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[ZLurps]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

Oh, boy. I just derailed the thread about videogame nudity didn't I?

Hey, man, discussing sexuality in Renaissance art >>> discussing 2 minutes of polygons humping, IMO 

"My fictional sex is better than your fictional sex"?

The hypocrisy is rampant in this one.

Hmm... if I just find blondes and red heads more attractive than brunettes, does it make my hypocrite to say so if someone else likes brunettes?

[mauro2222]

@chengthao

Indeed, sex is unnatural and bad, it's a sin.

Stupid culture.

[chengthao]

mauro2222 wrote...

@chengthao

Indeed, sex is unnatural and bad, it's a sin.

Stupid culture.

i never quite understood their arguement that "sex is bad, but going to war and sacrificing thousands of lives" is ok

ummm . . . isn't sex vital to the survival of our species and isn't war/killing/violence the exact opposite of that?

[fropas]

ZLurps wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

Oh, boy. I just derailed the thread about videogame nudity didn't I?

Hey, man, discussing sexuality in Renaissance art >>> discussing 2 minutes of polygons humping, IMO 

"My fictional sex is better than your fictional sex"?

The hypocrisy is rampant in this one.

Hmm... if I just find blondes and red heads more attractive than brunettes, does it make my hypocrite to say so if someone else likes brunettes?

No it makes you a hypocrite to say discussing blondes is>>>than discussing brunettes. Some people like discussing brunettes, so discouraging that discussion makes you sound self-centered. . .like your opinions are more important.

[mauro2222]

chengthao wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

@chengthao

Indeed, sex is unnatural and bad, it's a sin.

Stupid culture.

i never quite understood their arguement that "sex is bad, but going to war and sacrificing thousands of lives" is ok

ummm . . . isn't sex vital to the survival of our species and isn't war/killing/violence the exact opposite of that?

War gives profit, while love does not.

[TheRealJayDee]

Have to post this on every such thread.

[ZLurps]

fropas wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

Oh, boy. I just derailed the thread about videogame nudity didn't I?

Hey, man, discussing sexuality in Renaissance art >>> discussing 2 minutes of polygons humping, IMO 

"My fictional sex is better than your fictional sex"?

The hypocrisy is rampant in this one.

Hmm... if I just find blondes and red heads more attractive than brunettes, does it make my hypocrite to say so if someone else likes brunettes?

No it makes you a hypocrite to say discussing blondes is>>>than discussing brunettes. Some people like discussing brunettes, so discouraging that discussion makes you sound self-centered. . .like your opinions are more important.

OMG, that's correct.

/ bed.

[chengthao]

mauro2222 wrote...

chengthao wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

@chengthao

Indeed, sex is unnatural and bad, it's a sin.

Stupid culture.

i never quite understood their arguement that "sex is bad, but going to war and sacrificing thousands of lives" is ok

ummm . . . isn't sex vital to the survival of our species and isn't war/killing/violence the exact opposite of that?

War gives profit, while love does not.

. . . . well . . . . ppl can profit from "love", but its "illegal" b/c sex is bad but war is good

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

ZLurps wrote...

One way to approach sex scenes is pondering the limitations of the media. Games are visual and we can't deliver emotions like longing, love, lust and other things, like touch. We can't make long descriptions of them, games are not books so we have visual presentation, voice acting, music for mood.

Sure we can. Plenty of games (Planescape: Torment, for instance) use text quite effectively to depict emotions/senses/etc.

ZLurps wrote... 
In the other hand, how much is tasteful to show? Where is the point where visual presentation turns from portraying emotions and human interaction to exploitation or porn?

I think the main issue is this: our visual media (print media are a little better at this) tend not to depict the sort of sex that people actually have in the real world. You've got the hollywood sort of sex and the porn sort of sex, both of which are equally unrelated to IRL sex. Mass Effect is clearly working in the hollywood tradition here, and is doing so in a particulary awkward manner.

[AgitatedLemon]

ZLurps wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

Oh, boy. I just derailed the thread about videogame nudity didn't I?

Hey, man, discussing sexuality in Renaissance art >>> discussing 2 minutes of polygons humping, IMO 

"My fictional sex is better than your fictional sex"?

The hypocrisy is rampant in this one.

Hmm... if I just find blondes and red heads more attractive than brunettes, does it make my hypocrite to say so if someone else likes brunettes?

... What?

That has nothing to do with what I said.

It would be hypocritical if you said you like blondes, then turn around and said blondes suck.

[joriandrake]

I remember the old Bluebyte RPG Albion, no one made a fuss about it showing in it alien ******, and that in a whole city as the culture of the feline species didn't bother much with shame. Good times, I wish there was an Albion 2

[Mark of the Dragon]

I think they are fine the way they are. Howevver I do prefe ME1's romance secene's better. I felt htey had a lot of emotion and feeling in them while not showing to much.

Modifié par Mark of the Dragon, 03 mars 2012 - 11:27 .

[fropas]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

... What?

That has nothing to do with what I said.

It would be a contradiction if you said you like blondes, then turn around and said blondes suck.

(It would be hypocritical if you said, "blondes suck" then you dated a blonde. (fixed )).

[mauro2222]

chengthao wrote...

. . . . well . . . . ppl can profit from "love", but its "illegal" b/c sex is bad but war is good

Indeed, but war it's more profitable, and love is a big problem when the thing that moves war is fear and irracional hate.

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

Sparatus wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...
and is doing so in a particulary awkward manner.

One of the biggest failings of Mass Effect is just how hard they try to make it sexy. And how it just makes the game weird. Like one of the spoiler squadmates, or Miranda's ass shots, or the entire asari species. So much of that stuff is unneccessary and just detracts from the game and story.

Haha, true. The spoiler squaddie in particular, because her face modeling landed right in the uncanny valley.

[chengthao]

mauro2222 wrote...

chengthao wrote...

. . . . well . . . . ppl can profit from "love", but its "illegal" b/c sex is bad but war is good

Indeed, but war it's more profitable, and love is a big problem when the thing that moves war is fear and irracional hate.

not arguing with you there, but lust is also a pretty strong "emotion"

there's no reason why both can't be profitable, is my point

why is war ok but sex bad? why can't both be ok or both be bad?

its just ridiculous if you ask me

[fropas]

Sparatus wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...
and is doing so in a particulary awkward manner.

One of the biggest failings of Mass Effect is just how hard they try to make it sexy. And how it just ends up making the games weird. Like one of the spoiler squadmates, or Miranda's ass shots, or the entire asari species. So much of that stuff is unneccessary and just detracts from the game and story.

I dunno I kinda like the Asari strippers, because I can tell they used full-motion capture to depict the body movements, so they never felt weird to me.

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

chengthao wrote...

why is war ok but sex bad? why can't both be ok or both be bad?

I don't think anyone in this thread is saying "sex is bad." It's more "awkward depictions of sex are awkward."

[joriandrake]

fropas wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

... What?

That has nothing to do with what I said.

It would be a contradiction if you said you like blondes, then turn around and said blondes suck.

(It would be hypocritical if you said, "blondes suck" then you dated a blonde. (fixed )).

depends on interpretation of that comment XD   (sorry)

[fropas]

joriandrake wrote...

fropas wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

... What?

That has nothing to do with what I said.

It would be a contradiction if you said you like blondes, then turn around and said blondes suck.

(It would be hypocritical if you said, "blondes suck" then you dated a blonde. (fixed )).

depends on interpretation of that comment XD   (sorry)

 Sorry I grew up thinking that hypocracy was doing something that contradicted things you said. . .not simply saying things that contradict how you feel, but that's my understanding of the term.

[chengthao]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

chengthao wrote...

why is war ok but sex bad? why can't both be ok or both be bad?

I don't think anyone in this thread is saying "sex is bad." It's more "awkward depictions of sex are awkward."

no one on these forums maybe but society in general "looks down" on sexuality but is "ok" with violence

its ok to watch 20 ppl get blown up, as long as there's no "nudity" in it

[joriandrake]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Sparatus wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...
and is doing so in a particulary awkward manner.

One of the biggest failings of Mass Effect is just how hard they try to make it sexy. And how it just makes the game weird. Like one of the spoiler squadmates, or Miranda's ass shots, or the entire asari species. So much of that stuff is unneccessary and just detracts from the game and story.

Haha, true. The spoiler squaddie in particular, because her face modeling landed right in the uncanny valley.

the asari species is good at is it, and every sci-fi needs atleast one sexy blue (or green) species, right? =P

but seriously, the whole species concept is that they look atractive to all other species which is a form of survivability, the addition of the method of their pregnancy just adds to it, it is well done

[joriandrake]

fropas wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

fropas wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

... What?

That has nothing to do with what I said.

It would be a contradiction if you said you like blondes, then turn around and said blondes suck.

(It would be hypocritical if you said, "blondes suck" then you dated a blonde. (fixed )).

depends on interpretation of that comment XD   (sorry)

 Sorry I grew up thinking that hypocracy was doing something that contradicted things you said. . .not simply saying things that contradict how you feel, but that's my understanding of the term.

what I meant was what if the guy who said that, meant it literaly