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[ColdRiver]

bwg888 wrote...

dangermouseuk78 wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...

Why are you blaming Bioware and not Europe? lol

It alot easier to blame them than a continent dont you think i dont see how a land mass effects release schedules but retail stores can take there fair share of the blame.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Such a terrible pun. It should be affects* anyway

[dangermouseuk78]

ColdRiver wrote...

bwg888 wrote...

dangermouseuk78 wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...

Why are you blaming Bioware and not Europe? lol

It alot easier to blame them than a continent dont you think i dont see how a land mass effects release schedules but retail stores can take there fair share of the blame.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Such a terrible pun. It should be affects* anyway

well it was and unintentional pun but i believe thats the correct usage of Effects.

Modifié par dangermouseuk78, 03 mars 2012 - 11:12 .

[young fox]

ColdRiver wrote...

OP thinks THIS is why people pirate. Lol. Such moronic logic.

No. I'm saying it's a contributing factor to people pirating. Do you honestly think that people willingly want to sit and wait day upon day to experience the conclusion to their favorite franchise?

If you do, THAT'S moronic logic. Lol.

[alpha54]

Very good and clear explanation of why games are traditionally released on Tuesdays in NA and Friday in the EU in this video:

[ColdRiver]

dangermouseuk78 wrote...

ColdRiver wrote...

bwg888 wrote...

dangermouseuk78 wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...

Why are you blaming Bioware and not Europe? lol

It alot easier to blame them than a continent dont you think i dont see how a land mass effects release schedules but retail stores can take there fair share of the blame.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

Such a terrible pun. It should be affects* anyway

well it was and unintentional pun but i believe thats the correct usage of Effects.

No, you're looking for Affect. To Influence or change something. The effect is the result.

[levicki]

Beatrix Tair wrote...

EU: Friday tends to be payday.

£££

It's that simple.

Then why not release the Friday before the launch in USA and Canada for a change?

Those are just some lame excuses everyone is giving here.

Moreover, if physical product has to be released on Mar 9th, why digital product has to wait?

Is it possible that all of you have already forgotten how ME2 launched on Steam on the same day (give or take few hours) for everyone on the planet???

In my opinion, EA = Sony (movies) when it comes to regional lockdown.

Modifié par levicki, 03 mars 2012 - 11:48 .

[kongenial]

levicki wrote...

Then why not release the Friday before the launch in USA and Canada for a change?

Those are just some lame excuses everyone is giving here.

If physical product has to be released on Mar 9th, why digital has to wait? Did you all already forget how ME2 launched on Steam on the same day (give or take few hours) for everyone on the planet???

That shows that Steam is plain socialism 

[BBCH]

As I work Monday through Friday, I'm just glad it's not launched on Friday in the US and on Monday in Europe. Having just a couple of hours a day for the first playthrough would kill me, this way I'll have a weekend marathon.
(the three day spread still makes no sense, though)

[levicki]

kongenial wrote...
That shows that Steam is plain socialism 

I for one welcome our socialist overlords ;-)

Joking aside, it also shows how Origin is self-proclaimed elitism.

You will at least get the game on Mar 9th, I can't even buy it here.

[kongenial]

levicki wrote...

I for one welcome our socialist overlords ;-)

levicki wrote...

Joking aside, it also shows how Origin is self-proclaimed elitism.

You will at least get the game on Mar 9th, I can't even buy it here.

That is also shown by the fact, that the digital version of ME3 in the Origin store is actually more expensive than the physical edition sold by other retailers.

Yes that it really weird. You were the one from Serbia, correct? Will you not be able to buy the game in a regular store and then activate it (because I would assume that the release date check would correlate with maybe Russia) or are you just not able to buy it through Origin?

[TexasToast712]

 Takes a while to ship copies overseas I would imagine.

[kongenial]

TexasToast712 wrote...

 Takes a while to ship copies overseas I would imagine.

Nope, because the are usually produced within Europe.

[SnakeStrike8]

su66otnik wrote...

ColdRiver wrote...

OP thinks THIS is why people pirate. Lol. Such moronic logic.

No. I'm saying it's a contributing factor to people pirating. Do you honestly think that people willingly want to sit and wait day upon day to experience the conclusion to their favorite franchise?

If you do, THAT'S moronic logic. Lol.

I waited since the end of ME 2 without exploding or shooting myself.

Modifié par SnakeStrike8, 04 mars 2012 - 12:04 .

[Brownfinger]

For my Euro bros, I'm going to abstain from playing my copy Monday night in protest of them having to wait.

I'll wait all the way until 12:01, Tuesday morning.

I tried. >_< I really did.

[GreggJSpradling]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

How many times do people have to say that it's an industry-wide practice not limited to mean old BW/EA?

As for the piracy thing: I live in Hawaii (which is part of the U.S.), and being in the islands means I can get games a few days (or even a week-plus) after the NA release date unless I cough up extra $$ for super-fast shipping. Having to wait three bloody days longer than other people is a pathetic excuse for pirating any game.

at least you'll have a nice view.......try waiting in RENO!   Infact come here for a month and you can have my game on Tuesday, I'll crash on your couch and wait for it in ten days........

just clear it with your roomates first I don't want any drama...
and anyone living in London...that offer is open to you too.   Not Brighton, just London. (maybe Basingstoke)

[Stealth3]

There's an old story where at a US military base, a private was always on guard in a location such that everybody was wondering about the importance of that location. Nobody could figure out why somebody was always on guard there.

It turned out that long long ago an officer ordered a private to stay guard next to a cement patch to make sure nobody touches it until it dries. Cement dried and decades later somebody was still standing guard because nobody bothered to understand or change anything and that officer was long gone.

Same here.

[AlexXIV]

Nobody in this thread does seem to have a clue. Retail and PAL etc. is BS because even on Origin (digital download) you only get it on 8th or 9th. I would like to know the real reason too though.

[Stealth3]

Europeans will just end up pirating because it will be available at least 2 full days earlier. Plus they probably already preloaded the game by now.

[ticklefist]

Legitimate retail purchase will be available before a working crack is.

[AlexXIV]

Stealth3 wrote...

Europeans will just end up pirating because it will be available at least 2 full days earlier. Plus they probably already preloaded the game by now.

People don't pirate games just to play earlier. They do it so because they don't want to pay. Which is hella rude tbh because real fans want Bioware to have money to make games in the future too. Pirating is the most selfish and egoistic thing people can do and there is no excuse for it. Bioware asked for it/EA/Origin is to blame is pure bull****. Because frankly, if all people were such egomaniacs then everyone would pirate and in a couple of years nobody would buy or produce games anymore. They are just leeches on society. Or in our case on our gaming community. If people want to play, pay. If not, then they don't need to buy the game, period.

[young fox]

ticklefist wrote...

Legitimate retail purchase will be available before a working crack is.

Hahahaha, no.

[sayersybrfc]

ColdRiver wrote...

OP thinks THIS is why people pirate. Lol. Such moronic logic.

He's actually completely right, you're the moron.

http://www.mobiledia...ews/128075.html

[young fox]

AlexXIV wrote...

Stealth3 wrote...

Europeans will just end up pirating because it will be available at least 2 full days earlier. Plus they probably already preloaded the game by now.

People don't pirate games just to play earlier. They do it so because they don't want to pay. Which is hella rude tbh because real fans want Bioware to have money to make games in the future too. Pirating is the most selfish and egoistic thing people can do and there is no excuse for it. Bioware asked for it/EA/Origin is to blame is pure bull****. Because frankly, if all people were such egomaniacs then everyone would pirate and in a couple of years nobody would buy or produce games anymore. They are just leeches on society. Or in our case on our gaming community. If people want to play, pay. If not, then they don't need to buy the game, period.

Here's a couple of reasons why people pirate:
1) Lack of convenience. This is why services such as Steam are having a good time, purely because it's incredibly simple to buy->play a game.
2) Too expensive. This is why many games have gone on a sales-spree, and why projects like the Humble Bundle exist. If something is on sale, more people are willing to buy it. I'm guessing you could put too many DLC's
 into this category as well.
3) DRM. I had to download a crack for AC2 once because I couldn't get my COMPLETELY LEGALLY BOUGHT version to play. I haven't bought an Ubisoft game since, and I don't plan to.
4) Bad customer-relations. This is what's haunting EA currently.
5) Delayed release. As posted right above this, people go to piracy when a game/movie/album is released somewhere and delayed for the rest of the world. You'd be a fool to think this has no effect on piracy whatsoever.

Pirates aren't just there to **** on companies. Most of them have plenty of valid reasons, and it just so happens that they can get their cake and eat it too when it comes to videogames, which doesn't really happen in any other product.

Modifié par su66otnik, 04 mars 2012 - 12:45 .

[Guanxii]

bwg888 wrote...

I'm not sure why to the OP this seems like a tragic abomination that needs international rallying behind it... there are plenty of things that are still done out of habit or practice that would be a colossal hassle to change, as incredibly convenient and useful as that change might be. Income/savings tax is one. Pretty much any economist worth his salt (or worth anything) will tell you that a consumption tax is so much obviously better that it's crazy. But that kinda overhaul is a nightmare, I don't even know how you could attempt that in a first-world democracy. An example more specific to me, I guess: Forcing Americans to actually assign uses to traffic lanes (passing, cruising, slow/exit/entry) would also increase efficiency so incredibly much, you couldn't even imagine. But how you gon' do dat?

Wouldn't a "consumption tax" be a highly regressive tax? E.g. e.g. people who spend 85% of their monthly wages on food, energy, etc. aka the poor would be effectively be taxed at a much higher rate [% of their income] than higher income earners who only spend < 10% on food, energy etc. We don't do these things in civilized countries.

I believe it's called Marginal Propensity to spend in economics.

[ColdRiver]

sayersybrfc wrote...

ColdRiver wrote...

OP thinks THIS is why people pirate. Lol. Such moronic logic.

He's actually completely right, you're the moron.

http://www.mobiledia...ews/128075.html

>Hollywood
>Mobile Media
>Serious news source

Yeah, nah.