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[Repearized Miranda]

jreezy wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...

If that scene has emotion flowing through it and is appropriate with whichever relationship shown, then I could care less if there is skin or not, this whole mindset of skin = more mature boggles my mind. I could relate that to Jack's scene, her scene had a lot of emotion going through it and it was right for WHO she is and what their relationships means; no sex and ending in a calm cuddled state, just being there for each other and embracing each other (while not rushing or forcing anything upon her, which is important).

Now, with that small glimpse of Ash and Shep, when was the last time they spent time with each other, almost 3 years? I can image it being really passionate (tearing off clothing, doing whatever) because what they've been through with each other. If it fades to black before going any futher, use your imagination if needed - Bioware doesn't have to show everything, at least IMO.

Nailed it.

Where is the clapping smiley! I don't wanna put up those YT videos again (and most know which ones I'm talking about), haha!

[Aryck the One]

redsox95MB wrote...

Hey, it was more skin than was shown in Mass Effect 2. Not counting Jack of course, that was just weird.

This. The love scenes in ME3 are more like Dragon Age:Origins, which suits me just fine. Better than ME2 with it's PG-rated sex scenes.

[TonyTitan]

Doesn't really matter to me....If BioWare needs to keep the 'sexual' content tame....I don't mind. Let them roll around in their underwear.

The only thing that I'd hope BioWare would continue to allow, is the ability to change clothing textures....That way, *IF* I'd like to see a scene played out in a mature way later on....chances are that some game mod will turn up that would allow me to watch it that way.

[Rockpopple]

There's a glimpse in the Launch Trailer. If you liked what you got in ME1 and 2 you should be satisfied with it in ME3.

... ew. Satisfied.

[Zanallen]

I have no need to see naked video game characters. Implied sex is more than fine for me. Having a lead up followed by a fade to black is more than enough.

[Rockworm503]

as long as its not as tacky as the DAO underwear scenes than I wont complain

[Chuvvy]

PG-13 is an overstatment. They're PG. I just hate how hypocritical bioware is. They won't do nudity, but every female character is in a skin tight cat suit, or has their ****** hanging out, or both.

Modifié par Slidell505, 03 mars 2012 - 06:35 .

[AgitatedLemon]

I certainly don't mind how they were in ME2, and that was incredibly tame. So long as it doesn't turn into literal fully-clothed dry humping, I'll be fine.

To be honest, my personal favorite romance scene from the games so far is the one associated with the character in my avatar and signature, and all that was shown was her belly button, her frontal torso, and bra.

[UKillMeLongTime]

witcher 2 seems to be bringing the sex to the xbox ME3 needs to amp it up

and imo DLC would not have been a bad idea. I p;layed a game where the dancers had pastys on but for 180 ms points (or something like that ) they were topless
So i paid to see boobs but its more of you agreeing you are 18

[Fidget6]

As others have said, regardless of the amount of skin it shows, the most important thing is that it's appropriate to the romance. It's the same as with movies. In films I've seen everything from fade-to-black to full frontal scenes from both actors that leave nothing to the imagination, and everything in between. The most important thing in that kind of scene is for it to be appropriate to those characters. Tali's sex scene in ME2 would be an example of a scene that is not appropriate for the romance. Tali's romance was sweet and almost innocent, like a teenager's first love. So her crazy lunge onto Shep like a crazed animal and riding him like a donkey looked a bit ridiculous. If it was someone who was a bit more experienced and having a more casual attitude about sex it would have been perfectly appropriate though. It's all about context.

[Perkocet13]

Bachi1230 wrote...

I think they were scared by the whole "FOX Scandal" with Liara's blue butt showing that they're playing it safe from now on.

who here liked liara's blue butt? (raises hand)

[future_usmc]

I liked the ME1 romance. I feel it showed just the right amount of skin. Not too much so that it was tasteful but not too little that it was stupid. I hated the romance scenes in ME2. BTW PG13 has better scenes than the ME2 scenes

[KingNothing125]

I thought both the ME1 and ME2 scenes were appropriate and agree with many here who have said that more skin does not mean more mature.

The only caveat I would add is that certain relationships (the Miranda scene, for example) could have used more (implied) nudity simply because the fully-clothed humping was not plausible at all.

The small glimpse of Ashley in the launch trailer was pitch-perfect... believable yet tasteful; that's all I ask for.

[Repearized Miranda]

Slidell505 wrote...

PG-13 is an overstatment. They're PG. I just hate how hypocritical bioware is. They won't do nudity, but every female character is in a skin tight cat suit, or has their ****** hanging out, or both.

But wait! You're missing the point! I understand the argument that while we see that, it's implied!

I mean, where do women get off saying: "Let me slip into something more comfortable," but don't come out in their birthday suits? I am not saying this to be funny; yet, women especially sneer saying that it's how men think! They really may as well just wear their birthday suits only. (Again, I'm not trying incite anything)

Some prefer NOT to see everything. What did a pinch of alien side-boob get ME1? Exactly! However, it's not them being hypocrites as opposed to the viewer's imagination running away with them - which is why the implication is there. Everybody can conjure up all kinds of stuff when describing romps. Look at the YT romp videos where there's absolutely nothing going on, but the ideas you come up with are crazy as to what you think is!

When people comment as such, they are accused of having dirty minds; however, a dirty mind is due to the implication! Ever played that game when describing things, but your mind wanders and you give the wrong, but "appropriate" answers?

Heck, Garrus' spiel about going toe-to-toe with a female officer had nothing to do with sex - he was talking about playing twister! But even Shepard (and the player) shook his/her head because the same thought crossed his/her mind - especially with the "I had reach, but she had flexibility!" part. But I guess, he should have said exactly what he was talking about!

No point in using one's imagination anymore! This is ironic considering this is a video game. As much as film and tv put out there (binding to rules, of course) - one can still use his or her imagination and what's conjured up will be different than what actually there!

It's odd how nothing is imaginative anymore when we feel it ought to be; however, we feel as though we shouldn't use ours!

Who are the hypocrites here?

[Liber320]

You don't need to actually show anything, but the scenes would be much more believeable without clothes.

I mean, we're in an age where you have full-frontal male nudity in games(GTA *cough*) and a little side-boob with our sex scene is "too much"?

I can't help but question the values of a society where it is perfectly fine to show people getting killed or brutally murdered, but a consentual sex scene is considered a threat to our very moral fibre.

[Yuqi]

Wasn't it the 'ZOMG Lesbians!' issue with Fox?

[AgitatedLemon]

Yuqi wrote...

Wasn't it the 'ZOMG Lesbians!' issue with Fox?

I don't think so. IIRC, they called the original ME game a "porn simulator", and said various absurd things.

I remember 1 point being that Shepard could engage in "any number of sexual activities with the various women aboard the ship, with no repercussions."

I want the game they were playing... 

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 03 mars 2012 - 07:29 .

[future_usmc]

KingNothing125 wrote...

I thought both the ME1 and ME2 scenes were appropriate and agree with many here who have said that more skin does not mean more mature.

The only caveat I would add is that certain relationships (the Miranda scene, for example) could have used more (implied) nudity simply because the fully-clothed humping was not plausible at all.

The small glimpse of Ashley in the launch trailer was pitch-perfect... believable yet tasteful; that's all I ask for.

I disagree just becuase of the bra, I don't know about you guys but the bra is usually one of the first things to go when I'm having sex just saying so i find it unbelieveable that she would have it on. (Unbelieveable as in: come on you would have taken it off. not unbelieveable: Oh my god this is unbelieveable someone explain this with science)

[Eumerin]

Slidell505 wrote...

They won't do nudity, but every female character is in a skin tight cat suit, or has their ****** hanging out, or both.

They did do nudity in ME1.  And personally, out of all of the sex scenes that Bioware has done in their two current franchises (i.e. ME1, ME2, DAO, and DA2), I found the ME1 scenes the worst.  I skip them whenever I do an ME1 playthrough.  Lots of skin might make porn.  But it doesn't necessarily make good sex scenes.  The latter depends on other variables, and can even cut away while both partners are still fully clothed.  The quality depends on the direction of the scene (including the immediate lead-up), and not how much skin the participants are showing.

[MrnDvlDg161]

Well this is where my PC people will have an edge on us console players, they can easily fix the PG-13 bit into a XXX with some good coding and Mods. Wallah --- then you can see Ashley in all her flesh.

But to get back to the orginal post --- it is very clear to me that the first BioWare editions of not only Mass Effect but Dragon Age has been watered down --- you can't get anymore NC-17 than Dragon Age which makes ME look like a school kid. I thought ME1's scenes were tasteful and although it showed some things... it really didn't show all too much, just enough to put your imagination along with the scene. It wasn't dirty. It wasn't pornographic. It was part of the story... just like that subtle scene you could have had if you chose the right conversation paths with the Asari Courtesan in ME1 ( the Citadel). In that one --- you had her reeling with a palm crushed against the glass window. That in itself was a proclomation all on its own without getting xxx shall we say.

No I prefer my more Risque Bioware in that regard, it wasn't over the top --- just right, like a perfect cup of tea.

Just my opinion. And who couldn't say no to Ashley's love scene with the poetry quotes and dialogue leading to their consummation?

Let the dag gone cannon take its course I say --- and let the kiddies wait till their older to play it if that should be the case, Mass Effect is a serious game for serious Sci Fi fans.

[Fidget6]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Wasn't it the 'ZOMG Lesbians!' issue with Fox?

I don't think so. IIRC, they called the original ME game a "porn simulator", and said various absurd things.

I remember 1 point being that Shepard could engage in "any number of sexual activities with the various women aboard the ship, with no repercussions."

I want the game they were playing... 

Yeah, they said there was full frontal nudity and you played as a digital pimp that could have sex with any woman you wanted in the game.  When the video game guy they had on asked if she'd even played the game she said "No!" as if actually researching what the hell you're talking about would have been the most absurd idea ever. The caption was "Sex Box" I remember lol. Later she apologized and retracted her statements, when she actually sat down and watched someone play the game she admitted the sex scenes were no worse than something you would see on an episode of Lost. 

[xentar]

Well, it seems nudity is only ok these days if it's used to display mutilated bodies...

[az350z]

Video game, friends. If these scenes turn you on, the internet is full of "answers."

[Wardka]

The Fox News "scandal" probably worked as free advertising for the game and likely sold them many more additional copies.

[slimgrin]

I still think they should show more skin than they did in ME2. But I'll be happy if we get a night club with Asari dancers.