TheShizno wrote...
Ok, I propose that from now on European games shall be released on the Friday before the American release. Its still Friday so problem solved.
I never said they don't have a bunch of lame excuses. There are no valid reasons for pirating. If you have a problem with the game contact customer support. I know it can suck to wait etc. but I can't steal stuff from a shop either because I don't want to stand in the line at the cash out (or what it is called in english).su66otnik wrote...
Here's a couple of reasons why people pirate:AlexXIV wrote...
People don't pirate games just to play earlier. They do it so because they don't want to pay. Which is hella rude tbh because real fans want Bioware to have money to make games in the future too. Pirating is the most selfish and egoistic thing people can do and there is no excuse for it. Bioware asked for it/EA/Origin is to blame is pure bull****. Because frankly, if all people were such egomaniacs then everyone would pirate and in a couple of years nobody would buy or produce games anymore. They are just leeches on society. Or in our case on our gaming community. If people want to play, pay. If not, then they don't need to buy the game, period.Stealth3 wrote...
Europeans will just end up pirating because it will be available at least 2 full days earlier. Plus they probably already preloaded the game by now.
1) Lack of convenience. This is why services such as Steam are having a good time, purely because it's incredibly simple to buy->play a game.
2) Too expensive. This is why many games have gone on a sales-spree, and why projects like the Humble Bundle exist. If something is on sale, more people are willing to buy it. I'm guessing you could put too many DLC's
into this category as well.
3) DRM. I had to download a crack for AC2 once because I couldn't get my COMPLETELY LEGALLY BOUGHT version to play. I haven't bought an Ubisoft game since, and I don't plan to.
4) Bad customer-relations. This is what's haunting EA currently.
5) Delayed release. As posted right above this, people go to piracy when a game/movie/album is released somewhere and delayed for the rest of the world. You'd be a fool to think this has no effect on piracy whatsoever.
Pirates aren't just there to **** on companies. Most of them have plenty of valid reasons, and it just so happens that they can get their cake and eat it too when it comes to videogames, which doesn't really happen in any other product.
AlexXIV wrote...
I never said they don't have a bunch of lame excuses. There are no valid reasons for pirating. If you have a problem with the game contact customer support. I know it can suck to wait etc. but I can't steal stuff from a shop either because I don't want to stand in the line at the cash out (or what it is called in english).su66otnik wrote...
Here's a couple of reasons why people pirate:AlexXIV wrote...
People don't pirate games just to play earlier. They do it so because they don't want to pay. Which is hella rude tbh because real fans want Bioware to have money to make games in the future too. Pirating is the most selfish and egoistic thing people can do and there is no excuse for it. Bioware asked for it/EA/Origin is to blame is pure bull****. Because frankly, if all people were such egomaniacs then everyone would pirate and in a couple of years nobody would buy or produce games anymore. They are just leeches on society. Or in our case on our gaming community. If people want to play, pay. If not, then they don't need to buy the game, period.Stealth3 wrote...
Europeans will just end up pirating because it will be available at least 2 full days earlier. Plus they probably already preloaded the game by now.
1) Lack of convenience. This is why services such as Steam are having a good time, purely because it's incredibly simple to buy->play a game.
2) Too expensive. This is why many games have gone on a sales-spree, and why projects like the Humble Bundle exist. If something is on sale, more people are willing to buy it. I'm guessing you could put too many DLC's
into this category as well.
3) DRM. I had to download a crack for AC2 once because I couldn't get my COMPLETELY LEGALLY BOUGHT version to play. I haven't bought an Ubisoft game since, and I don't plan to.
4) Bad customer-relations. This is what's haunting EA currently.
5) Delayed release. As posted right above this, people go to piracy when a game/movie/album is released somewhere and delayed for the rest of the world. You'd be a fool to think this has no effect on piracy whatsoever.
Pirates aren't just there to **** on companies. Most of them have plenty of valid reasons, and it just so happens that they can get their cake and eat it too when it comes to videogames, which doesn't really happen in any other product.
You want something, you make it yourself or you buy it from someone who made it. That's how economy works. Everything else harms economy and would completely ruin it if all people act like it. It just isn't overly harmful because most people know that and have something that's called backbone.
Yeah, because there first was DRM and then because of DRM pirating started. In your universe that is obviously not the same as everyone else lives in. People pirated games when there wasn't even any registry. The companies are since the first PC games busy to try to avoid pirating. DRM exists because of pirates, not the other way round. If all people were honest, life would be alot easier for everyone. It's a simple fact of life. Pirates never achieved anything but making things worse for everyone. Well aside from themselves, because they can play all games for free and without trouble, no? Very convenient.su66otnik wrote...
No. Piracy is just forcing developers and publishers to get with the times. We live in an age of digital distribution, where ease of access should be incredibly simple, yet these thickheaded people think we should just sit and be okay with whatever they throw in our face.
Do you know what takes no backbone? Sitting passively, buying up products from publishers that absolutely loathe the consumer. Do you know what having a backbone means? Sticking it to the people that release a game several days later than when it should have, releasing tons of DLC and forcing DRM down your throat.
So **** you for thinking you're the good guy in this deal, when you're just sitting there, sucking on the bones that EA throws at you.
Modifié par AlexXIV, 04 mars 2012 - 01:11 .
And yet DRM doesn't stop pirates any bit, but only serves to annoy the customers. DRM did indeed start because of pirates, but has it served any purpose whatsoever? No.AlexXIV wrote...
Yeah, because there first was DRM and then because of DRM pirating started. In your universe that is obviously not the same as everyone else lives in. People pirated games when there wasn't even any registry. The companies are since the first PC games busy to try to avoid pirating. DRM exists because of pirates, not the other way round. If all people were honest, life would be alot easier for everyone. It's a simple fact of life. Pirates never achieved anything but making things worse for everyone. Well aside from themselves, because they can play all games for free and without trouble, no? Very convenient.su66otnik wrote...
No. Piracy is just forcing developers and publishers to get with the times. We live in an age of digital distribution, where ease of access should be incredibly simple, yet these thickheaded people think we should just sit and be okay with whatever they throw in our face.
Do you know what takes no backbone? Sitting passively, buying up products from publishers that absolutely loathe the consumer. Do you know what having a backbone means? Sticking it to the people that release a game several days later than when it should have, releasing tons of DLC and forcing DRM down your throat.
So **** you for thinking you're the good guy in this deal, when you're just sitting there, sucking on the bones that EA throws at you.
AlexXIV wrote...
People don't pirate games just to play earlier. They do it so because they don't want to pay. Which is hella rude tbh because real fans want Bioware to have money to make games in the future too. Pirating is the most selfish and egoistic thing people can do and there is no excuse for it. Bioware asked for it/EA/Origin is to blame is pure bull****. Because frankly, if all people were such egomaniacs then everyone would pirate and in a couple of years nobody would buy or produce games anymore. They are just leeches on society. Or in our case on our gaming community. If people want to play, pay. If not, then they don't need to buy the game, period.Stealth3 wrote...
Europeans will just end up pirating because it will be available at least 2 full days earlier. Plus they probably already preloaded the game by now.
GreggJSpradling wrote...
AtreiyaN7 wrote...
How many times do people have to say that it's an industry-wide practice not limited to mean old BW/EA?
As for the piracy thing: I live in Hawaii (which is part of the U.S.), and being in the islands means I can get games a few days (or even a week-plus) after the NA release date unless I cough up extra $$ for super-fast shipping. Having to wait three bloody days longer than other people is a pathetic excuse for pirating any game.
at least you'll have a nice view.......try waiting in RENO! Infact come here for a month and you can have my game on Tuesday, I'll crash on your couch and wait for it in ten days........
just clear it with your roomates first I don't want any drama...
and anyone living in London...that offer is open to you too. Not Brighton, just London. (maybe Basingstoke)
And that's supposed to be a valid reason for pirating?miniy2j wrote...
I'm impatient.
AlexXIV wrote...
And that's supposed to be a valid reason for pirating?miniy2j wrote...
I'm impatient.
Chuck Fandango wrote...
/This hehe
If I remember correctly, one of the Halo games (correct me if I'm wrong) released in Europe before NA & a lot of Americans went ape****! Just shows you how people fall into an entitlement attitude!
ToastyFresh wrote...
AlexXIV wrote...
And that's supposed to be a valid reason for pirating?miniy2j wrote...
I'm impatient.
Doesn't really matter. The point is that poor decisions and distribution on EA's part will likely lead to someone pirating the game and then cutting them out of a sale.
Toyou4you wrote...
Ummmmmm in America games release on Tuesdays (98% of the time) and in Europe they release on Fridays
KnifeForkAndSpoon wrote...
Toyou4you wrote...
Ummmmmm in America games release on Tuesdays (98% of the time) and in Europe they release on Fridays
Why can't they release on Tuesday in Europe? Is there some kind of law against it?
Phoenixblight wrote...
ToastyFresh wrote...
AlexXIV wrote...
And that's supposed to be a valid reason for pirating?miniy2j wrote...
I'm impatient.
Doesn't really matter. The point is that poor decisions and distribution on EA's part will likely lead to someone pirating the game and then cutting them out of a sale.
People pirate things for their own reasons and they attempt to justify it. They are wrong. It just as previous poster has said its like stealing something because you don't want to deal with the hassle of going through the cashier.
knightnblu wrote...
Just a guess, but I would imagine that it has something to do with the region encoding for the games in Europe. While this would not be a problem for PC, I would think that they would hold the PC so that everyone gets it at the same time.
ToastyFresh wrote...
Phoenixblight wrote...
ToastyFresh wrote...
AlexXIV wrote...
And that's supposed to be a valid reason for pirating?miniy2j wrote...
I'm impatient.
Doesn't really matter. The point is that poor decisions and distribution on EA's part will likely lead to someone pirating the game and then cutting them out of a sale.
People pirate things for their own reasons and they attempt to justify it. They are wrong. It just as previous poster has said its like stealing something because you don't want to deal with the hassle of going through the cashier.
You're not listening. Whether it is justified or not it, that guy who says he is impatient has pirated the game as a direct result of EA bringing in staggered release dates.
Modifié par Phoenixblight, 04 mars 2012 - 03:24 .
su66otnik wrote...
It makes no sense. Why would you do that, BioWare? All you're doing is setting yourself up to losing impatient customers to piracy.
Phoenixblight wrote...
Oh I read, it still doesn't justify his actions. THis is how things have been done since video games were in their infancy. All media gets released on a certain day because of distributation and DIgital distributation has to follow the same rules because otherwise it gives a huge advantage over the brick and mortar stores like walmart and gamestop which publishers can't yet remove from the formula because they have a large majority of the sales with these media types. In the future when games are all digital they can release them when they want but we have yet to cross that line.
This is just an example of entitled babies who have no patience.
101ezylonhxeT wrote...
If there so impatient that they would pirate than they don't deserve the game to begin with.
I remember that. There was a thread on their forums with a bunch of Americans raging and making all these excuses why it should be released there first like It will raise money for the games to be imported over seas and they should get it first because ifthey don't someone will spoil it on the forums (despite almost everyone else having that risk with almost every other game release.) Ohh that thread was so entertaining!Chuck Fandango wrote...
If I remember correctly, one of the Halo games (correct me if I'm wrong) released in Europe before NA & a lot of Americans went ape****! Just shows you how people fall into an entitlement attitude!
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