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[AkiKishi]

Hyrist wrote...

Ok, you call me a child, then say "I WAS RIGHT" before the game is releaced. Good logic there, consitering the reviews that are out and are in progress are already leaps more positive than DA2.

The reviews are about the same. DA2 had a lot of positive reviews until the embargo was lifted. There is a more positive vibe about the game though. Where as DA had numberous flaws, this seems to have less and some of those coming down opinion.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Kanmuru wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

destroying the SR 1 and SR 2 in the same franchise speaks of stupid and contrived garbage

That and destroying the Mass Relays ensure there's no post-end travels for Shepard.

FTL

What I said, still applies for Shepard, since he survives only in 1 ending and what would his new spaceship be?

The normandy is not the only ship with FTL -.-

True, but it is Shepard's ship. The one with all this interior for the party etc.

So even then it seems there's no "hope for an expansion/DLC, because the Normandy is effectively cut off from him.
And also since he survives in just 1 ending...

[Nigawatts]

MythicLegands wrote...

Uh because there DNA is completely different than then the other species(a simple fruit salad can cause them to choke and die) and if the humans colonized the world, means that the planet was not dextro based. And beside why would you want to live on a planet of inbreds.

They would not choke and die on a freaking fruit salad. At worse they would have an allergic reaction, but most likely the food will simply pass through their system without being absorbed or properly digested.

[Elite Midget]

Hyrist wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...


Says the child.

I was right about Bioware ruining ME3, I didn't want to be right but I have a  habit or putting 2 and 2 together. Also, a waste of time. Why bother trying to tell Bioware why they messed up if they have been repeating the same mistakes for a while now and have refused to listen to any and all fan feedback? Furthermore, no one will care what you say is good or bad because if the leaks are true and fans wise up than this will end up like DAII. You will be in the severe minority and will be ignored and your words blocked out from all the noise many others will be making.

Ok, you call me a child, then say "I WAS RIGHT" before the game is releaced. Good logic there, consitering the reviews that are out and are in progress are already leaps more positive than DA2.

But if you're calling giving coherant feedback a waste of your time, then what is your reson for being here, other than to be disruptive to a community that already is ruined by such activties?

You think the noize you beleive you'll be producing on this game (a laughable assumption as DA 2 had far more wrong with the game than simply a bad ending) means anything. The only fair assumption here is that you're attempts are vindictive and harmful to the community and Bioware as a  whole, because they produced a product you, personally, are not satasfied with. 

I'd hate to say it, but DA II was still comercially sucessful. Granted, not as sucessful as it's predecessor, and I do dislike that game, however. Those who did enjoy it, often do not deal with the game forums. Making you, actually, the common element known as "The Vocal Minority." The only thing that truely makes me a lesser minority than you, is that I'm massocistic enough to not be shoved off by bitter, spiteful people who find nothing better to do with their lives than to try to generate misery because they themselves are unsatasfied.

Your message here is "It's broke, but you won't fix it anyways, so my only reason for being here is to assume I know the tastes of everyone around me and say 'don't buy it, it's terrible!' Without even playing it."

Remember the Fiasco of Mass Effect 1? When players hated severely on a writer's review blog when she judged something she did not go in and experience personally? (The sex scene.) What you are doing is the same.

I was right, child. It's okay you couldn't foretell how ME3 would end up from the data gathered between ME2 and leading up to this day. Not many can and I was considered a heathen for preparing everyone for the worst. Yet I ended up being right. Perhaps you should pay attention to me next time when I make such bold claims backed by facts and legit info with detailed reasonings for my conclusion. You might learn something, maybe.

From your post it's easy to tell you're very angry and can't take that you were wrong and are still wrong. It's fine, I've dealt with your kind. I'll let you throw your tantrum, eventually you'll calm down and realize where you err'd.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 03 mars 2012 - 03:23 .

[Elite Midget]

ghostbusters101 wrote...

They said some players were not going to like the ending. Now we know why. I'm pretty sure that players wouldn't have objected as much if the crew died in battle. This ending was designed to mess with the players head. BW seems to be into tragedies. It will be my least favorite of the three. ME 2 at least had no one left behind which was a fun award. ME 3 seems to be about tragic decisions.
I don’t buy it is about being real. Halo Reach had all your squad die, but they did in battle. I don’t see how Tali or Garrus can survive.

False, one of the Squad Members doesn't die in Halo: Reach.

[Cobra's_back]

AdrynBliss wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

Uh because there DNA is completely different than then the other species(a simple fruit salad can cause them to choke and die)

Yeah, no. This is one if the things Mass Effect blows way out of proportion. Their bodies are simply unable to metabolise levo chirality foods. They wouldn't die, they'd just receive no nourishment.

Dealing with the rules of our own real universe this is true but within the setting it is specifically stated in the codex that best case senerio is no nourishment, more likely is anapholactic shock.
Of course this is basicly just semantics as death is the result either way.

There is also no cornocopia tech in the setting, no matter convertors, they cannot create food ala star trek as evidenced by the use of military rations aboard ship, shep needing to go get ingrediants and some dialouge in ME2 which specifically states there is no cornocopia tech.
Combine that with the fact that the odds of landing on a planet with flora suitable for human consumption is astronomical and the idea of a colony suviving, more than how ever long the military rations hold out, is completely implausible.

Unfortunatly, any way you cut it, this ending suggests there was no attention to the level of detail that is through out all other aspects of mass effect and comes off as a terribly lazy ending.
They crash landed on a deserted planet and even though theres no way they could possibly do so they lived happily ever after the end :/

This is why ME 3 will be my least favorite of the three.  

[Kanmuru]

ghostbusters101 wrote...

They said some players were not going to like the ending. Now we know why. I'm pretty sure that players wouldn't have objected as much if the crew died in battle. This ending was designed to mess with the players head. BW seems to be into tragedies. It will be my least favorite of the three. ME 2 at least had no one left behind which was a fun award. ME 3 seems to be about tragic decisions.
I don’t buy it is about being real. Halo Reach had all your squad die, but they did in battle. I don’t see how Tali or Garrus can survive.

Oh they would, people here complain about EVERYTHING. I would go crazy if i had to develop games to these people and listen to what they have to say...

[Hyrist]

Ok, it's obvious that you're trolling.

I actually had a better idea of how the plot would end than most people, given the 'shock' everyone seems to have had when the ending leaked.

There's no 'facts' that support you, at all, because there's no figures to substantiate your claims. Thus far, the numbers are on my side with collector's editions and pre-orders hitting far higher than DA2 did.

But we'll see as the sales and reviews roll out. So far, you're looking the fool - reviewers are loving the game in-spite (and in some cases, even with) the ending. But it'll be the sales figures that determine the 'success' of the game.

If I were a betting man, I'd wager ME3's sales dwarf DA2, but that's a safe bet at this point.

[Elite Midget]

Kanmuru wrote...

ghostbusters101 wrote...

They said some players were not going to like the ending. Now we know why. I'm pretty sure that players wouldn't have objected as much if the crew died in battle. This ending was designed to mess with the players head. BW seems to be into tragedies. It will be my least favorite of the three. ME 2 at least had no one left behind which was a fun award. ME 3 seems to be about tragic decisions.
I don’t buy it is about being real. Halo Reach had all your squad die, but they did in battle. I don’t see how Tali or Garrus can survive.

Oh they would, people here complain about EVERYTHING. I would go crazy if i had to develop games to these people and listen to what they have to say...

Not really. If there was a choice that lead to your crew living, dying, or stayin with Sheperd than there wouls be zero QQ on that matter. Bioware did none of those options despite knowing how fans would react after the DAII fiasco.

[Elite Midget]

Hyrist wrote...

Ok, it's obvious that you're trolling.

I actually had a better idea of how the plot would end than most people, given the 'shock' everyone seems to have had when the ending leaked.

There's no 'facts' that support you, at all, because there's no figures to substantiate your claims. Thus far, the numbers are on my side with collector's editions and pre-orders hitting far higher than DA2 did.

But we'll see as the sales and reviews roll out. So far, you're looking the fool - reviewers are loving the game in-spite (and in some cases, even with) the ending. But it'll be the sales figures that determine the 'success' of the game.

If I were a betting man, I'd wager ME3's sales dwarf DA2, but that's a safe bet at this point.

Pulling the "You must be trolling" card when you are the one at fault. Whatever, like I said I've dealt with your kind before. You will be forgotten and when the fans wise up BSN will light up brighter than when DAII was revealed for the farce that it was.

It doesn't matter really. I was right when I wanted Bioware to prove me wrong. Bioware chose to take my gathered info and take it up to the 11 in the complete opposite direction that would have appeased fans and ended the trilogy on an epic note.

There's no question the initial sales will be high, the leaks aren't well known to the many players that have bought in to the lies fed to them and hyped up for over a year. It's after they learn the truth that Blizzard will face a reckoning like no other.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 03 mars 2012 - 03:35 .

[Sashimi_taco]

Nigawatts wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

Uh because there DNA is completely different than then the other species(a simple fruit salad can cause them to choke and die) and if the humans colonized the world, means that the planet was not dextro based. And beside why would you want to live on a planet of inbreds.

They would not choke and die on a freaking fruit salad. At worse they would have an allergic reaction, but most likely the food will simply pass through their system without being absorbed or properly digested.

Tali and garrus cannot eat non dextro food according to lore. If they eat it, it is similar to how some humand are allergic to peanuts. They will die because their body has no idea how to process it. It doesn't make sense in our science world, but in the world of mass effect that is the rule. 

[Kanmuru]

lol at people predicting bad sales for ME3, i bet some of them will go running to metacritic and start giving 0s to the game and attacking the developers like the DA "fans" did (and the SWTOR "fans" did).

[Hyrist]

Kanmuru wrote...

Oh they would, people here complain about EVERYTHING. I would go crazy if i had to develop games to these people and listen to what they have to say...

There should be a game produced purely to satire the 'fans' at this point. Not Bioware or any particular game developer making it. Heck, it would be fun if it was underground.

But something that really accentuates the utter immaturity and volitile nature of the fans.

And the protagonist should be the Villian.

I can imagine the epic moral choices already. 

- Kill the Troll
- Kill the Troll with impunity.
- Kill the Troll with farm equipment.

[Ananka]

I wonder if this will turn out the same way it did with Jacob's dad.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Annaka wrote...

I wonder if this will turn out the same way it did with Jacob's dad.

Only if Shepard finds them and brings Jacob along just to use the same lines on Joker.

"Ten years...to live out a JUVENILE FANTASY?!?!"

[Cobra's_back]

Elite Midget wrote...

ghostbusters101 wrote...

They said some players were not going to like the ending. Now we know why. I'm pretty sure that players wouldn't have objected as much if the crew died in battle. This ending was designed to mess with the players head. BW seems to be into tragedies. It will be my least favorite of the three. ME 2 at least had no one left behind which was a fun award. ME 3 seems to be about tragic decisions.
I don’t buy it is about being real. Halo Reach had all your squad die, but they did in battle. I don’t see how Tali or Garrus can survive.

False, one of the Squad Members doesn't die in Halo: Reach.

Correct John didn't die. My point is that members died in battle. Tali and Garrus will die a slow senseless death for the sake of tragic ending. 

I don't have ME3 yet. I'll wait for my order to come in. I would love it if there were other possible ending.

[Elite Midget]

Now you're just throwing a fit, Hyst. I believe you need to take a break from these forums before you say things that may get you in trouble.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 03 mars 2012 - 03:43 .

[Elite Midget]

ghostbusters101 wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

ghostbusters101 wrote...

They said some players were not going to like the ending. Now we know why. I'm pretty sure that players wouldn't have objected as much if the crew died in battle. This ending was designed to mess with the players head. BW seems to be into tragedies. It will be my least favorite of the three. ME 2 at least had no one left behind which was a fun award. ME 3 seems to be about tragic decisions.
I don’t buy it is about being real. Halo Reach had all your squad die, but they did in battle. I don’t see how Tali or Garrus can survive.

False, one of the Squad Members doesn't die in Halo: Reach.

Correct John didn't die. My point is that members died in battle. Tali and Garrus will die a slow senseless death for the sake of tragic ending. 

I don't have ME3 yet. I'll wait for my order to come in. I would love it if there were other possible ending.

If the leaks are true than that is correct. Bioware didn't think their endings out all that well, feels like they rushed that last bit out.

[Cobra's_back]

Elite Midget wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

ghostbusters101 wrote...

They said some players were not going to like the ending. Now we know why. I'm pretty sure that players wouldn't have objected as much if the crew died in battle. This ending was designed to mess with the players head. BW seems to be into tragedies. It will be my least favorite of the three. ME 2 at least had no one left behind which was a fun award. ME 3 seems to be about tragic decisions.
I don’t buy it is about being real. Halo Reach had all your squad die, but they did in battle. I don’t see how Tali or Garrus can survive.

Oh they would, people here complain about EVERYTHING. I would go crazy if i had to develop games to these people and listen to what they have to say...

Not really. If there was a choice that lead to your crew living, dying, or stayin with Sheperd than there wouls be zero QQ on that matter. Bioware did none of those options despite knowing how fans would react after the DAII fiasco.

I can not agree with this. ME 2 was such a hit. Everyone I knew LOVED it. I played it six times trying to get different endings.

[Kanmuru]

ghostbusters101 wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

ghostbusters101 wrote...

They said some players were not going to like the ending. Now we know why. I'm pretty sure that players wouldn't have objected as much if the crew died in battle. This ending was designed to mess with the players head. BW seems to be into tragedies. It will be my least favorite of the three. ME 2 at least had no one left behind which was a fun award. ME 3 seems to be about tragic decisions.
I don’t buy it is about being real. Halo Reach had all your squad die, but they did in battle. I don’t see how Tali or Garrus can survive.

Oh they would, people here complain about EVERYTHING. I would go crazy if i had to develop games to these people and listen to what they have to say...

Not really. If there was a choice that lead to your crew living, dying, or stayin with Sheperd than there wouls be zero QQ on that matter. Bioware did none of those options despite knowing how fans would react after the DAII fiasco.

I can not agree with this. ME 2 was such a hit. Everyone I knew LOVED it. I played it six times trying to get different endings.

Diferent endings? There are just 2 endings to ME2. ME3 has 3 diferent endings, srsly are we talking about the same game here?

[Cobra's_back]

Kanmuru wrote...

ghostbusters101 wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

ghostbusters101 wrote...

They said some players were not going to like the ending. Now we know why. I'm pretty sure that players wouldn't have objected as much if the crew died in battle. This ending was designed to mess with the players head. BW seems to be into tragedies. It will be my least favorite of the three. ME 2 at least had no one left behind which was a fun award. ME 3 seems to be about tragic decisions.
I don’t buy it is about being real. Halo Reach had all your squad die, but they did in battle. I don’t see how Tali or Garrus can survive.

Oh they would, people here complain about EVERYTHING. I would go crazy if i had to develop games to these people and listen to what they have to say...

Not really. If there was a choice that lead to your crew living, dying, or stayin with Sheperd than there wouls be zero QQ on that matter. Bioware did none of those options despite knowing how fans would react after the DAII fiasco.

I can not agree with this. ME 2 was such a hit. Everyone I knew LOVED it. I played it six times trying to get different endings.

Diferent endings? There are just 2 endings to ME2. ME3 has 3 diferent endings, srsly are we talking about the same game here?

Please let me clarify what I mean. The decision matrix for no one left behind had several possible outcomes for who lived or died. For me that really made it fun. Here there are three decisions that still leave the crew stranded. I don’t have my copy yet, but what I’m hearing in the post plays like a Roman or Greek tragedy. Sadly it makes me think of the Dead God portion of the game Reaper IFF in ME 2. They called it a dead god. In ME 3,  Shepard could be a god, destroy the gods or make everyone slaves to the gods, but all three lead to the same ship being stranded. I don’t have the game yet. Hopefully it is not that boring. Again, ME2 is a tough act to follow because of the decision matrix. I’m still getting it. I just don’t think I’ll play it several times.

[Hyrist]

Elite Midget wrote...

Now you're just throwing a fit, Hyst. I believe you need to take a break from these forums before you say things that may get you in trouble.

Hyrist, thank you.

As far as me saying things that will get into trouble. That is my conern, not yours.

The funny part to me about this is how you try to elevate yourself above others. It provides oppertunity to make light of your username, as it provides amusing mental imagry, but that is just a distraction that takes away from the issue.

You're gloating before results, offering no solution to the perceived problem, just a 'get with the haters, fans'. It completely dismisses and belittles any fans that would actually enjoy the game because they beleive its benefits outweigh its flaws.

There is a severe difference between saying "I enjoy anything and everything x company throws at me." and someone who makes a personal, informed decission, fully aware of the issues they may or may not tolerate.

I disagree with the assertion that ME3 is shovelware, as you're trying to assert as fact. If we wish to get into the discussion of what actually IS shovelware or what makes a game terrible, we probably need another thread for it.

I've a personal issue with your attitude, not the cirtiques you have. Armchair critisim is a dime a dozen. And if it's not worth your time to go into an in depth discussion, then there's no real value to your cirtique. If you're right, the sales will speak for you.

Again, I cannot see how your presence here in this topic is anything more than malicious propaganda - a smear campaign against BioWare. "See, I hated Bioware and I'm justified in my hate!" is not productive to anything, and you're just effectively saying you want to see the company fold. I don't beleive the community needs that sort of attitude.

[Jackal7713]

Nigawatts wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

Uh because there DNA is completely different than then the other species(a simple fruit salad can cause them to choke and die) and if the humans colonized the world, means that the planet was not dextro based. And beside why would you want to live on a planet of inbreds.

They would not choke and die on a freaking fruit salad. At worse they would have an allergic reaction, but most likely the food will simply pass through their system without being absorbed or properly digested.

I'm sorry buddy, but your wrong. If you drink water from a stream without purifying it, it can kill you. Now thats microbes and bacteria that we know about.  Now if your stuck on a planet with no lab to test anything in your environment, your odds of survival have just been cut exponentially.

Modifié par Jackal7713, 03 mars 2012 - 05:09 .

[AgitatedLemon]

>Tali and Garrus eat the last of the ship's dextro-food
>Tali and Garrus get hungry, eventually desperate for food
>Eat local flora in desperation
>Food turns out to be poisonous to dextro-DNA organisms, Garrus and Tali die

[Hyrist]

Jackal7713 wrote...

I'm sorry buddy, but your wrong. If you drink water from a stream without purifying it, it can kill you. Now thats microbes and bacteria that we know about.  Now if your stuck on a planet with no lab to test anything in your environment, your odds of survival have just be cut exponentially.

True, but this is also over-reading into a work of fiction, which can break anything and everything including the bounds of common sense.

There is nothing to say that there isn't a long-term survival pack on the Normandy to allow Team Dextro to produce their own food and purify the drink.

The issue here is Bioware provides no in-depth epilouge - which really would have been nice here. Even something as simple as DA:O and it's expansions text-based paragraphs summeries would provide people with better closure than what we currently have, and would smooth over a lot of frayed feelings here.

There's just too little here to go on for the end of a seriese.

Modifié par Hyrist, 03 mars 2012 - 05:14 .