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[AKofC]

Sentr0 wrote...

AKofC wrote...

Another thing that's annoying is all that
stuff they were going on about back when the first game was in
development about choices in the game having major effects in the 3rd
game have just been ejected into space.

I mean, when I saw how
pathetic the whole choice and consequence thing worked from ME1 to ME2, I
was like... well hopefully they'll fix this in the third game. But nope

At least in ME2 your choices/actions decided who lives or die, nothing was forced. You could have even saved the normandy crew with a perfect timing on last mission

No, I meant choices in 1 carrying over to 2. All you got was some dude standing there going "Oh hey Shepard you awesome guy / bastard, remember when you did something good for me / did something bad for me? Yeah here have some credits / cheg on you ama****!"

Or an email. It was pretty much just that. And then there's stuff about promising to provide the result of your choice in the third game, but then it turns out that the choices you made in the first game don't matter in 3 because they are ignored for convenience, or the consequence is essentially the same regardless if you chose to spare or not spare certain people etc.

[Chrumpek]

Got spoiled by this forum after clicking some 'new' traielr which had uadio from ending probably.

Yep first 10 secs and it's THAT bad ;/

[Julia343]

I went over there and had a look and I'm left wondering after reading all the whining if they've been playing the same story I have. NOTE: There in all likelihood will be DLC for ME3 in the future.

It could be worse:

[AKofC]

Another thing that's been bugging me is that why do the Reapers in the gameplay vids all look like Sovereign? Like weren't they all supposed to take the form of whatever species they were ascended from? I mean at the end of ME2, you could see that they were pretty unique from one another in the fleet.

[Duncaaaaaan]

best_eva wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Yeah the ending is incredibly bad. Really, really bad.

yeah all the usual suspects screaming about how horrific everything is, funny thing is though everyone who has actually played the game in its entirety seems to really like the game and have already done multiple playthroughs. 

It didn't perhaps occur to your sipleton mind that I was maybe being sarcastic.

It's like I can't make intelligent jokes/jipes here, it just passes over heads.

Can't wait for your rebuttal of "it wasn't intelligent".

[AKofC]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

best_eva wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

Yeah the ending is incredibly bad. Really, really bad.

yeah all the usual suspects screaming about how horrific everything is, funny thing is though everyone who has actually played the game in its entirety seems to really like the game and have already done multiple playthroughs. 

It didn't perhaps occur to your sipleton mind that I was maybe being sarcastic.

It's like I can't make intelligent jokes/jipes here, it just passes over heads.

Can't wait for your rebuttal of "it wasn't intelligent".

How were you being sarcastic? All I saw there was you stating how it was really really bad.

But if you were being sarcastic, good job because I couldn't actually tell that you were. Note: I'm being sarcastic

:happy:

[Sarah_SR2]

As long as Shepard and the crew defeat the reapers and bring peacetime back to the galaxy then that's a happy ending for me. As for how our heroes fare, well I'm not going to speculate. Yes I've heard the spoilers and if they're true then I applaud it and congratulate BioWare for being brave enough to do it. Shepard is a "mission comes first" person who will make whatever sacrifice is needed to stop the Reaper threat and save the lives of the vulnerable and innocent. The needs of the many out way the needs of the few, or the one.

[Soverign 666]

Wasnt everyone complaining they wanted mass effect to be darker like a year ago? You guys are truly unpleasable.

[AKofC]

Darker is a lot different than dumber though.

[Dannybare]

Can't really say without any context.

[Femlob]

Is it really that bad?

The spoilers group is a melting pot of people with wildly differing opinions: Paragons, Renegades, Paragades, Renegons, Neutrals, pro-Cerberus, anti-Cerberus, pro-BioWare, anti-BioWare - you name it, they're present. Regardless of their differences, all of them are united in their disgust over the endings.

That should really tell you all you need to know.

Modifié par Femlob, 04 mars 2012 - 07:05 .

[xsdob]

Foxhound2020 wrote...

Put it this way OP: Bioware admitted in a interview that some customers are going to be angry about the ending, so take that as you will.

My only question would be, why make your customers angry?

Since when have bioware customers been 100% not angry? I grew up in the 90's and i can safely say not in my lifetime.

[vertibird1]

Is every single ending depressing? or is there an ending thats simaler to ME1 or ME2??

[Hunter of Legends]

vertibird1 wrote...

Is every single ending depressing? or is there an ending thats simaler to ME1 or ME2??

ME1 and 2 weren't really "happy" endings.

[AlphaJarmel]

Femlob wrote...

Is it really that bad?

The spoilers group is a melting pot of people with wildly differing opinions: Paragons, Renegades, Paragades, Renegons, Neutrals, pro-Cerberus, anti-Cerberus, pro-BioWare, anti-BioWare - you name it, they're present. Regardless of their differences, all of them are united in their disgust over the endings.

That should really tell you all you need to know.

I think it's past disgust now.  Now it's just comedic in how bad it is.

[Travie]

Femlob wrote...

Is it really that bad?

The spoilers group is a melting pot of people with wildly differing opinions: Paragons, Renegades, Paragades, Renegons, Neutrals, pro-Cerberus, anti-Cerberus, pro-BioWare, anti-BioWare - you name it, they're present. Regardless of their differences, all of them are united in their disgust over the endings.

That should really tell you all you need to know.

This says it all I think.

[Travie]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

vertibird1 wrote...

Is every single ending depressing? or is there an ending thats simaler to ME1 or ME2??

ME1 and 2 weren't really "happy" endings.

ME1 definitely was good (how could your main character emerging from the rubble after everyone thought he was dead not be good?), and ME2 could be if you did all the loyalty missions and made good decisions in the endgame.

ME3 is just.... sigh.

[WizenSlinky0]

*sigh* People who like the endings aren't looking for linear movies and people who don't aren't all looking for Disney endings. I really hate such generalizations.

It really comes down to satisfaction. Some people are simply unsatisfied with the endings due to the arbitrary and forced nature of parts of it along with the lack of input from your choices up till that point.

You'll either like them or hate them but there are perfectly rational and civil people discussing them at length in the spoiler group. These aren't "whiners" or "haters" but people with legitimate problems. Don't confuse them.

[AK47 Total WAR]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

If you like Deus Ex and such I don't see why you would not like ME3 ending.

The endings of Deus Ex worked for that game because they worked with the setting, which was a dark, depressing, dystopian future.

Mass Effect is a space opera.

[Sentr0]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

vertibird1 wrote...

Is every single ending depressing? or is there an ending thats simaler to ME1 or ME2??

ME1 and 2 weren't really "happy" endings.

Not sure what you mean with "happy", but ME1 and ME2 were awesome epic endings for me... couldnt have asked for better

[CerberusSoldier]

I see Bioware has its Bio droids out in force . The ending is bull sh and it has no logic behind it

[Marta Rio]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Is it really that bad?

The spoilers group is a melting pot of people with wildly differing opinions: Paragons, Renegades, Paragades, Renegons, Neutrals, pro-Cerberus, anti-Cerberus, pro-BioWare, anti-BioWare - you name it, they're present. Regardless of their differences, all of them are united in their disgust over the endings.

That should really tell you all you need to know.

I think it's past disgust now.  Now it's just comedic in how bad it is.

I think the spoiler group has moved on to the 6th stage of the Kubler-Ross grief model: mocking and memes.

Come join us as we await the apocalypse! 

[Reorte]

Sentr0 wrote...
Not sure what you mean with "happy", but ME1 and ME2 were awesome epic endings for me... couldnt have asked for better

ME1's was Damn Big Hero ending. ME2's was more downbeat, and varied from feeling moderately relieved and can now get on with things to successful but depressing depending upon how you played it (that's all good). One point about what I've given up and spoiled myself on just sounds depressing no matter what. I've not yet read enough to know if it leaves the door open.

[xsdob]

Everyone complaining that their choices don't matter really isn't thinking in the right terms. The choices made affect the galaxy as a whole, not just shepard personally. The choices afffect who lives and dies in three, what views and opinions a character has adopted of others and of shepard, which civilizations will rise and which will fall into ruin.

Your choices do matter, they affect everything leading up into the ending, all the steps, all the victories, all the loses, everything that shapes shepard's character and the choice he will make at the end. People may be mad that their choices don't effect the endings, but they have rarely effected the endings of the other 2 games anyway.

Sparing the Rachni doesn't help stop saren, keeping feros alive doesn't hinder the collectors, it's all the choices that affect how the war turns out, and how much lose their will be. In ME1 you could save or kill the council, this effects some of 2 and a majority of three. In ME2 you could destroy the base or save it, it effects 3 in ways we don't know of yet. In ME3 your choices will be similar to 1 and 2, but it isn't about affecting the ending but affect the journey that matters, seeing it all play out before the final decision is made.