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I'm actually very suprised that i'm making this thread as I'm actually looking forward to the game very much so. But anyway; whilst I watching a video I noticed a sheer lack of dialogue choices, Shepard seem's to auto-dialogue most stuff, and the rest of it consisted of just two choices at a time mostly. I watched to about Shepards first visit to the Citadel as I didn't want to spoil too much for myself, but this is worrying.

The biggest part of a RPG to me is dialogue options and decision making, I know alot of options have no effect on the game, but that doesn't matter; they effect the experience by creating a different character everytime you play based on the personality you give to the character through even the smallest choices you make.

Anyway I hope this was only due to it being still near the begining of the game and that it picks up after this part. But it's a very linear game so far from what I've seen, and it's pretty worrying. Apart from that everything else I seen looked fantastic and I can't wait to play it.

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The auto dialogue works only if you choose "Action" at the beginning of the game, otherwise you can choose as you always did.

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Shamalayah wrote...

The auto dialogue works only if you choose "Action" at the beginning of the game, otherwise you can choose as you always did.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Ah, my friends. I don't know how to break this to you, but in ME3 Shepard's dialogue consists mainly of the auto variety. He mostly speaks without player input. And when we can choose his dialogue, it is ALWAYS a choice of two dialogue options.

I've seen hours of ME3 gameplay today from those who already have the game. Just be aware of this before you play, otherwise you'll be in for a rude shock

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Another forum poster made statements about there being only two dialogue options and got reamed over it. I've been watching a stream of it for some time and, in two hours, it seems pretty accurate that there are mainly two options to choose from.

Relinquished2 wrote...

Shamalayah wrote...

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auto dialogue works only if you choose "Action" at the beginning of the
game, otherwise you can choose as you always did.

Couldn't have said it better myself.


The stream I'm watching is on RPG mode.

Modifié par Xeranx, 04 mars 2012 - 04:48 .


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KMYash

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Its because Mass Effect is apparently just a shooter now instead of a shooter/rpg blend.

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Shamalayah wrote...

The auto dialogue works only if you choose "Action" at the beginning of the game, otherwise you can choose as you always did.


Now I haven't actually seen proof that there are more options in RPG mode..

I mean as far as I know there isn't a single vid och confirmation that ther eare multiple choice conversations in the game..
And the demo RPG mode also only had two choices..

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Shamalayah wrote...

The auto dialogue works only if you choose "Action" at the beginning of the game, otherwise you can choose as you always did.


I'm certain I saw the player selected ''RPG mode'' at the start.

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KMYash wrote...

Its because Mass Effect is apparently just a shooter now instead of a shooter/rpg blend.


This.
Everyone's correct that action mode picks dialogue choices for you.
However, that's NOT what the OP is asking. He's asking why there aren't many dialogue choices to begin with.
It's because this is where the story gives way to action.

It's the "climactic part," if you want to be optimistic.
And it's the "Bioware sold out to the CoD crowd," if you want to pessimistic/cynical.

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 Because the days of good BioWare are over. 

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There's a thread in the non-spoiler forums

http://social.biowar...ndex/9584253/59

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Funkcase wrote...

I'm actually very suprised that i'm making this thread as I'm actually looking forward to the game very much so. But anyway; whilst I watching a video I noticed a sheer lack of dialogue choices, Shepard seem's to auto-dialogue most stuff, and the rest of it consisted of just two choices at a time mostly. I watched to about Shepards first visit to the Citadel as I didn't want to spoil too much for myself, but this is worrying.

The biggest part of a RPG to me is dialogue options and decision making, I know alot of options have no effect on the game, but that doesn't matter; they effect the experience by creating a different character everytime you play based on the personality you give to the character through even the smallest choices you make.

Anyway I hope this was only due to it being still near the begining of the game and that it picks up after this part. But it's a very linear game so far from what I've seen, and it's pretty worrying. Apart from that everything else I seen looked fantastic and I can't wait to play it.


Let me put this to bed right now having played the game all the way through already.  There is just as much dialouge options in ME3 as in ME2.  The videos are videos and are cut like any other video.  You can still spend 10 minutes talking to one person.

What is different in this game is that you have the CHOICE to have dialouge automated for you and have a more third person shooter experience.  Before you start, you are given three choices: Roleplaying, Action and Story.  Choose RP and you'll have your typical ME experience.  Any questions, let me know.

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so story mode is the best for choices?

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BettyBlueGT wrote...

so story mode is the best for choices?


No.
Story mode gives the same choices as RPG mode, but it makes the action incredibly easy. Think playing ME2 on the lowest difficulty.

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BettyBlueGT wrote...

so story mode is the best for choices?


No, Roleplaying is.

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Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Ah, my friends. I don't know how to break this to you, but in ME3 Shepard's dialogue consists mainly of the auto variety. He mostly speaks without player input. And when we can choose his dialogue, it is ALWAYS a choice of two dialogue options.

I've seen hours of ME3 gameplay today from those who already have the game. Just be aware of this before you play, otherwise you'll be in for a rude shock


sadly this is acurate, <_ the amount in auto dialoge is disturbing, everything we saw so far tells us that BW has dumb down this series, with no real impact in choices we make, or have made in last 2 games, but hey, now new kids can jump in ALL OUT GALACTIC WARFARE, because you know "it's a great place to jump in ME universe" :huh:dear God I hate that line

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Nathan Redgrave

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Could you PM me the video in question? It's hard to offer an intelligent perspective if I'm not sure about the context.

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Because Bioware hates their fans.

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Someone threw a smoke grenade in Biowares building and changed everything to Action mode. (I wish)

Modifié par BatmanPWNS, 04 mars 2012 - 07:05 .


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Nathan Redgrave

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BettyBlueGT wrote...

so story mode is the best for choices?


No. Story mode is just RPG mode with the combat difficulty at minimum and the level-up mode set to auto. RPG and Story modes will both have equal amounts of dialogue and morality choices.

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BettyBlueGT wrote...

so story mode is the best for choices?


what choices??? whatever you do, at the end of game you only have to PUSH THE BUTTON, and listen to some dumb kid who who is telling you that whatever color do you choose you will get scr...d:huh:

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Husher315 wrote...

Let me put this to bed right now having played the game all the way through already.  There is just as much dialouge options in ME3 as in ME2.  The videos are videos and are cut like any other video.  You can still spend 10 minutes talking to one person.

What is different in this game is that you have the CHOICE to have dialouge automated for you and have a more third person shooter experience.  Before you start, you are given three choices: Roleplaying, Action and Story.  Choose RP and you'll have your typical ME experience.  Any questions, let me know.


Question, has it been stated/guaranteed by the devs that there is just as much dialogue? Honest question because I haven't seen anything like that but I HAVE seen the dev quote that 'Mass Effect is not an rpg, its a shooter'. It just seems like some of the rpg options have been slimmed down from what I've heard. 

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KMYash wrote...


Question, has it been stated/guaranteed by the devs that there is just as much dialogue? Honest question because I haven't seen anything like that but I HAVE seen the dev quote that 'Mass Effect is not an rpg, its a shooter'. It just seems like some of the rpg options have been slimmed down from what I've heard. 


There is more dialogue, that's been stated a few times by devs.
However, dialogue =/= choice in dialogue, unfortunately.

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Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Could you PM me the video in question? It's hard to offer an intelligent perspective if I'm not sure about the context.


here you go, watch carefuly, and try to ignore that conversation of those 2 id...s playing


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SilencedScream wrote...

KMYash wrote...


Question, has it been stated/guaranteed by the devs that there is just as much dialogue? Honest question because I haven't seen anything like that but I HAVE seen the dev quote that 'Mass Effect is not an rpg, its a shooter'. It just seems like some of the rpg options have been slimmed down from what I've heard. 


There is more dialogue, that's been stated a few times by devs.
However, dialogue =/= choice in dialogue, unfortunately.


As in this case it seems to mean 'autodialogue'. :sick: