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[kongenial]

Edit: Sorry for doublepost!!!

Modifié par kongenial, 03 mars 2012 - 07:13 .

[DXLelouch15]

look im Christian and i dont mind you think God gives a damn about what Cerberus says THEY DONT EXIST their pixels

[PapVogel-Fessa]

Sacae wrote...

PapVogel-Fessa wrote...

Sacae wrote...

I get a bullet in me, I'll be swearing like a sailor.

Censoring real reactions to getting deathly hurt seems kiddish. It would be unreal, unhumanlike, if they said something less offensive.

I'll love to see a real person get a bullet in them and say "Gosh Darn IT!!!" It ain't going to happen.

Actually, in afghanistan, one of my colleagues had an IED explode about 6 feet from him, he caught some shrapnel. What he shouted was:

"A- OK
 B- OK
 C- My leg hurts, gimme some dope!"

And thats about it We had a laugh about it and still tease him with it

That's pretty funny. Cool story. Hope he's alright though.

I should say 'most' people. Heck I swear when I broke my arm, even if I just bang my toe into something.

Though, I guess I can't account for most. So - I would.

I forgot my point now.....

Oh yea, I still say it would be a tad unrealitisic. But, not true for everyone.

You're right, all the others I treated as a medic were cussing quite a bit, at least untill they got some morphine . 

On a sidenote, he's fine now, otherwise we wouldn't be teasing him with it .

[Dr. Jacko]

byne wrote...
I dont see whats so offensive about saying god dammit.

I'm not sure if you're trolling or just way too protective of god, who, if you'll remember, is omnipotent, and as such, can fight his own battles.

I keep telling people at church this. I mean, I don't say it, and I prefer other people not to simply as a matter of respect for others, but it's no big deal. I'm sure the Big Guy's heard it all before.

[byne]

Davidicus wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

Davidicus wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

Guys its a completely understandable concern, even if it doesnt matter to some of us.

Of course, but people like the OP (and some minorities) need to realize that words only have the power you give to them. The OP sees the word as offensive, for his own reasons, but that does not mean the game should be catered to his sensibilities. A bit of minor swearing maintains a sense of realism; I know I'd probably exclaim worse things if I got shot.

I completely agree, if they started to edit the game down to the last detail so it wouldnt offend anyone, then it wouldnt be near as realistic. Besides, the "god" part of it may not specifically mean god, its a common swear that ppl use.

Still, I understand his concern. Maybe in future games there can be a "censor" option so the player can decide whether or not they want to hear those things, sorta like how some games have an option to turn off "gore" like in Resident Evil or whatever.  

That's fine, options are great - but only when they don't consume development time that could be used elsewhere. It's really up to the company to decide how to use its resources, and while the OP believes such a simple language filter would be no problem for BioWare, in reality, only BioWare knows.

No. Having options for that kind of thing is just stupid. OP needs to suck it up.

Cerberus is a group trying to make sure humans come out on top no matter what. They kidnap newborn children, they murder Alliance admirals, they use Thresher Maws to wipe out whole units of Alliance soldiers. Making them god-fearing enough to not say god dammit doesnt fit with their entire outlook.

[billanizer]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

honestly there are worse remarks in mass effect goddamnit shouldnt be the worst of your profanity troubles

[xODD7BALLx]

aLucidMind wrote...

How is "goddamnint" offensive? If you got shot, I'm sure the first thing you'll be saying won't be "*Gets hit* Oh sassafrass, sassafrass, sassafrass". Because I know the first thing I would be saying is "Oh, ****! ****! Goddamnit!"

Luckily I've never been shot before but I've been unfortunate enough to recieve shrapnel on more than one occasion and the last thing I did was curse God, I was actually more thankful it wasnt worse, but that's just how I handled it. Cursing isn't something that offends me, I've cursed plenty in the past but it's something I strive not to do now, I've noticed the less of it I hear the less I catch myself nearly dropping f-bombs.

Games of the past had plenty of gore/blood and language filters and custom keymapping but those are features that would allow the consumer to have a custom experience, but customization is clearly unreasonable to some.

[Tigerjunky]

Some people are being really offensive about this. No matter your religion or beliefs being kind and respecting someone should be apart of EVERYONES agenda. No need to hate. As far as the OP's post goes maybe he just wanted to give the developers a heads up.

[byne]

Operative84 wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

How is "goddamnint" offensive? If you got shot, I'm sure the first thing you'll be saying won't be "*Gets hit* Oh sassafrass, sassafrass, sassafrass". Because I know the first thing I would be saying is "Oh, ****! ****! Goddamnit!"

Luckily I've never been shot before but I've been unfortunate enough to recieve shrapnel on more than one occasion and the last thing I did was curse God, I was actually more thankful it wasnt worse, but that's just how I handled it.

Saying 'God damn it' isnt even cursing god. You are imploring god to damn something, not damning god.

[TobiTobsen]

Zjarcal wrote...

Cerberus grunts should shout "TIMdamnit!" when they're hit.

I support that!

[HiddenKING]

bleetman wrote...

They could always recruit/clone grow/whatever they did when making their spontaneously huge army people solely from Victorian England. That might solve it?

"I dare say, I appear to have been inflicted with a grievous wound to my personage! It may even be fatal given inadequate medical attention. How bally inconvenient."
"Rather poor show, forsooth."

I approve of this.

[ncknck]

I think there is a remainder which says that EA is not responsible for online content and it may change the game experience. Which is one of these cases. Same as Bioware is not responsible for our actions here. Or i could plan a terrorist attack here, and then sue Bioware because its on their server/forum.

[Davidicus]

byne wrote...

Operative84 wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

How is "goddamnint" offensive? If you got shot, I'm sure the first thing you'll be saying won't be "*Gets hit* Oh sassafrass, sassafrass, sassafrass". Because I know the first thing I would be saying is "Oh, ****! ****! Goddamnit!"

Luckily I've never been shot before but I've been unfortunate enough to recieve shrapnel on more than one occasion and the last thing I did was curse God, I was actually more thankful it wasnt worse, but that's just how I handled it.

Saying 'God damn it' isnt even cursing god. You are imploring god to damn something, not damning god.

The only issue is that it can be perceived as taking the Lord's name in vain, which is obviously against one of the Ten Commandments. I don't necessarily view it as such, and Operative, I respect your reaction and effort to swear less. While it may or may not be "wrong", it's certainly not tasteful. Like the Internet really cares, though .

[xODD7BALLx]

byne wrote...

Operative84 wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

How is "goddamnint" offensive? If you got shot, I'm sure the first thing you'll be saying won't be "*Gets hit* Oh sassafrass, sassafrass, sassafrass". Because I know the first thing I would be saying is "Oh, ****! ****! Goddamnit!"

Luckily I've never been shot before but I've been unfortunate enough to recieve shrapnel on more than one occasion and the last thing I did was curse God, I was actually more thankful it wasnt worse, but that's just how I handled it.

Saying 'God damn it' isnt even cursing god. You are imploring god to damn something, not damning god.

That's your opinion and I respect that, however I feel differently about it so please respect my opinion as I respect yours.

[Heather Cline]

this thread is full of fail.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Tigerjunky wrote...

Some people are being really offensive about this. No matter your religion or beliefs being kind and respecting someone should be apart of EVERYONES agenda. No need to hate. As far as the OP's post goes maybe he just wanted to give the developers a heads up.

Agreed, as ridiculous this may seem to some, ppl unleashing their inner tourretes guy and flaming/trolling/insulting the OP just because they dont agree with him doesnt help anyone. Grow the hell up ppl. 

Honestly, I thought it was silly some didnt like the "No Russian" leval in MW2(I still understood why regardless), but the optional filter didnt bother me.

If encouraging Bioware to do the same later on for language, why is it such a big deal?

[Ryuukosusei]

My gripe isn't swearing, im ok with that. Its cursing against God's name that is offensive. Its not a hard thing to leave out of a game.

I suppose i didn't clarify that. I understand not everyone is Christian and I'm not saying your opinions are bad. I'm not surprised to get this much hate on a topic, but the whole 'homosexual' relationship thing was also a minority, so why is my opinion so bad too you people?

Its not like I'm asking a lot.

[byne]

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

Tigerjunky wrote...

Some people are being really offensive about this. No matter your religion or beliefs being kind and respecting someone should be apart of EVERYONES agenda. No need to hate. As far as the OP's post goes maybe he just wanted to give the developers a heads up.

Agreed, as ridiculous this may seem to some, ppl unleashing their inner tourretes guy and flaming/trolling/insulting the OP just because they dont agree with him doesnt help anyone. Grow the hell up ppl. 

Honestly, I thought it was silly some didnt like the "No Russian" leval in MW2(I still understood why regardless), but the optional filter didnt bother me.

If encouraging Bioware to do the same later on for language, why is it such a big deal?

Because even if you skipped No Russian, it still happened in the storyline. Making Cerberus softer and not as swear-happy doesnt fit with their image at all. It'd be like making Grunt a pacifist.

[Tassigny]

Hi. If you really don't feel okay about enjoy your life because of religion, you should probably stop practising it. Just saying.

Modifié par Tassigny, 03 mars 2012 - 07:31 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

Ryuukosusei wrote...

My gripe isn't swearing, im ok with that. Its cursing against God's name that is offensive. Its not a hard thing to leave out of a game.

I suppose i didn't clarify that. I understand not everyone is Christian and I'm not saying your opinions are bad. I'm not surprised to get this much hate on a topic, but the whole 'homosexual' relationship thing was also a minority, so why is my opinion so bad too you people?

Its not like I'm asking a lot.

I don't like hearing cursing, but you can either ignore it and do your best to not absorb it, or shut yourself off from it completely, which means not playing the game. The one thing you can't do is stop other people from saying it, it's just not going to happen in this day and age. It's already a part of the common lexicon.

[AlanC9]

Il Divo wrote...

Nothing good will come of this thread, so says my magic eight ball.

Nothing good? I reckon some lulz will result. Hell, I lol'ed at the OP. (I'm not especially proud of that)

[AlanC9]

Ryuukosusei wrote...

My gripe isn't swearing, im ok with that. Its cursing against God's name that is offensive. Its not a hard thing to leave out of a game.

I suppose i didn't clarify that. I understand not everyone is Christian and I'm not saying your opinions are bad. I'm not surprised to get this much hate on a topic, but the whole 'homosexual' relationship thing was also a minority, so why is my opinion so bad too you people?

Its not like I'm asking a lot.

Not a lot, but you are asking to make the game worse. I find your tastes annoying, and I don't want to see them gratified in any media property that I'm interested in.

[Jerjud45]

If you want to play games that don't have offensive dialog, don't play Mature rated games. Its that simple. Same goes with movies, you don't watch R rated movies if you don't want to hear four letter words or see some ******, right?

I respect your opinion and your beliefs, but I find your request to be ridiculous.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

byne wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

Tigerjunky wrote...

Some people are being really offensive about this. No matter your religion or beliefs being kind and respecting someone should be apart of EVERYONES agenda. No need to hate. As far as the OP's post goes maybe he just wanted to give the developers a heads up.

Agreed, as ridiculous this may seem to some, ppl unleashing their inner tourretes guy and flaming/trolling/insulting the OP just because they dont agree with him doesnt help anyone. Grow the hell up ppl. 

Honestly, I thought it was silly some didnt like the "No Russian" leval in MW2(I still understood why regardless), but the optional filter didnt bother me.

If encouraging Bioware to do the same later on for language, why is it such a big deal?

Because even if you skipped No Russian, it still happened in the storyline. Making Cerberus softer and not as swear-happy doesnt fit with their image at all. It'd be like making Grunt a pacifist.

....right. No Russian was an entire leval, this is even less than that, we're only talking about the language being used. 

It is still an M rated game, so I very much doubt that they would change an entire factions image just to suit the filter.

[Sunfleur]

Eh... It's something that I'm not surprised to hear from Cerberus operatives. I suppose Bioware should consider adding some sort of filter if it's really that offensive to some people. Personally, I would just ignore it. They're video game characters. It could always be a lot worse.