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nobunagatron

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from a thread that was locked, keep spreading it:alien:


, I don't know where that original thread went, but it contained an awesome compilation of all the quotes BW made about ME3 that is worth looking through again, now that we know how the game is going to be like. I'm trying to rebuild the list, and would love to have some help.

THESE ARE NOT MADE UP. Source will be quoted where available. And try to stay civil and within topic. Don't give them easy excuses to lock the thread, because I'm damn sure they're itching to.
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"BioWare has confirmed that Mass Effect 3's storyline may change in response to fan feedback. Following a mistakenly-released beta that led to leaked story files, co-founder Greg Zeschuk says that the development team is actively paying attention to fans' input.

"We listen to our fans all of the time," Muzyka said. "We listen to them on the forums, their feedback from stories. We're reading it all. If we can get ideas out of it that will make the game better, sure. We're not adverse to taking feedback. That's part of our core values, is humility [Hi Stanley!]. Any time we get a good idea from fans... they're our audience. They keep us in business."

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"We have a really talented team of writers. We go through iteration after iteration, making it the best and most satisfying we can," he said.

"It's going to make some people extremely happy. It's going to make some people angry. But that's part of it, right? To invoke the emotion putting some of these stories to bed will naturally bring up.

He added: "I honestly think the player base is going to be really happy with the way we've done it. You had a part in it. Every decision you've made will impact how things go. The player's also the architect of what happens. "Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending. BioWare will not do a "Lost" and leave fans with more questions than answers after finishing the game, Gamble promised.
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"If players achieved a love interest in both Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2, then both previous love interests will be vying for Shepard's attention in Mass Effect 3."

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"As Mass Effect 3 is the end of the planned trilogy, the developers are not constrained by the necessity of allowing the story to diverge, yet also continue into the next chapter. This will result in a story that diverges into wildly different conclusions based on the player's actions in the first two chapters." - Casey Hudson

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"This [ME3] is really the best place to start playing the Mass Effect series, this is the beginning, middle and end of the whole galactic war," - Casey Hudson

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We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…" - Mike Gamble
http://www.gamezone....fferent-endings

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Mass Effect 3 to be more "lighthearted" <-- WHAT THE HEWL?
http://www.craveonli...re-lighthearted

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"Certainly it’s a very polished experience. In the story it starts at a time with a very singular focus and purpose in the galaxy. You could say the previous games were just a preamble to this moment. Everything has been building to this. It’s like the Superbowl. Who cares what happened in the regular season? Now’s the one that matters.
“Fans want a definitive end. They’ll be the judge of that ultimately when they play it and see how we do that. Certainly, what this game absolutely does represent is the culmination of almost a decade’s worth of work for the studio and for Casey [Hudson] and his team in terms of exactly what we’re trying to do with the game we kicked off almost ten years ago.
“They’re working really hard to make it a real proper conclusion, something that’s fitting to what they’ve worked on for so long, and what the fans are telling us they’re dying to see. - Aaron Flynn
http://www.vg247.com...-mass-effect-3/

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We're making Mass effect 3 to be the best game we've ever made. That would make it one of the best games ever, and we're hoping to see sales that reflect that.

http://www.computera...ing-out/?page=3

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"I think the exciting thing in the final chapter of the series is going to be just seeing where everything goes that we started"

Casey Hudson CES 2010

"You have to be open and take feedback…We've made our games better largely on press feedback. If you have humility it means you don't get indignant [about negative feedback]."

Greg Zeschuk Develop 2010

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Yeah but even that is kind of open as to exactly what happened there. Obviously, Mass Effect 3 will reveal all; that's the point of Mass Effect 3, we tie up a lot of those loose ends. But I think it's safe to say The Illusive Man is still very much "himself" throughout the course of what people have been playing. We wouldn't ever want you to feel like "oh this guy I worked for was really an enemy all along." But that doesn't mean there weren't influences in his life.

http://www.newsarama...ew-110726.html 


"Everything has been building to this. It's like the Superbowl. Who cares what happened in the regular season? Now's the one that matters." - BioWare Edmonton general manager Aaryn Flynn refering to ME3.

Modifié par nobunagatron, 03 mars 2012 - 10:47 .


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This forum is reminding me of novel 1984.

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SovereignWillReturn wrote...

This forum is reminding me of novel 1984.


we've always been at war with eastasia

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It was actually 2 locked threads already, I think this one will share the same fate...

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Why do they keep locking the threads? are they not happy about their lies?

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Add my sig to it. Yes, he really said that.

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nobunagatron

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Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

It was actually 2 locked threads already, I think this one will share the same fate...


Eventually it'll be locked, but people should see what the devs said, especially the casey hudson quote about wildly different endings :bandit:

Modifié par nobunagatron, 03 mars 2012 - 10:52 .


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They locked one thread and redirected it to a "THESE ARENT THE REAL ENDINGS" thread. Some people seem a bit butthurt.

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Tigerjunky wrote...

They locked one thread and redirected it to a "THESE ARENT THE REAL ENDINGS" thread. Some people seem a bit butthurt.


2 threads, soon to be 3

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MythicLegands wrote...

Why do they keep locking the threads? are they not happy about their lies?


The 1st rule of Bioware Developer Quotations Club?  You don't talk about Bioware Developer Quotations Club.

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Marta Rio wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

Why do they keep locking the threads? are they not happy about their lies?


The 1st rule of Bioware Developer Quotations Club?  You don't talk about Bioware Developer Quotations Club.


2nd rule of Bioware Developer Quotations Club? You DO NOT talk about Bioware Developer Quotations Club.

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This thread will be locked, I guarantee you that.

The official reason is probably that these kinds of threads serve no purpose beyond trashing Bioware, EA, and the individual devs. Which is true, in a way. This isn't exactly meant to be a critique.

Still, they are factual. So it's really a debatable issue whether or not they deserve to be locked. Personally, I imagine that there is a certain amount of disgust on the part of the devs toward being forced to read threads like this. If I were working for Bioware, and I saw how much information out there contradicts what is in the actual product, I'd jump to silence it too.

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I should mention; the "promises" made by developers before any game's release run more or less like the "promises" made by candidates on the campaign trail. There is little guarantee that they will be honored in full, or even honored at all. Yet, there really isn't anything to be done about it. The game is done, and the past is now the past.

Some of these quotes have sufficient wiggle room to loophole or slant the words to accommodate the final game. I hate this kind of deniability as much the next person (why in the world would you ever make a definitive statement if there's even the slightest chance you won't be able to, or won't choose to, honor it?), but again, it's over and done with.

To devs:
              Be more judicious in how you hype your product. Fans of a series are veeeeery picky about things not being the way they were told they would be, especially in as popular a series as Mass Effect. If you set a theme for two installments, or say that the game will be "more lighthearted", stick with this! I cannot stress this enough. It's fine to drum up excitement for a game you feel will be fantastic, but it's wrong to say things you know aren't entirely true. Part of the problem here is how subjective feelings over games are. Unfortunately, many of these quotes are not terribly subjective in nature. You can argue just how much emphasis you put on a particular feature, but it's always best to assume that the fans will put more emphasis on your words than you will.

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MrAtomica wrote...

This thread will be locked, I guarantee you that.

The official reason is probably that these kinds of threads serve no purpose beyond trashing Bioware, EA, and the individual devs. Which is true, in a way. This isn't exactly meant to be a critique.

Still, they are factual. So it's really a debatable issue whether or not they deserve to be locked. Personally, I imagine that there is a certain amount of disgust on the part of the devs toward being forced to read threads like this. If I were working for Bioware, and I saw how much information out there contradicts what is in the actual product, I'd jump to silence it too.


Okay.
So if we boil down the thread, don't have any insinutating remarks - just collecting a checklist of quotes to compare to the actual game - you think they'd allow it to stand?
Because I'm not so sure.

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MrAtomica wrote...

This thread will be locked, I guarantee you that.

The official reason is probably that these kinds of threads serve no purpose beyond trashing Bioware, EA, and the individual devs. Which is true, in a way. This isn't exactly meant to be a critique.

Still, they are factual. So it's really a debatable issue whether or not they deserve to be locked. Personally, I imagine that there is a certain amount of disgust on the part of the devs toward being forced to read threads like this. If I were working for Bioware, and I saw how much information out there contradicts what is in the actual product, I'd jump to silence it too.



If they can't stand by their own words, that's their problem. 

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I'm not saying that we have to turn this into a binary comparison. Just don't go overboard on the negativity. It's enough to point out a lie or inconsistency when you see one, and chime in a bit, but expect to get silenced if you start spouting hate or insults. I'm saying this for your benefit, not theirs.

If you stay on topic, and don't come in just to troll or flame, the thread should survive. If they then kill this thread, even though we were abiding by the rules, then you've proven their stance on the matter. This is how we figured out they plan to kill modding (or at least kill the talk about it).

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awesome

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MrAtomica wrote...

I'm not saying that we have to turn this into a binary comparison. Just don't go overboard on the negativity. It's enough to point out a lie or inconsistency when you see one, and chime in a bit, but expect to get silenced if you start spouting hate or insults. I'm saying this for your benefit, not theirs.

If you stay on topic, and don't come in just to troll or flame, the thread should survive. If they then kill this thread, even though we were abiding by the rules, then you've proven their stance on the matter. This is how we figured out they plan to kill modding (or at least kill the talk about it).




Good advice.

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We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t say any more than that…" - Mike Gamble

This one is pretty much shot to hell. There are only 3 endings, essentially, and none of them are dependent on choice. I have a feeling that this quote will be oft reused once everyone has seen the endings. I would think that the "bespoke ending" is more or less exactly what we have right now. One general outcome, three flavors of pretty lights.

Funny thing, though, the Normandy's fate is the only part of the endings that really irk a lot of us, myself included. I can stomach the relays being gone and the galaxy being set back a long ways, but I wanted to at least stand by my crew till the end.

Instead of just allowing us to choose the options the Guardian gives us, why not add a DLC for a "None of the above" choice? That's the most classically human choice of all. I choose not to choose, I choose to go my own way. Fight the Reapers, ship to ship, shot for shot, until the bitter end. We can win this way, as evidenced by the success of Sword and Hammer. The sacrifices would be massive, but we could finally and completely leave the path forced on us by the Reapers.

Think about it, how is choosing only what we are told to choose (by a Reaper, no less) any significant divergence from the cycle? Some would argue that the destruction of the relays is how we leave the path they wish us to take, but I remain unconvinced. After all, we ultimately do as we are told, regardless of the outcome. If Shepard were to defy the Guardian, would that not be more indepedent? Would that not, once and for all, prove that we are not their puppets?

Andrew Ryan: "A man chooses, a slave obeys."

There are logical fallacies in my idea, so others can chime in and critique it as they wish. Fire away! :wizard:

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MrAtomica wrote...
Instead of just allowing us to choose the options the Guardian gives us, why not add a DLC for a "None of the above" choice? That's the most classically human choice of all. I choose not to choose, I choose to go my own way. Fight the Reapers, ship to ship, shot for shot, until the bitter end. We can win this way, as evidenced by the success of Sword and Hammer. The sacrifices would be massive, but we could finally and completely leave the path forced on us by the Reapers.
Think about it, how is choosing only what we are told to choose (by a Reaper, no less) any significant divergence from the cycle? Some would argue that the destruction of the relays is how we leave the path they wish us to take, but I remain unconvinced. After all, we ultimately do as we are told, regardless of the outcome. If Shepard were to defy the Guardian, would that not be more indepedent? Would that not, once and for all, prove that we are not their puppets?
Andrew Ryan: "A man chooses, a slave obeys."
There are logical fallacies in my idea, so others can chime in and critique it as they wish. Fire away! :wizard:

My respect, I can't say better.

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delamer2 wrote...

MrAtomica wrote...
Instead of just allowing us to choose the options the Guardian gives us, why not add a DLC for a "None of the above" choice? That's the most classically human choice of all. I choose not to choose, I choose to go my own way. Fight the Reapers, ship to ship, shot for shot, until the bitter end. We can win this way, as evidenced by the success of Sword and Hammer. The sacrifices would be massive, but we could finally and completely leave the path forced on us by the Reapers.
Think about it, how is choosing only what we are told to choose (by a Reaper, no less) any significant divergence from the cycle? Some would argue that the destruction of the relays is how we leave the path they wish us to take, but I remain unconvinced. After all, we ultimately do as we are told, regardless of the outcome. If Shepard were to defy the Guardian, would that not be more indepedent? Would that not, once and for all, prove that we are not their puppets?
Andrew Ryan: "A man chooses, a slave obeys."
There are logical fallacies in my idea, so others can chime in and critique it as they wish. Fire away! :wizard:

My respect, I can't say better.


This so much

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Why lock this thread ? they are published statements and if they turn out false they should explain themselves or lose any credibility .

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They could just be trying to do weak damage control, or they simply are annoyed. Either way, it's pretty funny.

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To quote an infinitely better game

"The cannot stop us, they cannot stop the future"

Why keep locking the truth Bioware?

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Hmm which one to add to my sig. So many choices