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ME3 ending lacks closure. Why, BioWare? You don't cap a trilogy like this.


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Shadowstalker79 wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

Shadowstalker79 wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

I-Allister wrote...

So youve played the game from begining to end and think its lacking closure towards the end? Or did the rumors and odd leaks make believe that?


those aren't rumors. those are hard facts given by people who played the game start to finish.

they also had full readiness

Ill tell you what... if those people really want us to believe they have played the game from start to finish and want to prove it. Why not record themselves playing it? Why not show us hard proof that they ARE playing it and not just extracting files from the disk and running with speculation on what they think is going to happen?


It's not allowed. They can't do that until the game is released.

listen to what your saying. These same people dont have a problem throwing cut up portions of unfinished endings on youtube and saying all the ending leave you screwed but these same people cant show that they really are playing the game and not ripping files and thinking they know all the ways it could end?


It's *finished* endings.

Other than that, "These same people dont have a problem throwing finished endings on youtube and saying all the ending leave you
screwed but these same people cant show that they really are playing the
game and not ripping files and thinking they know all the ways it could
end."

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Few seconds early. There's a better scene where the engines are ripped apart around 1;03

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Aargh12 wrote...

@Eterna5:
Oh boy, you still believe the endings are fake or there are more endings? Those were pulled right from game's files. If there were more stuff in them, ppl would have discovered it a long time ago. They didn't. Anyway, I just want to see your reaction after you've reached the end.


No, I believe we don't know everything about the endings and people are filling in the blanks with fallacy. 

 I dont even mind the endings, so my reaction would be kind of boring. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 03 mars 2012 - 08:10 .


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They were terrible.

Not for me :)

They were overly philosophical,

And I really liked that since there aren't  many games that have philosophical endings and also dealing with the whole transhumanism problem. I liked that.

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And I also liked that. I'm tired with the whole cinematic stuff that games have these days. That was original.

, and didn't tell us how the world reacted to Jensen's choice. There is no closure to HR.

And nobody said DE:HR would be closed or would end Jensen's story. That's why the endings could be enigmatic. But ME3 is whole different. It was supposed to close Shepards involvement in the universe, it was meant to close his story arc in a satysfying way. It won't.

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Super.Sid wrote...

360 Magazine: How on Earth are you going to end Shepard’s story in a satisfactory way for everyone?

Mike Gamble: There are many ways to end Shepard’s story, right? I wouldn’t necessarily say ending Shepard’s story means one thing or the other, like life or death or whatever. It comes to a conclusion and how you get to that conclusion.

There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get there. As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions. It’s not cut and dry.
There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…
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So can anyone explain to me what is going on ?

Fat trolling, that what <_<

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Super.Sid wrote...

360 Magazine: How on Earth are you going to end Shepard’s story in a satisfactory way for everyone?

Mike Gamble: There are many ways to end Shepard’s story, right? I wouldn’t necessarily say ending Shepard’s story means one thing or the other, like life or death or whatever. It comes to a conclusion and how you get to that conclusion.

There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get there. As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions. It’s not cut and dry.
There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…
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So can anyone explain to me what is going on ?


You've been lied to. But your not alone.

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Maybe they didnt with what the Day one patch putting more endings in as EA knew the contriversy surounding the situation would attract more people. But then there is all those cancelled pre-orders..

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Eterna5 wrote...

Aargh12 wrote...

@Eterna5:
Oh boy, you still believe the endings are fake or there are more endings? Those were pulled right from game's files. If there were more stuff in them, ppl would have discovered it a long time ago. They didn't. Anyway, I just want to see your reaction after you've reached the end.


No, I believe we don't know everything about the endings and people are filling in the blanks with fallacy. 

and thank you!   It seems that there are at least a few people on here besides me that feel those that are leaking or saying that have played all the way through, dont really know much of anything and are running on speculation and or half ripped data that they dont understand.

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Jackal7713 wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

360 Magazine: How on Earth are you going to end Shepard’s story in a satisfactory way for everyone?

Mike Gamble: There are many ways to end Shepard’s story, right? I wouldn’t necessarily say ending Shepard’s story means one thing or the other, like life or death or whatever. It comes to a conclusion and how you get to that conclusion.

There a risks involved in how you get there or how you completely not get there. As in the previous games, you’ll make a decision and you’ll see the outcome and there are huge risks to all of those decisions. It’s not cut and dry.
There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…
_________________________________________________________________________________
So can anyone explain to me what is going on ?


You've been lied to. But your not alone.


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Shadowstalker79 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Aargh12 wrote...

@Eterna5:
Oh
boy, you still believe the endings are fake or there are more endings?
Those were pulled right from game's files. If there were more stuff in
them, ppl would have discovered it a long time ago. They didn't. Anyway,
I just want to see your reaction after you've reached the end.


No, I believe we don't know everything about the endings and people are filling in the blanks with fallacy. 

and
thank you!   It seems that there are at least a few people on here
besides me that feel those that are leaking or saying that have played
all the way through, dont really know much of anything and are running
on speculation and or half ripped data that they dont understand.


Then your dissapointment is assured.

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Drimberly wrote...

Maybe they didnt with what the Day one patch putting more endings in as EA knew the contriversy surounding the situation would attract more people. But then there is all those cancelled pre-orders..


Yep. Even if it's a marketing ploy, and that's a huge "if" at this point, it's an awful one, or one that they could have used to their advantage to generate good publicity over bad. But, they didn't. 

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Another conspiracy is that the franchise deliberately ruined the endings coz of known issues.

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Super.Sid wrote...

Another conspiracy is that EA deliberately ruined the endings coz of known issues.


Fixed.

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I_Jedi wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

Another conspiracy is that EA deliberately ruined the endings coz of known issues.


Fixed.


Oh no. This is not entirely EA's fault. In the end, BioWare wrote it and lied through their teeth when promoting it. To say BioWare is just an innocent developer swept up under the pressures of EA to launch a game is silly. They're just as culpable imo.

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GBGriffin wrote...

Drimberly wrote...

Maybe they didnt with what the Day one patch putting more endings in as EA knew the contriversy surounding the situation would attract more people. But then there is all those cancelled pre-orders..


Yep. Even if it's a marketing ploy, and that's a huge "if" at this point, it's an awful one, or one that they could have used to their advantage to generate good publicity over bad. But, they didn't. 

it dosent matter if they did something like this as a marketing ploy for publicity which I dont feel is the case because everyone here that is complaining about endings that they really dont know the full story behind are the ones that are going to go out and play the game anyway. So in the end its these people that are helping Bioware to hype up the game and Bioware is just sitting back making the money regardless.

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I believe the October leak made them aware of the negative criticism but by that time they were already in production and they had deadlines to meet, not to mention that the release got delayed by 3 months. So it was improbable for them to change the script, hence they are best trying to hide it and continue with what they have done.

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GBGriffin wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

Another conspiracy is that EA deliberately ruined the endings coz of known issues.


Fixed.


Oh no. This is not entirely EA's fault. In the end, BioWare wrote it and lied through their teeth when promoting it. To say BioWare is just an innocent developer swept up under the pressures of EA to launch a game is silly. They're just as culpable imo.


After the debacle of DA2, I'm sure EA would have been more than happy to let them delay the game by a year. But they forged on.

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XX55XX wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

I_Jedi wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

Another conspiracy is that EA deliberately ruined the endings coz of known issues.


Fixed.


Oh no. This is not entirely EA's fault. In the end, BioWare wrote it and lied through their teeth when promoting it. To say BioWare is just an innocent developer swept up under the pressures of EA to launch a game is silly. They're just as culpable imo.


After the debacle of DA2, I'm sure EA would have been more than happy to let them delay the game by a year. But they forged on.


And so it begins.

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How can wormholes not exist in Mass Effect when they exist in reality? Whether or not they can be used for travel is a different matter.

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I-Allister wrote...

So youve played the game from begining to end and think its lacking closure towards the end? Or did the rumors and odd leaks make believe that?


Just the audio files, .bik video files, script leak, and the two sources who back this information up.

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The Free Jaffa wrote...

How can wormholes not exist in Mass Effect when they exist in reality? Whether or not they can be used for travel is a different matter.


real wormholes are too small and rare.

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The ending leak has killed most of the fan base and the franchise. Imagine what the hardcore fans, who are staying away from spoilers, would have to say when they finish the game.

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Super.Sid wrote...

The ending leak has killed most of the fan base and the franchise. Imagine what the hardcore fans, who are staying away from spoilers, would have to say when they finish the game.


The moderators will enter banning season because they will be that angry.

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I agree on the closure part. I've come to accept the ends (still sad by them but accept them). It would of been an awesome ending to me if whom ever you left on earth to fight gave a eulogy.

So say it was Ash/Kaiden and Garrus/Tali/ or whom ever you wanted it to be were there. What if they started giving the eulogy and the camera panned by each of them and a dialogue wheel came up for Ash who would say some words then the camera goes to Garrus, dialogue wheel shows up he says some words.

This would show just how much Shepard and all whom were close to them meant, and what he/she did was something the galaxy could never repay. and so on and so forth

That's one way for closure. They get to talk about the man/woman they spent all this time with up to that very point and how he/she would be missed.

Or if Shepard survives he could do the same exact thing for whomever gave their lives.

May sound silly, but it just popped into my head.


I would like that. Who knows, we just might get a scene like that rendered as an in-game cutscene. But at this stage, there really isn't a point of bring our hopes up.

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@I_Jedi : But it won't solve the purpose or answer the questions that people are asking. If one person gets banned two will rise up in support of him, the number of responses will be overwhelming and I don't really expect each and every one to get banned coz its not humanly possible.