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the original poster needs a BAN. why the fck do you want to know if the ending is bad yet ffs

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Just looking at the sky over London, and Vancouver/Seattle in the trailer, and assuming that this is the way the Reapers are going to "blacken the skies of every world", defeating them and surviving is going to be something that hasn't been done before. Ever. Think about that. You didn't end up as reaper goo, or a husk.

Why should you have control over who makes it and who doesn't? Do you really want that responsibility? Sorry Kaiden, you have to buy the farm so that Liara lives, or sorry Tali, you wear a suit, you're not the fittest. Cya. There is no best ending in this case. The best ending is that the reapers don't win.

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As long as they don't kill my Shepards LI with one sentence in the epilogue, like they did with Viconia in BG2, I'm happy.

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TobiTobsen wrote...

As long as they don't kill my Shepards LI with one sentence in the epilogue, like they did with Viconia in BG2, I'm happy.


Yep -- whatever Bio does with ME3, everyone should remember that it can't be as bad as what they've done in the past.

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If you thought your choices in the first two games mattered, then yes it's pretty bad. Your decisions have been marginalized. Getting railroaded into the same 3 or 4 endings kinda sucks.


After the Conrad Verner mishap and how many ME1 decisions were wrapped up in ME2 via emails, I didn't expect my decisions to have much of an impact on ME3.  I guess I'll be less disappointed in ME3 than others, if only because my expectations were lowered after playing ME2.

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Julia343 wrote...

Just looking at the sky over London, and Vancouver/Seattle in the trailer, and assuming that this is the way the Reapers are going to "blacken the skies of every world", defeating them and surviving is going to be something that hasn't been done before. Ever. Think about that. You didn't end up as reaper goo, or a husk.

Why should you have control over who makes it and who doesn't? Do you really want that responsibility? Sorry Kaiden, you have to buy the farm so that Liara lives, or sorry Tali, you wear a suit, you're not the fittest. Cya. There is no best ending in this case. The best ending is that the reapers don't win.


To say the truth i dont really care if the reapers win or lose; if i had to choose i'd save my azz and the ones of my crew... ***k everyone else :ph34r:

Modifié par Sentr0, 04 mars 2012 - 10:26 .


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Really the ending in most games is somewhat of a let down. It's not the ending we play for, it's the journey. And when in real life are all questions answered and dealt with? Very few, at least in my case.

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I don't care who lives or dies so long as....

1. The Reapers are defeated. While I'd love an ending (or endings) where the Reapers win, there should be some endings where they are also destroyed.

2. The galaxy isn't so completely boned that the existing civilizations are extinct or headed towards it.

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No, it isn't.

The people who are saying that it's terrible are the ones who were expecting too much. If you think about it, the endings make sense. There are A LOT of reapers, and people are expecting the endings to be happy? That's a stupid thing to do. You can't fight the reapers and have everything go back to the way things were before the war; that's asking too much. Would a happy(ier) ending be good? Sure, but it wouldn't make much sense.

Personally, I think the game will be down right amazing, and the endings sound incredible. So, in other words, play it for yourself, and don't listen to the whiners that are complaining about the endings. Most of them haven't even played the full game.

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A few things to consider about Mass Effect 3 and the so called spoilers floating around. This my opinion on the matter.

1. The game is not out yet and the lucky few whom have played through enjoyed the endings.
2. The reapers are Bu** ****ing the galaxy, people are gonna die. How can their be a happy ending when this **it is happening? Whats more important, Shepard interests or those of the galaxy? Shepard's happiness or those of the galaxy?

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Dopeslap wrote...

A few things to consider about Mass Effect 3 and the so called spoilers floating around. This my opinion on the matter.

1. The game is not out yet and the lucky few whom have played through enjoyed the endings.
2. The reapers are Bu** ****ing the galaxy, people are gonna die. How can their be a happy ending when this **it is happening? Whats more important, Shepard interests or those of the galaxy? Shepard's happiness or those of the galaxy?


I agree with your points.

Though all the doom and gloom and 'end is nigh' posts have me worried that there is no ending where Shepard triumphs and completely defeats the Reapers. If he or some squad mates (or all of them) die along the way, I'm cool with it so long as there is a clear 'win' at the end.

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[quote]SU37 wrote...

No, it isn't.

The people who are saying that it's terrible are the ones who were expecting too much. If you think about it, the endings make sense. There are A LOT of reapers, and people are expecting the endings to be happy? That's a stupid thing to do. You can't fight the reapers and have everything go back to the way things were before the war; that's asking  too much. Would a happy(ier) ending be good? Sure, but it wouldn't make much sense.[/quote]

Yeah, it's probably realistic; you, however, are completely missing the point: You want my money, and I want entertainment; I don't want characters I've grown emotionally attached to being ****ed at 360 degree...


[quoted AlexMBrennan]

Modifié par Sentr0, 04 mars 2012 - 10:52 .


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I'm hoping for at least one "Day of Lavos" type ending, where you mess up and it shows the Reapers destroy everything.

Modifié par cipher86, 04 mars 2012 - 10:52 .


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Dopeslap wrote...

A few things to consider about Mass Effect 3 and the so called spoilers floating around. This my opinion on the matter.

1. The game is not out yet and the lucky few whom have played through enjoyed the endings.
2. The reapers are Bu** ****ing the galaxy, people are gonna die. How can their be a happy ending when this **it is happening? Whats more important, Shepard interests or those of the galaxy? Shepard's happiness or those of the galaxy?

Shepard's interests, I'm afraid. (S)He's the one you've spent time (and money) with. And I don't think that anyone is asking for a "Reapers defeated, no-one else even has a bruised thumb" ending. This is a game, not reality. I don't think that it's unreasonable to expect some personal reward for the characters you care about.

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Imperium Alpha wrote...

If you like Deus Ex and such I don't see why you would not like ME3 ending.


Now THATS sounds promising!

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Julia343 wrote...

Just looking at the sky over London, and Vancouver/Seattle in the trailer, and assuming that this is the way the Reapers are going to "blacken the skies of every world", defeating them and surviving is going to be something that hasn't been done before. Ever. Think about that. You didn't end up as reaper goo, or a husk.

Why should you have control over who makes it and who doesn't? Do you really want that responsibility? Sorry Kaiden, you have to buy the farm so that Liara lives, or sorry Tali, you wear a suit, you're not the fittest. Cya. There is no best ending in this case. The best ending is that the reapers don't win.


Given they said that the reapers can't win, when they say can get best possible ending in single player you expect it to be a lot better than just reapers don't win even if the galaxy is left in ruins. Now they said is six endings and I have avoided the spoiler threads to avoid knowing what they are but it doesn't look good from how many people are annoyed about it and makes it a concern. Will find out for myself when get the game. I am more annoyed about lack of vehicles in game, lack of player input in conversations (being extreme automated conversations with their shepard and two fingers up to our shepards). Many more issues too but smaller ones from hacking issue, lack of exposition at start of the game etc. Overall my excitment for the game is bordering on non-existant right now. I just hope I am wrong.

:crying:

P.s. I loved DE:HR overall but the ending was not good and probably least favorite part of the game.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 04 mars 2012 - 11:01 .


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Reorte wrote...
Shepard's interests, I'm afraid. (S)He's the one you've spent time (and money) with. And I don't think that anyone is asking for a "Reapers defeated, no-one else even has a bruised thumb" ending. This is a game, not reality. I don't think that it's unreasonable to expect some personal reward for the characters you care about.


Tidus "died" at the end of FFX, and I was pretty satisfied with it.  It all depends on how it plays out.  Remember, Shepard won't be back for any other ME titles.  If the end of the Reapers means the end of Shepard, so be it.  As long as it's well executed.

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Sentr0 wrote...

Yeah, it's probably realistic; you, however, are completely missing the point: You want my money, and I want entertainment; I don't want characters I've grown emotionally attached to being ****ed at 360 degree...

So enjoy the time you have left with them.

Is it sad that some may die? Of course it is. Even when I was purposely killing off people in specific ME2 playthroughs, it was still hard, even if I didn't like them that much.

Modifié par SU37, 04 mars 2012 - 10:56 .


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xsdob wrote...

Everyone complaining that their choices don't matter really isn't thinking in the right terms. The choices made affect the galaxy as a whole, not just shepard personally. The choices afffect who lives and dies in three, what views and opinions a character has adopted of others and of shepard, which civilizations will rise and which will fall into ruin.

Your choices do matter, they affect everything leading up into the ending, all the steps, all the victories, all the loses, everything that shapes shepard's character and the choice he will make at the end. People may be mad that their choices don't effect the endings, but they have rarely effected the endings of the other 2 games anyway.

Sparing the Rachni doesn't help stop saren, keeping feros alive doesn't hinder the collectors, it's all the choices that affect how the war turns out, and how much lose their will be. In ME1 you could save or kill the council, this effects some of 2 and a majority of three. In ME2 you could destroy the base or save it, it effects 3 in ways we don't know of yet. In ME3 your choices will be similar to 1 and 2, but it isn't about affecting the ending but affect the journey that matters, seeing it all play out before the final decision is made.


However, at the end of it all is the very perfect time to let all those choices affect what happens at the end. And they don't apparently. It's all well and good to say they have an impact in the galaxy as a whole leading up to the end, but since this is the end and there won't be anymore games, this is the ONE and ONLY place where BioWare's writers had the perfect freedom to make a plethora of endings to fit every taste like they did with DA:O to a large degree. But ... NO.

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I can't really tell you without spoiling it, but there is absolutely no good ending. No one is going to be happy ever after in the ending. Not just shepard and his LI, but no one in the known ME universe.




Damn, that is amazing. I can't believe Bioware actually pulled a good ending for once. Guess I'll have to see it in context.


What troubles me however, if the serious ammount of people who seriously think a happy ending would be a good ending, I mean really? go back to star wars.

Modifié par Heavy01, 04 mars 2012 - 11:02 .


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Reorte wrote...
Shepard's interests, I'm afraid. (S)He's the one you've spent time (and money) with. And I don't think that anyone is asking for a "Reapers defeated, no-one else even has a bruised thumb" ending. This is a game, not reality. I don't think that it's unreasonable to expect some personal reward for the characters you care about.


Tidus "died" at the end of FFX, and I was pretty satisfied with it.  It all depends on how it plays out.  Remember, Shepard won't be back for any other ME titles.  If the end of the Reapers means the end of Shepard, so be it.  As long as it's well executed.

Never played FFX so can't comment there. The end of Shepard's story might simply mean that he doesn't end up involved in anything big after this. I've more to say on this but I'm not sure if I can without treading too much into spoiler territory. Even speaking in generalities it'll probably be obvious why I'm saying them.

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cipher86 wrote...

Reorte wrote...
Shepard's interests, I'm afraid. (S)He's the one you've spent time (and money) with. And I don't think that anyone is asking for a "Reapers defeated, no-one else even has a bruised thumb" ending. This is a game, not reality. I don't think that it's unreasonable to expect some personal reward for the characters you care about.


Tidus "died" at the end of FFX, and I was pretty satisfied with it.  It all depends on how it plays out.  Remember, Shepard won't be back for any other ME titles.  If the end of the Reapers means the end of Shepard, so be it.  As long as it's well executed.


He didn't die really, since he never was 'alive' in the first place during the game. 

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Dopeslap wrote...

A few things to consider about Mass Effect 3 and the so called spoilers floating around. This my opinion on the matter.

1. The game is not out yet and the lucky few whom have played through enjoyed the endings.
2. The reapers are Bu** ****ing the galaxy, people are gonna die. How can their be a happy ending when this **it is happening? Whats more important, Shepard interests or those of the galaxy? Shepard's happiness or those of the galaxy?


The thing is that people have not spent all their time and money getting emotionally attached to the galaxy. BioWare has done its level best (like any good author does) in creating emotional investment in the games' protagonist and main characters. In order to make an ending satisfying, you need to also satisfy the needs of the player where the characters are concerned. And let's be fair, the galaxy is the setting and not a character. These endings don't satisfy where the characters are concerned and not because of the lack of "Disney" ending. I'd go further into detail as to why, but this isn't a spoiler forum.

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The thing is that people have not spent all their time and money getting emotionally attached to the galaxy. BioWare has done its level best (like any good author does) in creating emotional investment in the games' protagonist and main characters. In order to make an ending satisfying, you need to also satisfy the needs of the player where the characters are concerned. And let's be fair, the galaxy is the setting and not a character. These endings don't satisfy where the characters are concerned and not because of the lack of "Disney" ending. I'd go further into detail as to why, but this isn't a spoiler forum.

Yep, that's the problem I have with it. IMO the endings wouldn't be anywhere near as bad if the entire game was somehow free from the characters of the previous two (of course then it would be a big disaster in other ways).

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Heavy01 wrote...

Foxhound2020 wrote...


I can't really tell you without spoiling it, but there is absolutely no good ending. No one is going to be happy ever after in the ending. Not just shepard and his LI, but no one in the known ME universe.




Damn, that is amazing. I can't believe Bioware actually pulled a good ending for once. Guess I'll have to see it in context.


What troubles me however, if the serious ammount of people who seriously think a happy ending would be a good ending, I mean really? go back to star wars.

   



Star Wars ended in a heroic way . Mass Effect 3 ends in some of the dumbest bull sh** I have ever seen and heard of