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[squidney2k1]

Back when I first booted up the multiplayer demo, I unlocked the Revenant in my starter kit. I also was using the Human Sentinel, so when I took that power-use heavy class out for a spin with the Revenant, I was extremely disappointed with it's unimpressive damage, horrible spread, and severe weight penalty. So I, like most players, set it on the backburner and eventually found my niche with the Mattock & Avenger.

As time when by, the Avenger and Mattock kept getting stat boosts. Level VI Avenger, Level V Mattock, Level X Avenger. Was there any need to ever stray from those 2 silky smooth, reliable Assault Rifles?

After fidling with the PC demo, a big fat YES

The problem is that the Revenant (much like the Sentinel) seems crippled from the start. It's only after the leveling that you find its true potential. Using a modded Coalesced.bin file in the PC demo, I ended up getting the Revenant all of the way up to rank VIII, and my God, is this thing good.

Revenant VII
Stability Damper V (+70% stability)
Precision Scope (+35% accuracy)
Assault Rifle Rail Amp II
Armor Piercing Rounds I


O.M.G. Now THERE'S my baby from Mass Effect 2!! Hell, it even seems better than its ME2 counterpart. The scope not only adds accuracy, but the increased ability to go full auto and land 70-75% of your shots at long range is incredible. The weight reduction makes it less punishing to choose over other guns, and the capacity and damage bonuses are putting it right back into its zone. The headshot multiplier is very generous, now that I can consistently land them at full-auto. Burst-firing is hardly necessary now. And with AP ammo and a Rail Amp, I'm ripping through Guardians by the droves, and chewing through a full-health/full-shields Centurian in half a clip or less.


TL:DR/Conclusion: The Revenant doesn't suck. It's just that when you compare a Revenant I/II to an Avenger X that most people already have, it's outclassed. But once you start to even out the ranks, it's clearly a much, much better gun that will satisfy the nay-sayers.

Modifié par squidney2k1, 03 mars 2012 - 08:47 .

[himegoto]

Im sure. but who could unlock those ranks anyway and its still a demo

[az350z]

IMO, this is what it should be.

I-want-this-right-now whiners can say what they want, having items like Revenant X far out of reach is a great thing. Keeps things fresh and gives you a ton of room for acquiring better goods, whether you agree or not.

Makes everything that much more unique.

Modifié par az350z, 03 mars 2012 - 08:53 .

[GroverA 125]

If you say so. I will hold my judgement until after I can compare it at high levels. Mind you, all but the single-shot rare weapons are rather weak (look at the Hornet, Locust and Revenant) to begin with, so it could be that they recieve worthy power at the higher levels.

[TheKillerAngel]

A revenant X on Silver with max stability and accuracy mods is quite decent, but on Gold it is a big pew-pewing paperweight. I have tried using it on these respescive difficulties with both a soldier and Turian sentinel. It just does not cut it on Gold.

Modifié par TheKillerAngel, 03 mars 2012 - 09:04 .

[setrus86]

Extra ammo per heat sink (108 shots) and stability mod to my revenant Mark 3 works just fine at medium to short ranges, at least on silver, in fact it's my assault rifle of choice. *shrugs*

[Legion64]

When has it? I used it a lot in ME2 and in the demo and it packs a punch and fire rate. All you have to do is have good control of it.

[sy7ar]

hmm, thanks for the info, I just unlock a VII or VIII rev and felt like meh, now I have to try it out. And it seems they increased the chance to unlock gold items for the last few days before launch, I can almost always get gold or silver items for every purchase.

[marshalleck]

it's still too heavy for whatever damage it's doing, also I'm not sure that weapons should be balanced around use of consumables

Modifié par marshalleck, 03 mars 2012 - 09:37 .

[Ravenmyste]

himegoto wrote...

Im sure. but who could unlock those ranks anyway and its still a demo

you can actually   in the demo i have iii atm and since verything goes up to x you probably could go up to x on the revenant, if you add the  stabilizer v and the  best scope you will see that  the gun is really great! my salarain inflitraor uses it when there in tight packed area

[UnbornLeviathan]

At short range I'd still rather heavy melee then mess around with a gun that has bullet diarrhea.

[Darkslayer557]

Never unlocked one myself and never notice anyone else using it.

[mybudgee]

I was kind of on the fence about it in ME2. Now that I have upgraded it, its ok. I do better with the Mattock, though...

Modifié par mybudgee, 03 mars 2012 - 10:10 .

[marshalleck]

mybudgee wrote...

I was kind of on the fence about it in ME2. Now that I have upgraded it, its ok. Better with the Mattock, though...

Mattock is also bad. Use Avenger if you absolutely must use AR

Modifié par marshalleck, 03 mars 2012 - 10:11 .

[lyleoffmyspace]

marshalleck wrote...

mybudgee wrote...

I was kind of on the fence about it in ME2. Now that I have upgraded it, its ok. Better with the Mattock, though...

Mattock is also bad. Use Avenger if you absolutely must use AR

I love the Avenger. It's lightweight so allows for good cooldown speed, and when upgraded it does decent damage.

Spray firing at groups of Cerberus soldiers with the Revenant is funny though, they get so staggered they can't attack and you take 3 down in one clip, it's great.

[marshalleck]

The Avenger is pretty bad on Gold though, I'm hoping the mods and other guns will even things out in retail, otherwise I'd say ARs need a slight buff

[SomebodysSon]

Personally, I'm not a fan, especially for Silver and Gold, but it IS a hell of a lot of fun to use on Bronze.

[HolyAvenger]

marshalleck wrote...

mybudgee wrote...

I was kind of on the fence about it in ME2. Now that I have upgraded it, its ok. Better with the Mattock, though...

Mattock is also bad. Use Avenger if you absolutely must use AR

Ehh this a matter of preference...accuracy or RoF. I prefer my Mattock X to just about anything but a Carnifex (or a Widow for my snipers). 

[lurker541]

Revenant sucks against Cerberus, but just wait till a horde of husks is rushing towards you!

[Seraphithan]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Ehh this a matter of preference...accuracy or RoF. I prefer my Mattock X to just about anything but a Carnifex (or a Widow for my snipers). 

Avenger has both. Put a scope on it and even at medium distances and going full auto its spread will be only as big as a troopers head.

[HolyAvenger]

Seraphithan wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Ehh this a matter of preference...accuracy or RoF. I prefer my Mattock X to just about anything but a Carnifex (or a Widow for my snipers). 

Avenger has both. Put a scope on it and even at medium distances and going full auto its spread will be only as big as a troopers head.

Scoping annoys me no end as I get into the habit of doing it at even short ranges. 

[TehJumpingJawa]

Rev X (with lvl5 mods) on a Turian Soldier with marksmanship (spec'ed for rate of fire+50%, accuracy+45%), and Turian Veteran(spec'ed for damage+30%, stability+55%) plus ammo 3 + AR rail amp 3.

It's noisey and it's fun but it's still completely useless on gold.

Incidentally the Turian soldier is just as completely useless as the other soldier characters.
Concussive shot is of moderate use (though only if you sacrifice firepower to maintain +200% regen).
Proximity mine on the other hand is laughably bad because of it's ridiculous cooldown time.

If it's cooldown was much shorter, or seperate from marksmanship there would be some kind of synergy there. (pop a prox. to debuff the enemy with damage vulnerability, and then pop marksmanship to gun them down).
However as it stands it's a pointless ability.

Modifié par TehJumpingJawa, 03 mars 2012 - 12:18 .

[Frozen Mind]

Good upgrades can be easily gained on this weekend... Just before turning off multiplayer servers.

Modifié par Frozen Mind, 03 mars 2012 - 12:41 .

[Hartmann262]

Since a lot of stuff is getting buffs, the Revenant will probably be getting some love.

There's been enough complaining about it.