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[Aesieru]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Jackal7713 wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

wiggles89 wrote...

Aesieru wrote...
According to the majority opinion (and I still can't find anyone not in this forum that does not like DA2) yes they want the new DA3. Hell go to Youtube and anything on DA2 will probably be filled with I CANT WAIT FOR THE THIRD.

You don't know what you're talking about, do you?

this is true check most DA2 videos, they are mostly positive...

 

That game is considered even more of a failure by normal people than it is on the BSN.

Go check some other videos.

Well, here's a video of an awards show where Dragon Age 2 wins awards :innocent:

Try something where the average person might go, not fans.

Can't you prove your own argument?  Right now the score is 2/0

I pointed out DA videos and someone agreed with me, Youtube comments are all pretty much the same, even Metacritic when ignoring the 4chan rage has a lot of positive comments.

So in other words you're saying that if you ignore the massive criticism from basically everyone everywhere, Dragon Age 2 is an acclaimed game?

No, if you look at the sales figures and total the online ones as well, you'll see that it did well, if you look at the general reception about it, a lot of people liked it, perhaps that's the new BioWare market.

Anyway...

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

Aesieru wrote...

No, if you look at the sales figures and total the online ones as well, you'll see that it did well, if you look at the general reception about it, a lot of people liked it, perhaps that's the new BioWare market.

Anyway...

You mean these sales figures?



See the red bars? That's not what good word-of-mouth looks like.

[adneate]

Aesieru wrote...
Because they were making a REAPER.

And what were they going to do with it? The same thing they tried and failed to do in ME1? They needed millions more humans to finish the thing and the Collectors had about one ship, they going to storm Earth with it? Even if they did finish it are the Reapers that unimaginative that when their plan fails they just do that exact same thing again hoping the same plan will produce a different result?

None of it makes any sense.

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

Parmida wrote...

"Why bioware,why did you give us an unfinished,rushed game ?"(ofcourse with an uncivil tone)
I've seen this question on other forums too lately ....
I don't know what these people expect from a "finished" game.

Final draft quality writing and level design?

[Eclipse_9990]

First question?

BIOWARE! Y U NO LET ME BE HAPPY?!!

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

No, if you look at the sales figures and total the online ones as well, you'll see that it did well, if you look at the general reception about it, a lot of people liked it, perhaps that's the new BioWare market.

Anyway...

You mean these sales figures?



See the red bars? That's not what good word-of-mouth looks like.

They're going to have to work so hard to sell DA3.

[Aesieru]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

No, if you look at the sales figures and total the online ones as well, you'll see that it did well, if you look at the general reception about it, a lot of people liked it, perhaps that's the new BioWare market.

Anyway...

You mean these sales figures?



See the red bars? That's not what good word-of-mouth looks like.

You're missing PC and Online. Then you have to total the sales and compare to DA 1.

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

Aesieru wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

No, if you look at the sales figures and total the online ones as well, you'll see that it did well, if you look at the general reception about it, a lot of people liked it, perhaps that's the new BioWare market.

Anyway...

You mean these sales figures?

[abandon ship!]

See the red bars? That's not what good word-of-mouth looks like.

You're missing PC and Online. Then you have to total the sales and compare to DA 1.

Yeah, PC gamers loved Dragon Age 2 

[jellobell]

You can't really compare Mass Effect 3's "ending" to DA2's because

a) DA2's ending, while bad, isn't on the same level as M3's if only because of the horrific fate of the Normandy's crew.
DA2 prepared the players for an ending that they wouldn't have much choice in. It was thematically consistent, unlike the ending of ME3.
c) DA2 was one game while ME3 is the end of a trilogy that players have loved for over five years. This ending doesn't just ruin ME3, it ruins every Mass Effect game. What's the point of stopping Saren or saving your whole crew during the S.M? Your crew's f*cked no matter what you do.

[Aesieru]

adneate wrote...

Aesieru wrote...
Because they were making a REAPER.

And what were they going to do with it? The same thing they tried and failed to do in ME1? They needed millions more humans to finish the thing and the Collectors had about one ship, they going to storm Earth with it? Even if they did finish it are the Reapers that unimaginative that when their plan fails they just do that exact same thing again hoping the same plan will produce a different result?

None of it makes any sense.

They were making a Reaper just like they did with all the other races the Reapers harvested, preserving the race in the genetic nation that each Reaper is. That Reaper would probably give the Collectors an edge and help the other Reapers come back sooner.

[Aesieru]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

No, if you look at the sales figures and total the online ones as well, you'll see that it did well, if you look at the general reception about it, a lot of people liked it, perhaps that's the new BioWare market.

Anyway...

You mean these sales figures?

[abandon ship!]

See the red bars? That's not what good word-of-mouth looks like.

You're missing PC and Online. Then you have to total the sales and compare to DA 1.

Yeah, PC gamers loved Dragon Age 2 

Sale charts, go get them.

Don't forget the online ones too.

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

Aesieru wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

No, if you look at the sales figures and total the online ones as well, you'll see that it did well, if you look at the general reception about it, a lot of people liked it, perhaps that's the new BioWare market.

Anyway...

You mean these sales figures?

[abandon ship!]

See the red bars? That's not what good word-of-mouth looks like.

You're missing PC and Online. Then you have to total the sales and compare to DA 1.

Yeah, PC gamers loved Dragon Age 2 

Sale charts, go get them.

Don't forget the online ones too.

What is this, a fetch quest? Gah... Dragon Age 2... Act 1... flashbacks... the horror...

[Aesieru]

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

No, if you look at the sales figures and total the online ones as well, you'll see that it did well, if you look at the general reception about it, a lot of people liked it, perhaps that's the new BioWare market.

Anyway...

You mean these sales figures?

[abandon ship!]

See the red bars? That's not what good word-of-mouth looks like.

You're missing PC and Online. Then you have to total the sales and compare to DA 1.

Yeah, PC gamers loved Dragon Age 2 

Sale charts, go get them.

Don't forget the online ones too.

What is this, a fetch quest? Gah... Dragon Age 2... Act 1... flashbacks... the horror...

DA 1 also had some fetching just to be fair.

[adneate]

Aesieru wrote...

That Reaper would probably give the Collectors an edge and help the other Reapers come back sooner.

How? Unless they are stupid enough to repeat the Sovreign plan and in Arrival they can just fly to the galaxy anyway using a relay, so they don't need the Citadel one anyway. The Human Reaper is utterly inconsequential to all their plans and the destruction of the Collectors is as equally inconsequential to the Reapers. It's like blowing up a small ammo dump in Germany and claiming to have broken the back of the Third Reich, everything you "accomplish" in ME2 is just stuff the Reapers can easily replace and will barely even notice.

[Aesieru]

adneate wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

That Reaper would probably give the Collectors an edge and help the other Reapers come back sooner.

How? Unless they are stupid enough to repeat the Sovreign plan and in Arrival they can just fly to the galaxy anyway using a relay, so they don't need the Citadel one anyway. The Human Reaper is utterly inconsequential to all their plans and the destruction of the Collectors is as equally inconsequential to the Reapers. It's like blowing up a small ammo dump in Germany and claiming to have broken the back of the Third Reich, everything you "accomplish" in ME2 is just stuff the Reapers can easily replace and will barely even notice.

It shows how they're making new reapers, another reaper added to the fleet of reapers coming is going to be trouble, and if that reaper starts terrorizing people before the Reaper fleet gets there, it would be even more trouble. There's a lot of things that adding a foreward observer could do.

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Everything done in ME2 was to prevent all the colonies from being destroyed and the Collectors being left unchecked and able to attack wherever they like, they also had a very powerful ship.

Modifié par Aesieru, 03 mars 2012 - 08:00 .

[adneate]

Aesieru wrote...

It shows how they're making new reapers, another reaper added to the fleet of reapers coming is going to be trouble, and if that reaper starts terrorizing people before the Reaper fleet gets there, it would be even more trouble. There's a lot of things that adding a foreward observer could do.

Or alert the entire galaxy that Soverign wasn't some fluke and the Reapers are real thus making everyone mobilze for full scale war. Observers don't go make trouble and terrorize people since that shows the enemy force your hand and that you're prepping for an attack.

The Human Reaper is pointless and ME2's main plot is just a distraction meant to fill space in the Trilogy and give Shepard something to do.

[MrAtomica]

I plan to answer every thread about getting the "happy" ending with this:

1. You have to have played both ME1 and ME2 with the same Shepard, have done every last possible piece of content, and have gotten your final play time to exactly 36:20:12

2. You must kill Kai Leng with only a sharpened pencil, then acquire his super secret box of cereal.

3. You need to have played through ME3 once, and be on a NG+.

4. You must be MShep, FShep cannot win - not ever. (Careful not to play both previous games after reading #1, and before playing #4)

5. You must successfully beat Harbinger in a dance off. Careful, he has some funky fresh tricks up his sleeve! Edit: Urdnot Grim has reminded me that it is necessary to first learn the ultra cool dance move to beat Harbinger from the techno Turian.

6. You need to have gotten Kelly to watch your fish for you in ME2, then get them back from her.

7. The difficulty must be set to Nightmare mode for the entire game. Nightmare mode comes after Insanity, and consists of fighting nothing but elite units for the entire game, with no shields and 1 thermal clip per level. Better work on your right hook, you sorry weakling.

8. You must kill EDI before the ending begins. If this is too brutal for some of you, then Joker must die instead (he was never all that great a helmsman anyways). No exceptions. If you still can't stomach it, then you obviously don't deserve a happy ending.

9. Shepard must solve the question, "What is the meaning of life?" If you fail to achieve this level of philosophical wisdom, Shepard will become hopelessly entangled in a debate with himself, and consequently forget to save the galaxy.

10. You must engage in Mortal Kombat with the Reapers. If you are caught using a weapon, you will be instantly vaporized by Raiden. You must perform a fatality on the Guardian, as well.

11. Lastly, any logical or otherwise pertinent questions as to how to accomplish all of these points will be ignored. You want the best ending, so you get to figure it out.

If anyone legitmately believes all of the crap I just spouted, it'll make my day.

Modifié par MrAtomica, 03 mars 2012 - 08:22 .

[Aesieru]

adneate wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

It shows how they're making new reapers, another reaper added to the fleet of reapers coming is going to be trouble, and if that reaper starts terrorizing people before the Reaper fleet gets there, it would be even more trouble. There's a lot of things that adding a foreward observer could do.

Or alert the entire galaxy that Soverign wasn't some fluke and the Reapers are real thus making everyone mobilze for full scale war. Observers don't go make trouble and terrorize people since that shows the enemy force your hand and that you're prepping for an attack.

The Human Reaper is pointless and ME2's main plot is just a distraction meant to fill space in the Trilogy and give Shepard something to do.

 Not true, the Reapers always make new Reapers Guardian kind of illustrates that.

I can't discuss this with you because you're far too stuck in your way of thought, so instead of arguing I will encourage you to play the game instead and then decide.

[Relinquished2]

Elite Midget wrote...

After ME3 hits.

Me? I bet it will be...

"So... How do I get the Good Ending?"

Contents - 

I tried everything but in all my endings Sheperd keeps dying and my Squad Members are sucked into a black hole or something! I really just want my Sheperd to live and be with -Insert Love Interest Name-! So how do I get that ending?

"BIOWARE, Y MY GAME NO have full content? Y I NEED to pay DLC to get full game!?"

[MrAtomica]

Urdnot Grim wrote...

MrAtomica wrote...

I plan to answer every thread about getting the "happy" ending with this:

1. You have to have played both ME1 and ME2 with the same Shepard, have done every last possible piece of content, and have gotten your final play time to exactly 36:20:12

2. You must kill Kai Leng with only a sharpened pencil, then acquire his super secret box of cereal.

3. You need to have played through ME3 once, and be on a NG+.

4. You must be MShep, FShep cannot win - not ever. (Careful not to play both previous games after reading #1, and before playing #4)

5. You must successfully beat Harbinger in a dance off. Careful, he has some funky fresh tricks up his sleeve!

6. You need to have gotten Kelly to watch your fish for you in ME2, then get them back from her.

7. The difficulty be set to Nightmare mode for the entire game. Nightmare mode comes after Insanity, and consists of fighting nothing but elite units for the entire game, with no shields and 1 thermal clip per level. Better work on your right hook, you sorry weakling.

8. You must kill EDI before the ending begins. If this is too brutal for some of you, then Joker must die instead (he was never all that great a helmsman anyways). No exceptions. If you still can't stomach it, then you obviously don't deserve a happy ending.

9. Shepard must solve the question, "What is the meaning of life?" If you fail to achieve this level of philosophical wisdom, Shepard will become hopelessly entangled in a debate with himself, and consequently forget to save the galaxy.

10. You must engage in Mortal Kombat with the Reapers. If you are caught using a weapon, you will be instantly vaporized by Raiden. You must perform a fatality on the Guardian, as well.

11. Lastly, any logical or otherwise pertinent questions as to how to accomplish all of these points will be ignored. You want the best ending, so you get to figure it out.

If anyone legitmately believes all of the crap I just spouted, it'll make my day.

You also have to  complete a quest with the Techo Turian in order to learn the necessary dance moves to beat Sovereign.

Oh snap I forgot one! Good save, Grim.

[Sashimi_taco]

Aesieru wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

No, if you look at the sales figures and total the online ones as well, you'll see that it did well, if you look at the general reception about it, a lot of people liked it, perhaps that's the new BioWare market.

Anyway...

You mean these sales figures?



See the red bars? That's not what good word-of-mouth looks like.

You're missing PC and Online. Then you have to total the sales and compare to DA 1.

First, that chart shows total sales for DA:O and DA2 for ONLY consoles. The PC sales are not included in the DA;O sales, so this chart is accurate.

Second, PC sales for DA2 were also really bad. It didn't even make the top 5 best selling games on amazon for that quarter. 

http://greywardens.c...ly-did-it-sell/

The pc stats for this are just so minimal. .29 million is just not nearly enough to make up for the massive drop in console sales. 

Modifié par Sashimi_taco, 03 mars 2012 - 08:24 .

[Aesieru]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

No, if you look at the sales figures and total the online ones as well, you'll see that it did well, if you look at the general reception about it, a lot of people liked it, perhaps that's the new BioWare market.

Anyway...

You mean these sales figures?



See the red bars? That's not what good word-of-mouth looks like.

You're missing PC and Online. Then you have to total the sales and compare to DA 1.

First, that chart shows total sales for DA:O and DA2 for ONLY consoles. The PC sales are not included in the DA;O sales, so this chart is accurate.

Second, PC sales for DA2 were also really bad. It didn't even make the top 5 best selling games on amazon for that quarter. 

http://greywardens.c...ly-did-it-sell/

The pc stats for this are just so minimal. .29 million is just not nearly enough to make up for the massive drop in console sales. 

DA-1 was originally a PC game.

The console sales really don't make much sense and most people hated the console versions for DA1 in the first place.

Without an accurate total sales after 8 or so weeks to compare of all versions for DA 1 and DA 2, we can not say which is better.