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[levannar]

It's the trend, although that hardly makes it logical. My CE will arrive to the shop on Monday, and they'll let me pick it up immediately (yes, a day before the US release, even though I'm in Europe--I don't have special 'connections' with the store either, I'm a regular paying customer). Then, I'll have to wait until Friday to play it, because EA won't let me register it while at the same time, they claim the only reason we get it on the 9th is the EU distribution system. Go figure.

[young fox]

Gabey5 wrote...

it is a retail practice and has nothing to do with bioware

As mentioned earlier, Bethesda didn't follow the retail practice, and I doubt they had any trouble by not doing it. Why can't BioWare do the same for a game that is as hyped as Skyrim was?

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Bendok wrote...

Don't movies and games traditionally get released on Fridays there? They do on Tuesday's in north America for some reason. I personally would prefer Fridays cause then you have the weekend right away. Skyrim released on a Friday so they could have a simultaneous worldwide release. I liked that.

I agree, Tuesday's may be earlier but its such a pain in the ass sometimes lol. 

[Siegdrifa]

Some video game shop in France seem to be selling the game since saturday morning.

http://www.gamalive....tie-acheter.htm

No doubt only console gamer can enjoy it right now, pc gamer will have to wait a few mor days for the activation through origin.

Modifié par Siegdrifa, 03 mars 2012 - 09:53 .

[kongenial]

su66otnik wrote...

Gabey5 wrote...

it is a retail practice and has nothing to do with bioware

As mentioned earlier, Bethesda didn't follow the retail practice, and I doubt they had any trouble by not doing it. Why can't BioWare do the same for a game that is as hyped as Skyrim was?

Because Bethesda is it's own publisher. For ME3 EA made the (totally stupid and unnecessary) decision to release it on differnent time slots.

[Rickin10]

 Give the Amercians a few days to read the manual?

[Rivercurse]

Thought it was due to the fact that PAL releases were always on Fridays whearas the US format, think its NTSC, has always traditionally been tuesdays.

So many conspiracy theories about this. Jesus it's only a couple of days, if you can't hold off that long without pirating the game then F you.

And yes, Im fron Europe.

[Abirn]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

How many times do people have to say that it's an industry-wide practice not limited to mean old BW/EA?

As for the piracy thing: I live in Hawaii (which is part of the U.S.), and being in the islands means I can get games a few days (or even a week-plus) after the NA release date unless I cough up extra $$ for super-fast shipping. Having to wait three bloody days longer than other people is a pathetic excuse for pirating any game.

I wasn't aware that there was some sort of Law in place forcing the companies to do this.  In the digital age there is no reason why games shouldn't be released everywhere at midnight.

[Mad Pig]

if i get my copy early im just going to use a proxy to activate it, if not then im going to play with some other "version" of the game until i get my copy.

[Reorte]

The later the better. I'm starting to not want ME3, mostly because once I've played it that'll be it, nothing new for the characters at least (if not the setting) that I've come to love, aside from a bit of DLC. Yes, I could just not buy it so it's always there waiting but I've no willpower for that.

Marginally more sensibly Friday is better otherwise it'll really mess up my working week.

Modifié par Reorte, 03 mars 2012 - 09:59 .

[kongenial]

But still, in Europe you pay more for a game and have to wait longer to buy it. Therefore it is not rationally explainable why Europe has a later release date. Especially if you consider that they usually maintain several distribution and logistic centers.

[Vengeful Nature]

I don't usually accuse people of this, but OP is probably trolling. The vast majority of games get released on a Friday in most of Europe. It's not just Bioware (anyway, EA is the publisher). The only exceptions are very big releases like Call of Duty and Halo.

Modifié par Vengeful Nature, 03 mars 2012 - 10:00 .

[AtreiyaN7]

su66otnik wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

How many times do people have to say that it's an industry-wide practice not limited to mean old BW/EA?

As for the piracy thing: I live in Hawaii (which is part of the U.S.), and being in the islands means I can get games a few days (or even a week-plus) after the NA release date unless I cough up extra $$ for super-fast shipping. Having to wait three bloody days longer than other people is a pathetic excuse for pirating any game.

I'm not condoning pirating the game whatsoever, but I'm fairly sure it'll be the reason that breaks many people. I'll practically have to take an internet blackout for three days from all my usual outlets purely because of it. It's silly.

Again, I have to bring up my old laptop bricking and being without it for a week. It's entirely possible to live without gaming or visiting media sites for three days in my opinion. I had access to forums via my ipad at the time but couldn't do any actual gaming (like playing TOR or Skyrim) - so I spent most of my time reading books & doing other stuff. It's easy enough to find other things to do for such a short period of time.

And you may not be condoning piracy, but I'm just saying that anyone who does pirate the game because they can't survive a three-day wait is using the delay as an extremely poor reason for being a thief.

[Mad Pig]

Navasha wrote...

My guess would be that North America is the largest market and since the vast number of piracy violations take place overseas, they can get a much higher initial sales.

If it was released worldwide, then pirated copies would start showing up within days and more people would likely just wait for a pirated version.

Its not some arbitrary decision. Again.... don't blame the developers... blame the pirates. They are ultimately the ones that companies have to adapt their policies around.

You do know thats not true, on the contrary it increases piracy, but if you dont believe me just look at the Skyrim sales it was released on the same day everywhere and was a huge success on every platform including PC.

[Navasha]

You know... it could come down to some old unspoken agreement to avoid cross media competition. Movies are released on Fridays here in America. Games on Tuesdays. If games are released in Europe on Fridays, I am willing to bet your movies probably come out earlier in the week.

Don't want people staying home to play their new game instead of going to the movies.. and you don't want some new movie to prevent someone from getting their hands on your game on day 1.

Just a thought... don't really know when movies are released in Europe.

[ichobi]

Just because it's a tradition doesn't mean customer have to stand for it. I for one think it's quite stupid in this days and ages. IMO if customers (not for just ME3) take a stand and make it known that they won't stand for such BS, publishers could change it. I see no harm in doing a world wide release for every game.

[Abirn]

Navasha wrote...

You know... it could come down to some old unspoken agreement to avoid cross media competition. Movies are released on Fridays here in America. Games on Tuesdays. If games are released in Europe on Fridays, I am willing to bet your movies probably come out earlier in the week.

Don't want people staying home to play their new game instead of going to the movies.. and you don't want some new movie to prevent someone from getting their hands on your game on day 1.

Just a thought... don't really know when movies are released in Europe.

2 flaws in your theory.

1.  Disposable income is dropping, with prices rising and wages staying the same or going down people aren't going to be buying games AND going to the movies.  

2.  What you have described is a HUGE violation of anti-trust law.  So much so that the thought of getting caught would scare companies into not engaging in it.

[AtreiyaN7]

Abirn wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

How many times do people have to say that it's an industry-wide practice not limited to mean old BW/EA?

As for the piracy thing: I live in Hawaii (which is part of the U.S.), and being in the islands means I can get games a few days (or even a week-plus) after the NA release date unless I cough up extra $$ for super-fast shipping. Having to wait three bloody days longer than other people is a pathetic excuse for pirating any game.

I wasn't aware that there was some sort of Law in place forcing the companies to do this.  In the digital age there is no reason why games shouldn't be released everywhere at midnight.

Who said it was a law? Maybe you should read that again. I said it's an industry-wide practice. I didn't say it was the result of a law. Nobody said it was logical or brilliant - it's just a practice that the industry engages in for their business reasons. You occasionally get exceptions like Bethesda's release of Skyrim as was pointed out in another post in here, but one probably shouldn't count on it happening with every game release. 

[Almostfaceman]

su66otnik wrote...

It makes no sense. Why would you do that, BioWare? All you're doing is setting yourself up to losing impatient customers to piracy.

Why are you yelling at Bioware instead of the retailers? It's not under Bioware's control.

[Merengues 1945]

su66otnik wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

That's just how new media releases are typically done in Europe. Have you somehow never noticed this before?

Of course I have. That still doesn't make it seem any more logical, especially not now with digital distributing and everything.

It's just a proof of the truth... America Rules!!!

Just discrepancies on the markets and the way of doing bussiness and such... some games are launched first on Europe and later on America... The same for Asian games.

[AdrynBliss]

su66otnik wrote...

It makes no sense. Why would you do that, BioWare? All you're doing is setting yourself up to losing impatient customers to piracy.

Hey, i'm all for ****ing i.e constructivly critizing BW or EA when it's actually their fault but if you'd taken 5 minutes to actually look into the issue you know BW/EA don't get a say in it, it's something to do with PAL retail/distribution.

[young fox]

Vengeful Nature wrote...

I don't usually accuse people of this, but OP is probably trolling. The vast majority of games get released on a Friday in most of Europe. It's not just Bioware (anyway, EA is the publisher). The only exceptions are very big releases like Call of Duty and Halo.

I'm not trolling, and yes, I'm perfectly aware that this is a standard practice, but in the age of digital distribution, there's ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO DO IT.

[Navasha]

Abirn wrote...

2 flaws in your theory.

1.  Disposable income is dropping, with prices rising and wages staying the same or going down people aren't going to be buying games AND going to the movies.  

2.  What you have described is a HUGE violation of anti-trust law.  So much so that the thought of getting caught would scare companies into not engaging in it.

1.  Exactly..   So why would you want to compete for different products all on the same day? 

2.   Not sure how that is some kind of anti-trust violation.   These aren't the same company or even the same types of products.   Movies do this all the time amonst themselves.   Two different studios don't release two huge sci-fi blockbuster movies on the same day.    It splits your customer base. 

[Legion64]

Are any europeans here not aware that this has been going on for years? Or have they finally just figured this out? You've delt with it before so I am sure you can deal with it again.

Deal with it, son.

Modifié par Legion64, 03 mars 2012 - 10:25 .

[young fox]

AdrynBliss wrote...

su66otnik wrote...

It makes no sense. Why would you do that, BioWare? All you're doing is setting yourself up to losing impatient customers to piracy.

Hey, i'm all for ****ing i.e constructivly critizing BW or EA when it's actually their fault but if you'd taken 5 minutes to actually look into the issue you know BW/EA don't get a say in it, it's something to do with PAL retail/distribution.

So that's why a game such as Skyrim didn't get a planet-wide release date?

Oh wait. Boom, there goes your argument. Take five minutes to dwell on that, please.