Fun fact: You're going to die one day and it probably won't be glorious.Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Uh, no. Bad destination/no destination= Pointless journey or in other words, back to square ****ing one.
Hey guys, look, even if the ending sucks, the game is still pretty good.
#51
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:28
#52
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:29
GodWood wrote...
Fun fact: You're going to die one day and it probably won't be glorious.Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Uh, no. Bad destination/no destination= Pointless journey or in other words, back to square ****ing one.
Four words: Go **** yourself, ******.
#53
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:30
Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Corvus Metus wrote...
I love the games. Mass Effect is without a doubt my favorite series. I have five complete playthroughs of the first two games and over a dozen other Shepards stopped at various points through out the games. I have hundreds of hours invested into the series - but I don't really care about the ending. Yes, I wish their was a happier one but to me the journey is more important than the destination.
Uh, no. If the destination is utter crap, the journey itself is meaningless and pointless. It's like saying "I want to be a successful [insert career here]" and that diety in the sky going out of its way to **** you over and prevent you from pursuing that career. What's the point of even trying if you're "going to fail anyway."
Because Shepard is a hero. It doesn't matter if you play Paragon or Renegade, or somewhere in between, (s)he intends to stop the Reapers to end the cycle of galatic extinction. As Zaeed would say, Shepard is "big goddamn hero". And heroes don't let the universe burn, just because bad things might happen.
Yes, if the leaks are true Shepard dies in most endings. Yes, the Normandy crew is stranded on an unknown planet. But Shepard did what (s)he set out to do - save the galaxy. That should be what matters. Not what happens afterwards.
Maybe I see things differently than most. My canon Shepard doesn't expect a happy ending. He expect himself, his entire crew, and everyone that he gathers to help in the war against the Reapers to die a painful and horrible death. His only hope is everything will be enough to end the cycle of extinction. Based on what I hear from the endings, it happens. So personally, I'm happy.
#54
Guest_EternalAmbiguity_*
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:30
Guest_EternalAmbiguity_*
GodWood wrote...
Fun fact: You're going to die one day and it probably won't be glorious.
>*zomg*<
#55
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:32
I'm sorry I had to be the one to break it to you.Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Four words: Go **** yourself, ******.
#56
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:35
WizenSlinky0 wrote...
Corvus Metus wrote...
Everyone on the Normady has an omni-tool that can convert a comic book into an assault rifle. It's not that much of a stretch of the imagination to believe that something exists on the ship that could turn even poisonous organic content into some sort of paste to keep the crew alive.
As for the incest? Well, the crew is genetically diverse enough that a few generations would be able to go without any major issues - especially since every Alliance military member has their genes perfected as part of their join. Throw in an Asari and things get even easier.
Not to mention in a series that had Space Magic from day one, Mass Effect 4 could easily be about the remains of the relays and the drive cores suddenly reactivaing - leading to a new mystry.
With the way people act, there's a graphic scene where everyone becomes crazed and they start killing each other.
Oh my, your head canon is quite liberal, isn't it? If only technology was quite so convenient as making assault rifles from a comic book.
But really, that sounds a lot better than the truth. So sure let's go with that.
Did ever read the codex of what the omni-tool can do? Damn near anything. If can convert nearly anything into omni-gel and in turn, omni-gel can be converted into weapon and armor parts, etc. Even if its never done in-game, that doesn't change what the codex says.
#57
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:42
Corvus Metus wrote...
Yes, if the leaks are true Shepard dies in most endings. Yes, the Normandy crew is stranded on an unknown planet. But Shepard did what (s)he set out to do - save the galaxy. That should be what matters. Not what happens afterwards.
Tell that to the thousands of artists on DeviantArt. I should have an option to have that happy ending if I want it.
Modifié par Lunatic LK47, 04 mars 2012 - 04:42 .
#58
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:43
Shepard set out to save the galaxy. He/she knew that without intervention, the Reapers were going to wipe out all galactic civilization and that every sentient would be killed. To that end, the finale was a success. The Reapers were stopped and they'll never kill again. Galactic civilization is free to develop without interference.
Did people really think that an ending with rainbows and glitter would be better than the ending we got? Would people really have been happy with a cheesy "Happily Ever After" ending? I wouldn't have. It has a much larger impact to think about what had to be given up in exchange for freedom.
Do I feel bad for the crew of the Normandy and Shepard? Of course. But they all knew the risks. They joined up because they believed in the cause and as Shepard said in the release trailer "Each of you has to be willing to die. Anything less and you're already dead."
#59
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:45
Omega-202 wrote...
If you think that the destination is utter crap then you're completely lost on what Shepard's goal was.
Shepard set out to save the galaxy. He/she knew that without intervention, the Reapers were going to wipe out all galactic civilization and that every sentient would be killed. To that end, the finale was a success. The Reapers were stopped and they'll never kill again. Galactic civilization is free to develop without interference.
Did people really think that an ending with rainbows and glitter would be better than the ending we got? Would people really have been happy with a cheesy "Happily Ever After" ending? I wouldn't have. It has a much larger impact to think about what had to be given up in exchange for freedom.
Do I feel bad for the crew of the Normandy and Shepard? Of course. But they all knew the risks. They joined up because they believed in the cause and as Shepard said in the release trailer "Each of you has to be willing to die. Anything less and you're already dead."
Uh, it's as stupid as telling a war veteran "Hey, congrats for saving the world, now go die in a corner while we kill off your husband/wife/kid."
#60
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:46
Now this is an interesting conondrum.GodWood wrote...
Fun fact: You're going to die one day and it probably won't be glorious.Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Uh, no. Bad destination/no destination= Pointless journey or in other words, back to square ****ing one.
Does this mean that Lunatic LK47 is a sadly irrelevant, pointless existence whose words and opinions have no merit because his (or her) death will likely have no greater meaning than to ultimately turn into worm food?
Or could Lunatic's logic be flawed, and a person's experiences and journey be meaningful and valuable despite not going out in a blaze of glory?
#61
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:47
#62
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:48
Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Tell that to the thousands of artists on DeviantArt. I should have an option to have that happy ending if I want it.
No you have no right to anything. You don't dictate an artists message.
Are you angry at Shakespeare for killing off Romeo and Juliet at the end? Did you write angry letters to Ridley Scott because he killed off Maximus at the end of Gladiator? Does anyone have the right to yell at JJ Abrams for destroying Vulcan in the new Star Trek movie?
You either accept an artist's vision or you avoid the work of art. Those are the options.
#63
Guest_EternalAmbiguity_*
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:49
Guest_EternalAmbiguity_*
Dean_the_Young wrote...
Now this is an interesting conondrum.
Does this mean that Lunatic LK47 is a sadly irrelevant, pointless existence whose words and opinions have no merit because his (or her) death will likely have no greater meaning than to ultimately turn into worm food?
Or could Lunatic's logic be flawed, and a person's experiences and journey be meaningful and valuable despite not going out in a blaze of glory?
Dean, you clever b*stard.
I'm not sure which one I like best!
/renegade
#64
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:50
Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Omega-202 wrote...
If you think that the destination is utter crap then you're completely lost on what Shepard's goal was.
Shepard set out to save the galaxy. He/she knew that without intervention, the Reapers were going to wipe out all galactic civilization and that every sentient would be killed. To that end, the finale was a success. The Reapers were stopped and they'll never kill again. Galactic civilization is free to develop without interference.
Did people really think that an ending with rainbows and glitter would be better than the ending we got? Would people really have been happy with a cheesy "Happily Ever After" ending? I wouldn't have. It has a much larger impact to think about what had to be given up in exchange for freedom.
Do I feel bad for the crew of the Normandy and Shepard? Of course. But they all knew the risks. They joined up because they believed in the cause and as Shepard said in the release trailer "Each of you has to be willing to die. Anything less and you're already dead."
Uh, it's as stupid as telling a war veteran "Hey, congrats for saving the world, now go die in a corner while we kill off your husband/wife/kid."
Lunatic LK47
what you've written thus far ... are some of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read them. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Just had to do it.
In any case, just cause you want something; does not mean you deserve it and again your post made little sense. In my honest opinion.
#65
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:51
Omega-202 wrote...
Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Tell that to the thousands of artists on DeviantArt. I should have an option to have that happy ending if I want it.
No you have no right to anything. You don't dictate an artists message.
Are you angry at Shakespeare for killing off Romeo and Juliet at the end? Did you write angry letters to Ridley Scott because he killed off Maximus at the end of Gladiator? Does anyone have the right to yell at JJ Abrams for destroying Vulcan in the new Star Trek movie?
You either accept an artist's vision or you avoid the work of art. Those are the options.
Or you overwrite the artist's work with your own inane imaginings like me.
#66
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:52
Omega-202 wrote...
Are you angry at Shakespeare for killing off Romeo and Juliet at the end? Did you write angry letters to Ridley Scott because he killed off Maximus at the end of Gladiator? Does anyone have the right to yell at JJ Abrams for destroying Vulcan in the new Star Trek movie?
You either accept an artist's vision or you avoid the work of art. Those are the options.
Uh, no. For a game that preaches about player choice, this completely nullifies it. BTW, your logic is completely flawed in every facet imaginable.
#67
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:52
Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Uh, it's as stupid as telling a war veteran "Hey, congrats for saving the world, now go die in a corner while we kill off your husband/wife/kid."
Wow...
No, its actually nothing like that. Shepard and crew knew what they were getting into. They made that sacrifice. There wasn't some omniscient in-fiction being that dictated that they die for what they did.
Life isn't fair. It doesn't always end with rainbows and happiness. Sometimes selfless sacrifice means more than personal satisfaction. If you don't have enough empathy to see that, I pity you.
#68
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:53
If the Mass Effect 3's ending matters to my enjoyment of the game as little as Fallout 3's I have no reservations about this game.Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Uh, no. We've spent a huge number of hours (ranging from 3 to 4 digits depending on how many Shepards we have) into this damn series, and did not sign up for a **** ending. This crap is why I gave away Fallout 3 after playing the game for a month. It's the equivalent of saying you want to have a successful career in your field only for some random gunman to shoot you in your house before you bother starting that career
#69
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:53
Cicero.me wrote...
Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Omega-202 wrote...
If you think that the destination is utter crap then you're completely lost on what Shepard's goal was.
Shepard set out to save the galaxy. He/she knew that without intervention, the Reapers were going to wipe out all galactic civilization and that every sentient would be killed. To that end, the finale was a success. The Reapers were stopped and they'll never kill again. Galactic civilization is free to develop without interference.
Did people really think that an ending with rainbows and glitter would be better than the ending we got? Would people really have been happy with a cheesy "Happily Ever After" ending? I wouldn't have. It has a much larger impact to think about what had to be given up in exchange for freedom.
Do I feel bad for the crew of the Normandy and Shepard? Of course. But they all knew the risks. They joined up because they believed in the cause and as Shepard said in the release trailer "Each of you has to be willing to die. Anything less and you're already dead."
Uh, it's as stupid as telling a war veteran "Hey, congrats for saving the world, now go die in a corner while we kill off your husband/wife/kid."
Lunatic LK47
what you've written thus far ... are some of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read them. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Your response is just as idiotic, ******.
#70
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:55
Omega-202 wrote...
Wow...
No, its actually nothing like that. Shepard and crew knew what they were getting into. They made that sacrifice. There wasn't some omniscient in-fiction being that dictated that they die for what they did.
Uh yeah, except considering the Reaper invasion is stopped, they should have a chance to that happy ending. Are you going to tell me that every World War II veteran having a stable life is nothing but fantasy? You're completely delusional.
#71
Guest_EternalAmbiguity_*
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:55
Guest_EternalAmbiguity_*
Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Your response is just as idiotic, ******.
You know, it's for responses like this that the new rules were made. I wonder if you're going to go *poof* and be gone...
Modifié par EternalAmbiguity, 04 mars 2012 - 04:55 .
#72
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:58
Better duck and cover.
I for one would find it really cheap if there was a simple happy ending.
A war with a giant mechanical squid ships that destroy all life on the planet and people want happy endings.
i just laugh.
Modifié par Rockworm503, 04 mars 2012 - 04:59 .
#73
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:59
#74
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 04:59
Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Cicero.me wrote...
Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Omega-202 wrote...
If you think that the destination is utter crap then you're completely lost on what Shepard's goal was.
Shepard set out to save the galaxy. He/she knew that without intervention, the Reapers were going to wipe out all galactic civilization and that every sentient would be killed. To that end, the finale was a success. The Reapers were stopped and they'll never kill again. Galactic civilization is free to develop without interference.
Did people really think that an ending with rainbows and glitter would be better than the ending we got? Would people really have been happy with a cheesy "Happily Ever After" ending? I wouldn't have. It has a much larger impact to think about what had to be given up in exchange for freedom.
Do I feel bad for the crew of the Normandy and Shepard? Of course. But they all knew the risks. They joined up because they believed in the cause and as Shepard said in the release trailer "Each of you has to be willing to die. Anything less and you're already dead."
Uh, it's as stupid as telling a war veteran "Hey, congrats for saving the world, now go die in a corner while we kill off your husband/wife/kid."
Lunatic LK47
what you've written thus far ... are some of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read them. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Your response is just as idiotic, ******.
Someone missed the joke and is resorting to mindless personal insults. I am sorry ,but if I see **** or *** anywhere in someone posts then they lost any hope of cedibility.
#75
Posté 04 mars 2012 - 05:00
EternalAmbiguity wrote...
Lunatic LK47 wrote...
Your response is just as idiotic, ******.
You know, it's for responses like this that the new rules were made. I wonder if you're going to go *poof* and be gone...
I gurantee it.
Twice he's resorted to personal insults and every post has that air of "i'm right and you're wrong" all over it.





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