestly. Though I do understand that why others are upset over it, though.

I'll say it again. When you kill the protagonist TWO TIMES in the SAME story arc?   That's just bad writing all the way around.

Resurrecting dead characters is bad enough, it's cheap and it's cliched.   But killing your hero TWICE? Since when does that become good story telling?

It seems that Shepard, the character, is a Jesus reference, to me at least. He dies twice before he goes to heaven, if I recall correctly.

It's not something that you would expect from a seasoned writing team.   This is the kind of stuff you'd see in a daytime soap opera or something.   A character keeps dying and resurrecting over and over again. lol

It's just poor story telling, and the Jesus reference isn't going to save it.   Shepard ALREADY DIED ONCE,  killing him twice is ridiculous.  It's amatuer stuff.  

[RamirezWolfen]

XX55XX wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

Halo Quea wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

I think the ending is alright, honestly. Though I do understand that why others are upset over it, though.

I'll say it again. When you kill the protagonist TWO TIMES in the SAME story arc?   That's just bad writing all the way around.

Resurrecting dead characters is bad enough, it's cheap and it's cliched.   But killing your hero TWICE? Since when does that become good story telling?

It seems that Shepard, the character, is a Jesus reference, to me at least. He dies twice before he goes to heaven, if I recall correctly.

Wow... I never thought of Shepard as Jesus... Nice allusion. 

And considering that Shepard does leave the galaxy with hope for the future, like what is said about Jesus (of course he leaves earth for heaven instead of the galaxy), the allusion makes even more sense. At least, that's how I see it.

[Mr.House]

I think Bioware got the endings of ME2 and ME3 mixed around since you know, ME2 had a happy ending where in ME3 it's just downright depressing.